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Old 11-02-2016, 10:51 PM
 
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Islam came to equate all believers and the prophet says, "Muslim brother." He also says "there is no difference between an Arab nor a non-Arab nor white nor black but piety"

Prophet, peace be upon him ordered that a slave must wear like his master and eat like what he eats. This is not an option for a Muslim ,but it must be. So if you saw them eating will not know either Master and whichever slave.

We judge the time of the Prophet, peace be upon him, the logic of our time now, it's not fair, that Islam came and entrenched slavery existed in all societies, and slavery has been until recently.

Islam narrows the source of slavery, and expanded in the emancipation process by freeing slaves in the case of murder by mistake, the alliance with God by mistake, etc.

١١ فَلَا ٱقْتَحَمَ ٱلْعَقَبَةَ11 But he did not brave the ascent.
١٢ وَمَآ أَدْرَىٰكَ مَا ٱلْعَقَبَةُ
12 And what will explain to you what the ascent is?

١٣ فَكُّ رَقَبَةٍ
13 The freeing of a slave.

١٤ أَوْ إِطْعَٰمٌ فِى يَوْمٍ ذِى مَسْغَبَةٍ
14 Or the feeding on a day of hunger.

١٥ يَتِيمًا ذَا مَقْرَبَةٍ
15 An orphan near of kin.

١٦ أَوْ مِسْكِينًا ذَا مَتْرَبَةٍ
16 Or a destitute in the dust.

Surah Al Balad
Slaves and slaves of the most important pillars of Islam
Because the next verse proves that the slaves of the Muslim community components
And proprietary وما ملكت ايمانكم

Verse says
The man combines four women
And also has the right to have sex with slaves
If that Islam rejected slavery, it was supposed that we do not find this text in the Koran
But the verse is very clear
In other words, slaves from the elements and components of the Muslim community
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Old 11-04-2016, 09:27 AM
 
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Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to those who disbelieve. - 9:3 (Picktall)
Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. - 9:5 (Picktall)


Err...
Normally the contradictions in religious ideologies are spread further apart in the "sacred" texts, they only appear where the people who made them up forgot what they previously wrote. This one is juxtaposed right there. Wonderful.


Certainly this ideology is going to have a different outcome on the world than one that says never kill.
The Jewish and Christian Scriptures do not say Do not Kill--They say do not Murder. Both faiths agree that Killing is permitted in self defense or as punishment for a crime. All 4 Abrahamic faiths agree that Murder is forbidden.

Apparently you do not understand that 9:1 through 9:12 were revealed as part of a single discourse (9:1-37) relating to a specific event involving a specific people and has a 3 fold purpose.

Purpose 1 was to give notice that the Mushikrun had violated the treaty and the treaty was no longer valid.

Purpose 2 was to give the Mushikrun fair warning that they were no longer allowed into Mecca and were given a full year (It takes a full year for the passage of the 4 Sacred Months) to clear up their affairs. Those that agreed to adhere to the treaty, could remain in in Mecca if the able bodied adult males paid the Jizya tax. After a year any Mushikrun found in Mecca and did comply would be considered to be committing an act of war and treated as such.

Purpose 3 was to serve as a reminder to all Muslims that all treaties are to be honored.

9:1 thru 12 reads as such:

Read it in context of the above and not as commandments to kill non-Muslims

Freedom from obligation (is proclaimed) from Allah and His messenger toward those of the idolaters with whom ye made a treaty: - 9:1 (Picktall)

Travel freely in the land four months, and know that ye cannot escape Allah and that Allah will confound the disbelievers (in His guidance). - 9:2 (Picktall)

And a proclamation from Allah and His messenger to all men on the day of the Greater Pilgrimage that Allah is free from obligation to the idolaters, and (so is) His messenger. So, if ye repent, it will be better for you; but if ye are averse, then know that ye cannot escape Allah. Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to those who disbelieve. - 9:3 (Picktall)

Excepting those of the idolaters with whom ye (Muslims) have a treaty, and who have since abated nothing of your right nor have supported anyone against you. (As for these), fulfill their treaty to them till their term. Lo! Allah loveth those who keep their duty (unto Him). - 9:4 (Picktall)

Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. - 9:5 (Picktall)

And if anyone of the idolaters seeketh thy protection (O Muhammad), then protect him so that he may hear the word of Allah; and afterward convey him to his place of safety. That is because they are a folk who know not. - 9:6 (Picktall)

How can there be a treaty with Allah and with His messenger for the idolaters save those with whom ye made a treaty at the Inviolable Place of Worship? So long as they are true to you, be true to them. Lo! Allah loveth those who keep their duty. - 9:7 (Picktall)


How (can there be any treaty for the others) when, if they have the upper hand of you, they regard not pact nor honor in respect of you? They satisfy you with their mouths the while their hearts refuse. And most of them are wrong doers. - 9:8 (Picktall)

They have purchased with the revelations of Allah a little gain, so they debar (men) from His way. Lo! evil is that which they are wont to do. - 9:9 (Picktall)



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This Surah comprises three discourses:-

The first discourse (vv. 1-37), was revealed in Zil-Qa'adah A.H. 9 or thereabout. As the importance of the subject of the discourse required its declaration on the occasion of Haj the Holy Prophet dispatched Hadrat Ali to follow Hadrat Abu Bakr, who had already left for Makkah as leader of the Pilgrims to the Ka'abah. He instructed Hadrat Ali to deliver the discourse before the representatives of the different clans of Arabia so as to inform them of the new policy towards the mushriks.

The second discourse (vv., 38-72) was sent down in Rajab A.H. 9 or a little before this, when the Holy Prophet was engaged in making preparations for the Campaign, of Tabuk. In this discourse, the Believers were urged to take active part in Jihad, and the shirkers were severely rebuked for holding back their wealth and for hesitation to sacrifice their lives in the way of Allah because of their hypocrisy, weak faith or negligence.

The third discourse (vv. 73-129) was revealed on his return from the Campaign of Tabuk. There are some pieces in this discourse that were sent down on different occasions during the same period and were afterwards consolidated by the Holy Prophet into the Surah in accordance with inspiration from Allah. But this caused no interruption in its continuity because they dealt with the same subject and formed part of the same series of events. This discourse warns the hypocrites of their evil deeds and rebukes those Believers who had stayed behind in the Campaign of Tabuk. Then after taking them to task, Allah pardons those true Believers who had not taken part in the Jihad in the Way of Allah for one reason or the other.

Chronologically, the first discourse should have come last; but being the most important of the three in regard to its subject matter, it was placed first in the order of compilation.

9. Surah At Taubah (The Repentance) - Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi - Tafhim al-Qur'an - The Meaning of the Qur'an
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Old 11-04-2016, 11:20 AM
 
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Purpose 1 was to give notice that the Mushikrun had violated the treaty and the treaty was no longer valid.
Huh? That's not what I read. What it says is this:

Sahih International
[This is a declaration of] disassociation, from Allah and His Messenger, to those with whom you had made a treaty among the polytheists.
Muhsin Khan
Freedom from (all) obligations (is declared) from Allah and His Messenger (SAW) to those of the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah), with whom you made a treaty.
Pickthall
Freedom from obligation (is proclaimed) from Allah and His messenger toward those of the idolaters with whom ye made a treaty.
Yusuf Ali
A (declaration) of immunity from Allah and His Messenger, to those of the Pagans with whom ye have contracted mutual alliances:-
Shakir
(This is a declaration of) immunity by Allah and His Messenger towards those of the idolaters with whom you made an agreement.
Dr. Ghali
An acquittal from Allah and His Messenger to the ones of the associators (Those who associate others with Allah) (with) whom you have covenanted:.

Where does it say that "the Mushikrun had violated the treaty" in those 12 verses?

9:4 says:

Sahih International
Excepted are those with whom you made a treaty among the polytheists and then they have not been deficient toward you in anything or supported anyone against you; so complete for them their treaty until their term [has ended]. Indeed, Allah loves the righteous [who fear Him].
Muhsin Khan
Except those of the Mushrikun with whom you have a treaty, and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor have supported anyone against you. So fulfill their treaty to them to the end of their term. Surely Allah loves Al- Mattaqun (the pious - see V.2:2).
Pickthall
Excepting those of the idolaters with whom ye (Muslims) have a treaty, and who have since abated nothing of your right nor have supported anyone against you. (As for these), fulfil their treaty to them till their term. Lo! Allah loveth those who keep their duty (unto Him).
Yusuf Ali
(But the treaties are) not dissolved with those Pagans with whom ye have entered into alliance and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor aided any one against you. So fulfil your engagements with them to the end of their term: for Allah loveth the righteous.
Shakir
Except those of the idolaters with whom you made an agreement, then they have not failed you in anything and have not backed up any one against you, so fulfill their agreement to the end of their term; surely Allah loves those who are careful (of their duty).
Dr. Ghali
Excepting the ones of the associators (with) whom you covenanted, thereafter they did not fail (Literally: diminish anything) you in anything nor backed anyone against you. So complete (Literally: perfect (verb) your covenant with them till their (extended) period; surely Allah loves the pious..

But nothing about any non-Muslim actually violating a treaty. And, what if someone did not violate a treaty but did back someone against the Muslims (the verses says NOR/OR)? Then Muhammed/allah will break the treaty because of an action not related to the treaty.
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Old 11-04-2016, 02:35 PM
 
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Huh? That's not what I read. What it says is this:

Sahih International
[This is a declaration of] disassociation, from Allah and His Messenger, to those with whom you had made a treaty among the polytheists.
Muhsin Khan
Freedom from (all) obligations (is declared) from Allah and His Messenger (SAW) to those of the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah), with whom you made a treaty.
Pickthall
Freedom from obligation (is proclaimed) from Allah and His messenger toward those of the idolaters with whom ye made a treaty.
Yusuf Ali
A (declaration) of immunity from Allah and His Messenger, to those of the Pagans with whom ye have contracted mutual alliances:-
Shakir
(This is a declaration of) immunity by Allah and His Messenger towards those of the idolaters with whom you made an agreement.
Dr. Ghali
An acquittal from Allah and His Messenger to the ones of the associators (Those who associate others with Allah) (with) whom you have covenanted:.

Where does it say that "the Mushikrun had violated the treaty" in those 12 verses?

9:4 says:

Sahih International
Excepted are those with whom you made a treaty among the polytheists and then they have not been deficient toward you in anything or supported anyone against you; so complete for them their treaty until their term [has ended]. Indeed, Allah loves the righteous [who fear Him].
Muhsin Khan
Except those of the Mushrikun with whom you have a treaty, and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor have supported anyone against you. So fulfill their treaty to them to the end of their term. Surely Allah loves Al- Mattaqun (the pious - see V.2:2).
Pickthall
Excepting those of the idolaters with whom ye (Muslims) have a treaty, and who have since abated nothing of your right nor have supported anyone against you. (As for these), fulfil their treaty to them till their term. Lo! Allah loveth those who keep their duty (unto Him).
Yusuf Ali
(But the treaties are) not dissolved with those Pagans with whom ye have entered into alliance and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor aided any one against you. So fulfil your engagements with them to the end of their term: for Allah loveth the righteous.
Shakir
Except those of the idolaters with whom you made an agreement, then they have not failed you in anything and have not backed up any one against you, so fulfill their agreement to the end of their term; surely Allah loves those who are careful (of their duty).
Dr. Ghali
Excepting the ones of the associators (with) whom you covenanted, thereafter they did not fail (Literally: diminish anything) you in anything nor backed anyone against you. So complete (Literally: perfect (verb) your covenant with them till their (extended) period; surely Allah loves the pious..

But nothing about any non-Muslim actually violating a treaty. And, what if someone did not violate a treaty but did back someone against the Muslims (the verses says NOR/OR)? Then Muhammed/allah will break the treaty because of an action not related to the treaty.
Possibly you do not understand that the Qur'an is not a stand alone text of Islam or book of rules and regulations (although it contains some). While the Message is very clear (There is only One God and only he is to be worshiped) Not every Surah is understandable. To understand the content of the individual surah requires a study of the revelation of each surah. When it was revealed, who it was revealed to, the intended message etc. Even then it must be understood some Surat are for Muhammad(saws) alone and some for specific people, possibly some that have not been born yet. Not everybody is going to understand everything in the Qur'an.

All we can do is read for our self and study the various commentaries of Scholars and opinions from the Ulemmah, Ahadith and Madhabs.

Now where does it say the Mushrikun violated the treaty? You won't find that in the Qur'an

Here are several links speaking of the treaty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Hudaybiyyah

Jihad, Terrorism and Suicide Bombing: The Classical Islamic Perspective - Page 12

LIFE OF MUHAMMAD-Treaty of Hudaybiyyah. - TWO SIDES OF A MOUNTAIN

Muhammad and the Treaty of Hudaybiyya

To find more one must study the Ahadith and other sources of Sunnah.
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Old 11-04-2016, 04:41 PM
 
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Apparently you do not understand that 9:1 through 9:12 were revealed as part of a single discourse (9:1-37) relating to a specific event involving a specific people and has a 3 fold purpose.

Purpose 1 was to give notice that the Mushikrun had violated the treaty and the treaty was no longer valid.

.........................................


Possibly you do not understand that the Qur'an is not a stand alone text of Islam or book of rules and regulations (although it contains some). While the Message is very clear (There is only One God and only he is to be worshiped) Not every Surah is understandable. To understand the content of the individual surah requires a study of the revelation of each surah. When it was revealed, who it was revealed to, the intended message etc. Even then it must be understood some Surat are for Muhammad(saws) alone and some for specific people, possibly some that have not been born yet. Not everybody is going to understand everything in the Qur'an.

All we can do is read for our self and study the various commentaries of Scholars and opinions from the Ulemmah, Ahadith and Madhabs.

Now where does it say the Mushrikun violated the treaty? You won't find that in the Qur'an
Good grief! First it's "Purpose 1 (of the verses in the quran) was to give notice that the Mushikrun had violated the treaty and the treaty was no longer valid."

Then it's "Now where does it say the Mushrikun violated the treaty? You won't find that in the Qur'an "


Contradictions do not exist. The quran can't be giving that message and not giving that message.

At least you seem to implicitly to get that the quran is a mess and not understandable.

So, purpose 1 is down the drain. So is purpose 3. Down. The. Drain. All gone.

Let's look at purpose 2:
"Purpose 2 was to give the Mushikrun fair warning that they were no longer allowed into Mecca and were given a full year (It takes a full year for the passage of the 4 Sacred Months) to clear up their affairs. Those that agreed to adhere to the treaty, could remain in in Mecca if the able bodied adult males paid the Jizya tax. After a year any Mushikrun found in Mecca and did comply would be considered to be committing an act of war and treated as such."

Why is Muhammed running people out of Mecca? Does he own Mecca? What right does he have telling people to leave? Who died and left muhammed owner of Mecca?

And then this:

Sahih International
And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
Muhsin Khan
Then when the Sacred Months (the Ist, 7th, 11th, and 12th months of the Islamic calendar) have passed, then kill the Mushrikun (see V.2:105) wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and prepare for them each and every ambush. But if they repent and perform As-Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat), and give Zakat, then leave their way free. Verily, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
Pickthall
Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
Yusuf Ali
But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
Shakir
So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
Dr. Ghali
So, when the prohibiting months are drawn away, (Literally: stripped away) then kill the associators wherever you find them, and take them, and detain them, and sit (in wait) for them at every place of observation (i.e., ambush). But, in case they repent, and keep up the prayer, and bring the Zakat, (i.e., pay the obligatory poor-dues) then let them go their way; (Literally: pass on their way) surely Allah is Ever-Forgiving, Ever-Merciful..

How ugly!!
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Old 11-04-2016, 07:50 PM
 
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Good grief! First it's "Purpose 1 (of the verses in the quran) was to give notice that the Mushikrun had violated the treaty and the treaty was no longer valid."

Then it's "Now where does it say the Mushrikun violated the treaty? You won't find that in the Qur'an "


Contradictions do not exist. The quran can't be giving that message and not giving that message.

At least you seem to implicitly to get that the quran is a mess and not understandable.

So, purpose 1 is down the drain. So is purpose 3. Down. The. Drain. All gone.

Let's look at purpose 2:
"Purpose 2 was to give the Mushikrun fair warning that they were no longer allowed into Mecca and were given a full year (It takes a full year for the passage of the 4 Sacred Months) to clear up their affairs. Those that agreed to adhere to the treaty, could remain in in Mecca if the able bodied adult males paid the Jizya tax. After a year any Mushikrun found in Mecca and did comply would be considered to be committing an act of war and treated as such."

Why is Muhammed running people out of Mecca? Does he own Mecca? What right does he have telling people to leave? Who died and left muhammed owner of Mecca?

And then this:

Sahih International
And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
Muhsin Khan
Then when the Sacred Months (the Ist, 7th, 11th, and 12th months of the Islamic calendar) have passed, then kill the Mushrikun (see V.2:105) wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and prepare for them each and every ambush. But if they repent and perform As-Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat), and give Zakat, then leave their way free. Verily, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
Pickthall
Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
Yusuf Ali
But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
Shakir
So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
Dr. Ghali
So, when the prohibiting months are drawn away, (Literally: stripped away) then kill the associators wherever you find them, and take them, and detain them, and sit (in wait) for them at every place of observation (i.e., ambush). But, in case they repent, and keep up the prayer, and bring the Zakat, (i.e., pay the obligatory poor-dues) then let them go their way; (Literally: pass on their way) surely Allah is Ever-Forgiving, Ever-Merciful..

How ugly!!
You see it one way while I and probably most Muslims see it differently. Out side of the message of the Qur'an which is "There is only one God and only he is to be worshiped" it is very difficult to understand the Qur'an without some knowledge of the Sunnah, Ahadith and commentaries of the Ulemmah and scholars.

You will learn very little from the Qur'an except the MESSAGE. You pretty much have to be a Muslim to know how a Muslim understands the Qur'an. The Message is easy to understand. The ifs, buts and whys are not that easy to learn from the Qur'an alone.

but again, Thank You for your views. I find them to be thought provoking and an excellent tool for me to increase my Eeman. You give me considerable incentive to study the Tafsir and General consensus of other Muslims. I had been becoming quite lax in my practice of Islam, but your posts have rejuvenated the the flame of Enthusiasm I had when I first reverted.
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Old 11-04-2016, 09:12 PM
 
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Yes. Allah has sent down miracles, revelations and messengers to give clear proofs He exists and more important, what we should do once we come to this realization.

1) Allah has sent prophets and messengers with many proofs throughout the ages for people to be able to clearly see with their own eyes and to be able to use their own senses the miracles and proofs pointing to the fact, Allah does in fact, exist.

2) Moses (peace be upon him) showed many miracles to pharaoh and to the children of Israel. Plagues, locusts, water turning to blood, his stick becoming a snake, the voice in the burning bush and the parting of the Red Sea are clear miracles for the people of Moses time.

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It doesn't work this way, IMO.

Believing in God is faith. And faith does not require evidence.

Think about it, is it a faith anymore when it's based on evidence?

So you must understand the psyche of a person who wants an "evidence" of God.

NO MATTER WHAT evidence you provide them, they will ALWAYS come up with an exuse to dismiss it.

Even if God comes in front of them and they see him with their own eyes, they will say, "No, that's an illusion, our eyes are deceiving us."

So the notion of looking for "evidence of God" is an oxymoron.

Believing in God is a faith that is based on FREE CHOICE and not "evidence"


When a person feels the need and want of God, and his guidance in life then he starts his research and analyses all or many religions to see which one talks to him?

Others don't feel the need or want of a God in their lives so they choose to live the way they want to live.

ALL are FREE to make these choices.
And we should use our own intelligence and our own logic to make wise choices because in the end, we will be responsible for the choices that we made with free will.
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Islam's position on slavery came from the vision of this problem; Islam did not regard slavery as an inevitable consequence of the conflict between humans and this result is rooted in the minds and beliefs of over thousands of years, but it deals with plan that does not ignore the reality and does not jump it .. and also do not recognize it as He did Christianity.

Three stages of Islam was able to evaluate your slavery system
The first stage: improved the slaves and raising them to humanitarian level.

Second: narrowing its sources and counted out as the slave of the human character.

After this comes the key step, to free slaves.

In the first aspect: to improve the treatment of slaves
The eyes of Islam to the slave and not on the basis of religion, race, color, or race, but on the sheer basis of his humanity,
And all divine trends and orders in this regard was based on human slave is not, for example, it began to change the name of Islam and corrected.

Worship Allah and join none with Him in worship, and do good to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, Al-Masakin (the poor), the neighbour who is near of kin, the neighbour who is a stranger, the companion by your side, the wayfarer (you meet), and those (slaves) whom your right hands possess. Verily, Allah does not like such as are proud and boastful;36 AlNesaa

Do you know where this verse located? . It lies in Al Nisa (women). Of honoring God Almighty for women and of the honor of Islam to her, to be a Surah name Al Nisa (women) and no Surah as the men

Narrated Al-Ma'rur:

At Ar-Rabadha I met Abu Dhar who was wearing a cloak, and his slave, too, was wearing a similar one. I asked about the reason for it. He replied, "I abused a person by calling his mother with bad names." The Prophet said to me, 'O Abu Dhar! Did you abuse him by calling his mother with bad names You still have some characteristics of ignorance. Your slaves are your brothers and Allah has put them under your command. So whoever has a brother under his command should feed him of what he eats and dress him of what he wears. Do not ask them (slaves) to do things beyond their capacity (power) and if you do so, then help them.' " Sahih al-Bukhari 30




In the second step
The Islam narrow entrance to slavery, and the expansion of the director of it; the entrance to slavery before Islam was wide open; there slavery to sell if the human sell one of his relatives, gambling was taken loser slave to the winner, and the looting and robbery on the convoys, the weak and slavery and sold to make money, and meet debt was taken debtor slave to the creditor, and the prisoners of war and the king of the right, and Islam forbids all these aspects;



Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Allah said, 'I will be an opponent to three types of people on the Day of Resurrection: -1. One who makes a covenant in My Name, but proves treacherous; -2. One who sells a free person and eats his price; and -3. One who employs a laborer and takes full work from him but does not pay him for his lab our.' " Sahih al-Bukhari 2270



It did not keep the introduction of slavery only prisoners of war, Islam and brought them he put them three choices permission guardian
The releases free of charge, or to accept the redemption of prisoners, (sometimes this was opposite the teaching of reading and writing, and not money) or slavery, according to the rules of humanitarian Islam in dealing with the slave.

He then directed the expansion of Islam manumission reasons, including:
- Making the emancipation of the great acts of worship to God:


Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Whoever frees a Muslim slave, Allah will save all the parts of his body from the (Hell) Fire as he has freed the body-parts of the slave." Sa`id bin Marjana said that he narrated that Hadith to `Ali bin Al-Husain and he freed his slave for whom `Abdullah bin Ja`far had offered him ten thousand Dirhams or one-thousand Dinars. Sahih al-Bukhari 2517


the Messenger of Allah said: «Whoever slaps his owned slave or hit him, his expiation is his release» [Sahih Al Albani]


And let those who find not the financial means for marriage keep themselves chaste, until Allah enriches them of His Bounty. And such of your slaves as seek a writing (of emancipation), give them such writing, if you know that they are good and trustworthy. And give them something yourselves out of the wealth of Allah which He has bestowed upon you. And force not your maids to prostitution, if they desire chastity, in order that you may make a gain in the (perishable) goods of this worldly life. But if anyone compels them (to prostitution), then after such compulsion, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to those women, i.e. He will forgive them because they have been forced to do this evil action unwillingly).Al Nur 33
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Melk Alyamen
No one touches the tip of her dress, but one man is the owner byillegal marriage

Marriage seriously, the purpose of a family, and sons valid

Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him (prayer prayer and Melk Alyamen), Wonderful When the Messenger of God puts our performance prayer which is the backbone of our entire charity and the treatment of Melk Alyamen in one basket is a great .call to strong and keen treat what your Melk Alyamen

religious , physical and social commitment of men towards women owned, so we will find that Muslims are not criminals to rape women

the captivity of women who are not fighters is forbidden, and if the women who are fighting in rows of the enemies have taken as captivities , take them living in an existence honorable treat in Islam

Completely mistaken who thinks that the Melk Alyamen is object for sex , but they was used to get adequate education and learn the Qura'n and Sharia rulings.

Find them mothers of sultans and caliphs in Islamic history and this is not determined by beauty alone but also education and intelligence have a significant role in it.

Is making the Caliph or Sultan, who succeeds his father and keeps the king of their fathers and forefathers. like Al Muaatasem, Abdul Rahman Bin Moawya. etc...
Strong women in Islamic history Sultana Shagaret Al Dor, which had a very important role in repelling the advance of the Crusaders led by Louis IX was owned Armenian origin


Why did not abolish slavery by decree of Islam? Who told you that Islam did not abolish slavery ????

And let those who find not the financial means for marriage keep themselves chaste, until Allah enriches them of His Bounty. And such of your slaves as seek a writing (of emancipation), give them such writing, if you know that they are good and trustworthy. And give them something yourselves out of the wealth of Allah which He has bestowed upon you. And force not your maids to prostitution, if they desire chastity, in order that you may make a gain in the (perishable)
goods of this worldly life. But if anyone compels them (to prostitution), then after such compulsion, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to those women, i.e. He will forgive them because they have been forced to do this evil action unwillingly).Al Nur 33


In Islamic history the reign of Sultan Saifuddin Qutuz and Sultan Baybars has been one of the greatest Muslim rulers and kings although their origin were the captives of the Sultan Abdul Necmettin Ayoub.


The story of Omar Ibn al-Khattab may Allah be pleased with him with the Coptic who came from Egypt to complain to the faithful the injustice done to him by the son of Prince of Egypt, Amr ibn al-Aas may Allah be pleased with him

this story says, "Anas bin Malik - may Allah be pleased with him - a man of the people of Egypt came to Omar bin al-Khattab, may God bless him, he said: O faithful want to prevent Me injustice said, and what is, he said: raced son of Amr Ibn El-Aas preceded it, and started to beat me with a whip and say, I'm generous,

Omar wrote to Amr ordering him to come by, and comes with his son with him,, Umar said: Where is the Egyptian? Take the whip and strike son of Amr Ibn El-Aas And started to beat him with a whip, and Omar says: hit the son of the generous , Omar Amr said: .since when did you enslave people although they were born free
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You see it one way while I and probably most Muslims see it differently. Out side of the message of the Qur'an which is "There is only one God and only he is to be worshiped" it is very difficult to understand the Qur'an without some knowledge of the Sunnah, Ahadith and commentaries of the Ulemmah and scholars.

You will learn very little from the Qur'an except the MESSAGE. You pretty much have to be a Muslim to know how a Muslim understands the Qur'an. The Message is easy to understand. The ifs, buts and whys are not that easy to learn from the Qur'an alone.

but again, Thank You for your views. I find them to be thought provoking and an excellent tool for me to increase my Eeman. You give me considerable incentive to study the Tafsir and General consensus of other Muslims. I had been becoming quite lax in my practice of Islam, but your posts have rejuvenated the the flame of Enthusiasm I had when I first reverted.
I think we finally agree on something. The quran is page after page after page of meaningless garbage. And, of course, that means a worthless pile of garbage wrote the quran. Muhammed. There is no allah. On some level you know this. The whole idea that only a Muslim can understand a book that the creator of the universe wrote (and hey, we were all born Muslim, right??) is nonsense. Only a Muslim can convolute garbage into meaningless gold.

Now you dismiss the quran and go and cherry pick what your favorite Muslims write. You dismiss this:

Muhammed had sex with a 9 year old child when he was 53 years old according to MANY Islamic sources:

SAHIH AL-BUKHARI

Narrated Aisha:
The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234)

Narrated Hisham's father:
Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236)


Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64; see also Numbers 65 and 88)

SAHIH MUSLIM

'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine. She further said: We went to Medina and I had an attack of fever for a month, and my hair had come down to the earlobes. Umm Ruman (my mother) came to me and I was at that time on a swing along with my playmates. She called me loudly and I went to her and I did not know what she had wanted of me. She took hold of my hand and took me to the door, and I was saying: Ha, ha (as if I was gasping), until the agitation of my heart was over. She took me to a house, where had gathered the women of the Ansar. They all blessed me and wished me good luck and said: May you have share in good. She (my mother) entrusted me to them. They washed my head and embellished me and nothing frightened me. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) came there in the morning, and I was entrusted to him. (Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3309; see also 3310)

'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was six years old, and she was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old. (Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3311)

SUNAN ABU DAWUD

Aisha said: The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old. He had intercourse with me when I was nine years old.(Sunan Abu Dawud, Number 2116)

Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:
The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) married me when I was seven or six. When we came to Medina, some women came. According to Bishr's version: Umm Ruman came to me when I was swinging. They took me, made me prepared and decorated me. I was then brought to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him),and he took up cohabitation with me when I was nine. She halted me at the door, and I burst into laughter. (Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 41, Number 4915)

SUNAN NASA‘I

… When Hadrat Aisha passed nine years of marriage life, the Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) fell in mortal sickness… ‘A’isha was eighteen years of age at the time when the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) passed away and she remained a widow for forty-eight years till she died at the age of sixty-seven. She saw the rules of four Caliphs in her lifetime. She died on Ramadan 58 A.H. during the Caliphate of Hadrat Amir Mu‘awiya… (Sunan Nasa'i: English translation with Arabic Text, compiled by Imam Abu Abd-ur-Rahman Ahmad Nasa'i, rendered into English by Muhammad Iqbal Siddiqui [Kazi Publication, 121-Zulqarnain Chambers, Gampat Road, Lahore, Pakistan; first edition, 1994], Volume 1, p. 108)

SUNAN IBN-I-MAJAH

1876. ‘A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) is reported to have said: Allah’s Messenger (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) contracted marriage with me while I was (yet) a six years [sic] old girl. Then we arrived at Medina and stayed with Banu Harith b. Khazraj. I fell victim to fever; then my hair (of the head fell off (and became scattered). Then they became plenty and hanged down upto [sic] the earlobes. My mother ‘Umm Ruman came to me while I was (playing) in a swing alongwith [sic] my play-mates. She (the mother) called me loudly. I went to her and I did not know what he [sic] wanted. She seized my hand and stopped me at the door of the house and I was hearing [sic] violently until the agitation of my heart was over. Then she took some water and wiped it over my face and head. Then she admitted me to the house when some woman [sic] of Ansar were present in the house. They said, "You have entered with blessings and good fortune." Then she (the mother) entrusted me to them. So they embellished me and nothing frightened me but Allah’s Messenger (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) (when he came there) in the morning and they (the women) entrusted me to him. On that day, I was a nine years [sic] old girl."

1877. Abdullah (Allah be pleased with him) is reported to have said, "The Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) married ‘A’isha while she was a seven years [sic] old girl and took him [sic] to his house as a bride when she was nine years old and he parted with her (after his demise) when she was eighteen years old."

According to Al-Zawa‘id its isnad is sahih in accordance with the condition prescribed by Bukhari, but munqata because Abu ‘Ubaida did not hear from his father. Shu‘ba Abu Hatim and Ibn Hibban mentioned him amongst the authentic and reliable authorities. Tirmidhi in al-Jami’ and al-Mazzi in al-Atraf (has expressed the same opinion). Nasa‘i has transmitted this hadith in al-Sughra from the hadith ‘A’isha (Allah be pleased with her). (Sunan Ibn-I-Majah, Imam Abdullah Muhammad B. Yazid Ibn-I-Maja Al-Qazwini, English version by Muhammad Tufail Ansari [Kazi Publications, 121-Zulqarnain Chambers, Gampat Road, Lahore Pakistan, first edition, 1995], volume III, pp. 133-134)

IBN HISHAM

He married ‘A’isha in Mecca when she was a child of seven and lived with her in Medina when she was nine or ten. She was the only virgin that he married. Her father, Abu Bakr, married her to him and the apostle gave her four hundred dirhams. (Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasulullah (The Life of Muhammad), translated by Alfred Guillaume [Oxford University Press, Karachi, tenth impression 1995], p. 792)

AL-TABARI

In this year also the Messenger of God consummated his marriage with ‘A’ishah. This was in Dhu al-Qa‘dah (May-June 623) eight months after his arrival in Medina according to some accounts, or in Shawwal (April-May 623) seven months after his arrival according to others. He had married her in Mecca three years before the Hijrah, after the death of Khadijah. At that time she was six or, according to other accounts, seven years old.

According to ‘Ab al-Hamid b. Bayan al-Sukkari- Muhammad b. Yazid- Isma‘il (that is, Ibn Abi Khalid)- ‘Abd al-Rahman b. Abi al-Dahhak- a man from Quraysh- ‘Abd al-Rahman b. Muhammad: ‘Abd Allah b. Safwan together with another person came to ‘A’ishah, and ‘A’ishah said (to the latter), "O so-and-so, have you heard what Hafsah has been saying?" He said, "Yes, O Mother of the Faithful." ‘Abd Allah b. Safwan asked her, "What is that?" She replied, "There are nine special features in me that have not been in any woman, except for what God bestowed on Maryam bt. ‘Imran. By God, I do not say this to exalt myself over any of my companions." "What are these?" he asked. She replied, "The angel brought down my likeness; the Messenger of God married me when I was seven; my marriage was consummated when I was nine; he married me when I was a virgin, no other man having shared me with him; inspiration came to him when he and I were in a single blanket; I was one of the dearest people to him, a verse of the Qur’an was revealed concerning me when the community was almost destroyed; I saw Gabriel when none of his other wives saw him; and he was taken (that is, died) in his house when there was nobody with him but the angel and myself."

Umm Ruman said that al-Mut‘im b. ‘Adi had asked ‘A’ishah’s hand for his son, but Abu Bakr had not promised anything. Abu Bakr left and went to Mut‘im while his wife, mother of the son for whom he had asked ‘A’ishah’s hand, was with him. She said, "O son of Abu Quhafah, perhaps we could marry our son to your daughter if you could make him leave his religion and bring him in to the religion which you practice." He turned to her husband al-Mut‘im and said, "What is she saying?" He replied, "She says [what you have heard]." Abu Bakr left, [realizing that] God had [just] removed the problem he had in his mind. He said to Khawlah, "Call the Messenger of God." She called him and he came. Abu Bakr married [‘A’ishah] to him when she was [only] six years old. (The History of Al-Tabari: The Last Years of the Prophet, translated and annotated by Ismail K. Poonawala [State University of New York Press, Albany 1990], Volume IX, pp. 129-130)

‘A’ishah states: We came to Medina and Abu Bakr took up quarters in al-Sunh among the Banu al-Harith b. al-Khazraj. The Messenger of God came to our house and men and women of the Ansar gathered around him. My mother came to me WHILE I WAS BEING SWUNG ON A SWING BETWEEN TWO BRANCHES AND GOT ME DOWN. Jumaymah, my nurse, took over and wiped my face with some water and started leading me. When I was at the door, she stopped so I could catch my breath. I was then brought [in] while the Messenger of God was sitting on a bed in our house. [My mother] made me sit on his lap and said, "These are your relatives. May God bless you with them and bless them with you!" Then the men and women got up and left. The Messenger of God consummated his marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old. Neither a camel nor a sheep was slaughtered on behalf of me. Only Sa‘d b. ‘Ubaidah sent a bowl of food which he used to send to the Messenger of God.

‘Ali b. Nasr- ‘Abd al-Samad b. ‘Abd al-Warith- ‘Abd al-Warith b. ‘Abd al-Samad- his father- Aban al-‘Attar- Hisham b. ‘Urwah- ‘Urwah: He wrote to ‘Abd al-Malik b. Marwan stating that he had written to him about Khadijah bt. Khuwaylid, asking him about when she died. She died three years or close to that before the Messenger of God’s departure from Mecca, and he married ‘A’ishah after Khadijah’s death. The Messenger of God saw ‘A’ishah twice- [first when] it was said to him that she was his wife (she was six years old at that time), and later [when] he consummated she was nine years old.

(The report goes back to Hisham b. Muhammad. See above, I, 1766). Then the Messenger of God married ‘A’ishah bt. Abi Bakr, whose name is ‘Atiq b. Abi Quhafah, who is ‘Uthman, and is called ‘Abd al-Rahman b. ‘Uthman b. ‘Amir b. ‘Amir b. Ka‘b b. Sa‘d b. Taym b. Murrah: [The Prophet] married her three years before the Emigration, when she was seven years old, and consummated the marriage when she was nine years old, after he had emigrated to Medina in Shawwal. She was eighteen years old when he died. The Messenger of God did not marry any maiden except her. (The History of al-Tabari, Volume IX, pp. 130-131)

‘A’ishah, daughter of Abu Bakr.
Her mother was Umm Ruman bt. ‘Umayr b. ‘Amr, of the Banu Duhman b. al-Harith b. Ghanm b. Malik b. Kinanah.
The Prophet married ‘A’ishah in Shawwal in the tenth year after the [beginning of his] prophethood, three years before Emigration. He consummated the marriage in Shawwal, eight months after Emigration. On the day he consummated the marriage with her she was nine years old.

IBN KATHIR

Yunus b. Bukayr stated, from Hisham b. ‘Urwa, from his father who said, "The Messenger of God (SAAS) married ‘A’isha three years after (the death of) Khadija.At that time (of the contract) ‘A’isha had been a girl of six. When he married her she was nine. The Messenger of God (SAAS) died when ‘A’isha was a girl of eighteen. "

This tradition is considered gharib (unique in this line).

Al-Bukhari had related, from ‘Ubayd b. Isma‘il, from Abu Usama, from Hisham b. ‘Urwa, from his father, who said, "Khadija died three years before the emigration of the Prophet (SAAS). He allowed a couple of years or so to pass after that, and then he contracted marriage with ‘A’isha when she was six, thereafter consummating marriage with her when she was nine years old."

The hafiz Ya‘qub b. Sufyan stated, "Al-Hajjaj related to us, that Hammad related to him, from Hisham b. ‘Urwa, from his father, from ‘A’isha, who said, ‘The Messenger of God (SAAS), contracted marriage with me (after) Khadija’s death and before his emigration from Mecca, when I was six years old. After we arrived in Medina some women came to me while I was playing on a swing; my hair was like that of a boy. They dressed me up and put make-up on me, then took me to the Messenger of God (SAAS), and he consummated our marriage. I was a girl of nine.’"

IBN QAYYIM

Next, the Prophet… married Um Abdallah, Aishah, as-Siddiqah (the truthful one), daughter of as-Siddiq (the truthful one) Abu Bakr ibn Abi Qu’hafah, whom Allah has exonerated from above the seven heavens. ‘Aishah bint Abu Bakr was the beloved wife of the Prophet… The angel showed Aishah… to the Prophet… while she was wrapped in a piece of silk cloth, before he married her, and said to him. "This is your wife." The Prophet… married Aishah… during the lunar month of Shawwal, when she was six, and consummated the marriage in the first year after the Hijrah, in the month of Shawwal, when she was nine. The Prophet… did not marry any virgin, except Aishah… and the revelation never came to him while he was under the blanket with any of his wives, except Aishah. (Ibn Qayyim Al-Juaziyyah, Zad-ul Ma’ad fi Hadyi Khairi-l ‘Ibad (Provisions for the Hereafter, From the Guidance of Allah’s Best Worshipper), translated by Jalal Abualrub, edited by Alaa Mencke & Shaheed M. Ali [Madinah Publishers & Distributors, Orlando, Fl: First edition, December 2000], Volume I, pp. 157-158)

MARTIN LINGS

During the same year that followed Khadijah’s death, the Prophet dreamed that he saw a man who was carrying someone wrapped in a piece of silk. The man said to him: "This is thy wife, so uncover her." The Prophet lifted the silk and there was ‘A’ishah. But ‘A’ishah was only six years old, and he had passed his fiftieth year. Moreover Abu Bakr had promised her to Mut‘im for his son Jubayr. The Prophet simply said to himself: "If this be from God, He will bring it to pass." …

Meantime Abu Bakr approached Mut‘im, who was persuaded without difficulty to forgo the marriage of ‘A’ishah to his son; and, some months after the marriage of Sawdah, ‘A’ishah also became the Prophet’s wife, through a marriage contracted by him and her father, at which she herself was not present. She said afterwards, that she had her first inkling of her new status when one day she was playing with her friends outside, not far from their house, and her mother came and too her by the hand and led her indoors, telling her that henceforth she must not go out to play, and that her friends must come to her instead. ‘A’ishah dimly guessed the reason, though her mother did not immediately tell her that she was married; and apart from having to play in their courtyard instead of in the roads, her life continued as before. (Lings, Muhammad: His Life Based on the Earliest Sources [Inner Traditions, International, Ltd.; Rochester Vermont, 1983], pp. 105-106)

The Prophet and his daughters now went to live with Sawda in her new house; and after a month or two it was decided that ‘A’ishah’s wedding should take place.She was then only nine years old, a child of remarkable beauty, as might have been expected from her parentage…

Small preparations were made for the wedding- not enough, at any rate for ‘A’ishah to have had a sense of a great and solemn occasion, and shortly before they were due to leave the house she had slipped out into the courtyard to play with her passing friend. In her own words: "I was playing on a see-saw and my long streaming hair was disheveled. They came and took me from my play and made me ready."

Abu Bakr had bought some fine red-striped cloth from Bahrain and it had been made into a wedding-dress for her. In this they now clothed her. Then her mother took her to the newly built house where some women of the Helpers were waiting for her outside the door. They greeted her with the words "For good and for happiness- may all be well!" and led her into the presence of the Prophet. He stood their smiling and combed her hair and decked her with ornaments. Unlike his other marriages, at this there was no wedding feast… then they all went their ways, and the bridegroom and the bride were left together.

For the last three years scarcely a day had passed by without one or more of ‘A’ishah’s friends coming to play with her in the courtyard adjoining her father’s house. Her removal to the Prophet’s house changed nothing in this respect. Friends now came every day to visit her in her own apartment – new friends made since her arrival in Medina and also some of the old ones whose parents, like hers, had emigrated. "I would be playing with my dolls," she said, "with the girls who were my friends, and the Prophet would come in and they would steal out of the house and he would go out after them and bring them back, for he was pleased for my sake to have them there." Sometimes he would say "Stay where ye are" before they had time to move. He would also join in their games sometimes, FOR HE LOVED CHILDREN [Sam- meaning Aisha was only a child like them] and had often played with his own daughters. The dolls of puppets had many different roles. "One day," said ‘A’ishah, "the Prophet came in when I was playing with the dolls and he said: ‘O ‘A’ishah, whatever game is this?’ I said: ‘It is Solomon’s horses,’ and he laughed." But sometimes as he came in he would simply screen himself with his cloak so as not to disturb them. (Ibid., pp. 132-134)

SAIF-UR-RAHMAN AL-MUBARAKPURI

3. 'Aishah bint Abu Bakr: He married her in the eleventh year of Prophethood, a year after his marriage to Sawdah, and two years and five months before Al-Hijra.She was six years old when he married her. However, he did not consummate the marriage with her till Shawwal seven months after Al-Hijra, and that was in Madinah. She was nine then. She was the only virgin he married, and the most beloved creature to him. As a woman she was the most learnèd woman in jurisprudence. (Ar-Raheeq Al-Makhtum (THE SEALED NECTAR) Biography of the Noble Prophet, [Maktaba Dar-us-Salam Publishers & Distributors, First Edition 1995], "The Prophetic Household", p. 485)
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