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Old 01-04-2017, 09:38 AM
 
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This is the verse from the Koran
It grew penalty who fight Allah and His Messenger and spread mischief on earth to be killed or crucified or their hands and feet cut off from a dispute or deny the land it for them shame in this world and theirs in the Hereafter a great punishment ) al-maeda 33)
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They include penalties for those who are fighting the Prophet -
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The question is
If this brutal punishment in the time of Muhammad
Is it possible to apply these sanctions at this time also
Why do you want to know that?
Do you want to fight the Prophet?
Don't you know that the Prophet isn't here "at this time"?
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Old 01-05-2017, 05:05 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Khalif View Post
Why do you want to know that?
Do you want to fight the Prophet?
Don't you know that the Prophet isn't here "at this time"?
This is a question
So why do not you answer the question

It is a barbaric punishment
Muhammad's followers use these verses
You know we are here in an intellectual dialogue
We do not want war
But we want to know the nature of the Islamic thoughts
The background of Islamic terrorism in the world
This verse is one of those verses that call for violence
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Old 01-05-2017, 05:47 PM
 
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But a penalty who fight Allah and His Messenger and spread mischief on earth to be killed or crucified or their hands and feet cut off from a dispute or deny the land it for them shame in this world and theirs in the Hereafter a great punishment (al-maeda 33)
Explain this verse
But a penalty who are fighting God
Question to the Muslim
How man of God fights
Man fights God
He concept of strange and terrible contradiction

And His Messenger
So here equality between Allah and His Messenger
Who fights God is at the same time fighting the Messenger
vice versa
And mischief on earth

What is the meaning of corruption
1-To kill
2-Or hanged
3-Or cut off their hands and feet
4-Of disagreement
5-Or banished from the earth
6-So for them shame in this world
7- They have a great punishment in the Hereafter
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These are the penalties in this verse
Do you think that this is the Messenger of mercy specifications
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Is this the Messenger of mercy
He cut the hands of his enemies and their feet
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This verse refers to the terrible tyrant
Muslims say the Prophet of mercy
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Old 01-06-2017, 08:46 PM
 
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Why this silence
Is this verse is not in the qoran

Explain us
Are these sanctions are of God;
Do you cut the hands and feet are divine punishment
Arhmona O Muslims
And tell us
Did Muhammad Prophet of Mercy
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Old 01-07-2017, 01:41 AM
 
Location: Birmingham
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Originally Posted by mahasn sawresho View Post
But a penalty who fight Allah and His Messenger and spread mischief on earth to be killed or crucified or their hands and feet cut off from a dispute or deny the land it for them shame in this world and theirs in the Hereafter a great punishment (al-maeda 33)
Explain this verse
But a penalty who are fighting God
Question to the Muslim
How man of God fights
Man fights God
He concept of strange and terrible contradiction

And His Messenger
So here equality between Allah and His Messenger
Who fights God is at the same time fighting the Messenger
vice versa
And mischief on earth

What is the meaning of corruption
1-To kill
2-Or hanged
3-Or cut off their hands and feet
4-Of disagreement
5-Or banished from the earth
6-So for them shame in this world
7- They have a great punishment in the Hereafter
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These are the penalties in this verse
Do you think that this is the Messenger of mercy specifications
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Is this the Messenger of mercy
He cut the hands of his enemies and their feet
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This verse refers to the terrible tyrant
Muslims say the Prophet of mercy
To be thought of being intelligent, you have to be using your intelligence well. Now use your intelligence to understand the phrase, "those who wage war on Allah and His messenger and spread fasad on earth".

In Arabic, "and" is used quite often to join two or more parts to create just one phrase. In the Qur'aan, the phrase, "Allah and His messenger" does not mean "Allah" and "His messenger" but "Allah and His messenger", together as one phrase. It simply means "the Message" from Allah that is delivered by His messenger (The Qur'aan). Therefore, by waging war on Allah and His messenger is meant waging war on the Qur'aan and spreading fasad in the earth mean one term of physically waging war on the Qur'aan and Muslims. Don't expect Muslims to kiss you for such a war. History is full of those who waged wars and their hands were cut off so that they can never use those hands to wage war again. It happened to Hitler and it happened to Japan.

You asked a question about such simple phrase because you did not have enough intelligence to understand such a phrase in the Qur'aan!
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Old 01-07-2017, 08:36 PM
 
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. It happened to Hitler and it happened to Japan.
So Mohammed is no different from Hitler and the other who cut off the hands and robbed women
I think that Hitler did not say he is fighting for God's sake
Here, Hitler was sincere
But Mohammed said the war is for God
Hitler said he wanted to restore the glory of his nation Germanic
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The important question

How humans are fighting God
Does God have a material entity
Does the creature able to wage war on the Creator
So here is the war of the Prophet
Here is a merger between two characters
Personal God merged Mohammed
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It is a review of the types of sanctions in the ancient world
The sanctions in the Koran is the ugliest of these sanctions
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Do you notice in this sadistic punishments
Does God this is terrible image
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Old 01-08-2017, 12:50 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Khalif
. It happened to Hitler and it happened to Japan.
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My friend
How to put Mohammed in the same row with Hitler and other
Is your subconscious mind wrote these words
If you believe that Muhammad is no different from Hitler burned Jews
Mohammed and the murder of Jews
I think that is fantastic compared
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Hitler was a gas to many countries, but it did not lie in the source of his ideas
Hitler was glorifying his nation
And glorifies its history
But Muhammad was invades the name of God and fight in the way of Allah
He fight prosecutors
Is God in Islam is weak
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Old 01-08-2017, 02:31 AM
 
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So you did not understand the phrase I mentioned in my last post. What else can you understand?
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Old 01-08-2017, 05:44 PM
 
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Your post No. 175

Line number 8and 9

To be thought of being intelligent, you have to be using your intelligence well. Now use your intelligence to understand the phrase, "those who wage war on Allah and His messenger and spread fasad on earth".

In Arabic, "and" is used quite often to join two or more parts to create just one phrase. In the Qur'aan, the phrase, "Allah and His messenger" does not mean "Allah" and "His messenger" but "Allah and His messenger", together as one phrase. It simply means "the Message" from Allah that is delivered by His messenger (The Qur'aan). Therefore, by waging war on Allah and His messenger is meant waging war on the Qur'aan and spreading fasad in the earth mean one term of physically waging war on the Qur'aan and Muslims. Don't expect Muslims to kiss you for such a war. History is full of those who waged wars and their
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here
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hands were cut off so that they can never use those hands to wage war again. It happened to Hitler and it happened to Japan.
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to here
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You are here, you said that Hitler also cut hands
The Japanese did it
So why criticize Muhammad Muhammad only
This is the justification
To the actions of the Prophet Muhammad
Here you got that equality between Muhammad and Hitler
And you who wrote it
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Am I mistaken in my understanding of your words
I think the speaker in the English understand your words
This is your problem you
It is not my problem
Move your fingertips, because that is your subconscious mind
And you do you know the meaning of your words
That is why I say thank you to this wonderful comparison
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Old 01-10-2017, 11:07 PM
 
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So you did not understand the phrase I mentioned in my last post. What else can you understand?
This is from the words ali sina

One book
UNDERSTANDING
MUHAMMAD
We live in a dangerous time. When a fifth of humanity worships a
psychopath, eulogizes suicide bombing and thinks killing and martyrdom are
ultimate acts of piety, the world becomes a dangerous place. When these people
acquire atomic bomb, the earth becomes a powder keg.
Islam is a cult. It is time to wake up and realize

acquire atomic bomb, the earth becomes a powder keg.
Islam is a cult. It is time to wake up and realize that this cult is a threat to
mankind and there can be no co-existence with Muslims. As long as Muslims
believe in Muhammad, they are a threat to others and to themselves. Muslims
must either leave Islam, discard their culture of hate and join the rest of mankind
as fellow humans, or non-Muslims must separate themselves from them, ban
Islam, end the immigration of Muslims and send home those who plot against
democracy and refuse to integrate.
Islam is incompatible with democracy. It is a warring creed that uses
democracy to destroy it and to establish itself as a world wide dictatorship. The
only way to avert the clash between this barbarity and civilization, and a world
disaster, is to expose the fallacy of Islam and demystify it. Muslims must be
weaned from Islam for humanity to live in peace.
Understanding Muhammad is imperative
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It's a beautiful book in English
i can not Read all book but many pages
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