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Old 03-19-2017, 12:39 AM
 
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infidel=kafer

What man does not believe in Muhammad and his message is an infidel=kafer

It is not special in Kfar Mecca and the Arabs
But it is a general term that includes all human

Because the standard distinction between the believer and the infidel(al-kafer)

It is faith in God and His Prophet Muhammad
It does not believe in the two is an infidel(kafer)
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Old 03-19-2017, 10:54 AM
 
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mahasn sawresho,

The word "kafir" is used for someone who is not a believer in God and attacks Islam and Muslims. Christians and Jews cannot be called kuffar unless they actually attack Islam and Muslims whether verbally or physically.

According to the Qur'aan, Christians and Jews are not kuffar unless they try to attack Islam and Muslims.

The verse 9:29 is about the people mentioned in the following verse:

[9.32] They desire to put out the light of Allah with their mouths, and Allah will not consent save to perfect His light, though the unbelievers are averse.

Once one uses his mouth to put out the light (the message of the Qur'aan in which is the light), he become a kafir. Does it remind you of anyone in this forum?
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Old 03-20-2017, 10:43 PM
 
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Do you teach me Arabic
Are you a new jurist?
I am a disbeliever
Because the Quranic verse says
They disbelieve those who say that God is the third of three

I am an unbeliever and according to Islamic law

When the power to the Muslims will say that this word must be applied
But now Muslims do not have the power to impose these teachings
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Old 03-21-2017, 12:57 AM
 
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Do you teach me Arabic
Are you a new jurist?
No. You claim to understand Arabic but then insist "katlo" is "jihad".

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I am a disbeliever
Because the Quranic verse says
They disbelieve those who say that God is the third of three
Do you say that God is the third of the three?

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I am an unbeliever and according to Islamic law
Are you disbeliever or unbeliever?

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When the power to the Muslims will say that this word must be applied
But now Muslims do not have the power to impose these teachings
God is One God even according to Isa ibne Mariam the same as the Islamic teachings. Why do you then disbelieve in his teachings and want to put out the light that has been sent to us through the Qur'aan (in Arabic)?

If you do not believe in Islamic teachings, what are you doing here in this forum; trying to bash Islam? Don't you understand that bashing Islam is against the rules of this forum?
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Old 03-21-2017, 11:12 PM
 
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No. You claim to understand Arabic but then insist "katlo" is "jihad".

Do you say that God is the third of the three?

Are you disbeliever or unbeliever?

God is One God even according to Isa ibne Mariam the same as the Islamic teachings. Why do you then disbelieve in his teachings and want to put out the light that has been sent to us through the Qur'aan (in Arabic)?

If you do not believe in Islamic teachings, what are you doing here in this forum; trying to bash Islam? Don't you understand that bashing Islam is against the rules of this forum?
Hey Khalifa
I say to you, I do not believe in Islam
I am here for useful dialogue
I think you should be happy to be with you in this dialogue
Are you afraid of the truth?
I think the truth can not be obscured by the sieve
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Old 03-21-2017, 11:14 PM
 
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If you worship God
So why go and kiss the black stone
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Old 03-22-2017, 04:58 AM
 
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Hey Khalifa
I say to you, I do not believe in Islam
Then don't even try to teach Islam to me. It's obvious that you are here to bash Islam.

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I am here for useful dialogue
One-sided dialogue? You need to go and learn English first so that you may dialogue properly.
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I think you should be happy to be with you in this dialogue
LOL! Should I be happy to dialogue with myself?

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Are you afraid of the truth?
I think the truth can not be obscured by the sieve
Exactly my point!

[3.71] O followers of the Book! Why do you confound the truth with the falsehood and hide the truth while you know?

[17.81] And say: The truth has come and the falsehood has vanished; surely falsehood is a vanishing
(thing).

[21.18] Nay! We cast the truth against the falsehood, so that it breaks its head, and lo! it vanishes; and woe to you for what you describe.
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Old 03-22-2017, 05:08 AM
 
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If you worship God
So why go and kiss the black stone
This is another of your silly questions!

Only a thick person would regard kissing to be worshiping God.

FYI, I have never kissed the black stone but have kissed my wife. Do you have a wife? If yes, why do you kiss her if you worship God? Do you have children? Haven't you ever kissed them? Why if you worship God?

Why do we have to have such silly questions as "dialogues"?

If you want proper dialogues here, you must be honest and not have hate against Muslims and Islam. Otherwise, you are wasting your and our time here.
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Old 03-26-2017, 11:51 PM
 
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This is another of your silly questions!

Only a thick person would regard kissing to be worshiping God.

FYI, I have never kissed the black stone but have kissed my wife. Do you have a wife? If yes, why do you kiss her if you worship God? Do you have children? Haven't you ever kissed them? Why if you worship God?

Why do we have to have such silly questions as "dialogues"?

If you want proper dialogues here, you must be honest and not have hate against Muslims and Islam. Otherwise, you are wasting your and our time here.
My wife is a human being
She has the spirit
But the black stone has no spirit
This is the difference between my wife and the black stone
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Old 03-27-2017, 12:25 AM
 
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My wife is a human being
She has the spirit
But the black stone has no spirit
This is the difference between my wife and the black stone
O.M.G. And you call it "dialogue"!

How do you know that the black stone has no spirit when you do not even know what spirit is?
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