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Old 01-13-2017, 11:46 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Khalif View Post
You are not thinking straight here. If "something is not created for" then it must be investigated what it is not created for.

The verse itself tells you what something (jinn and humans in this case) was not created for (worshiping other than Me).

It couldn't be more simple, could it?
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Funny, actually you are the one who is not thinking straight here.

You deliberately ignore the necessary "except" [illa].
Verse 51:56 meant the following;

"something is not created for" except for to worship Allah.

thus

something (jinn and humans in this case) was not created for except to worship Allah.
You still haven't understood the basic meaning of something (jinn and humans in this case) was not created for worshiping other than Allah.
(You failed to notice "except" = "other than".)

There isn't even one verse in the Qur'aan that says that humans were created for the sole purpose to worship Allah.
There are verses in the Qur'aan that say that humans are not to worship gods (idols) other than Allah. These verses imply that humans were not created to worship idols (gods other than Allah).

Therefore, 51:56 confirms that humans were not created to worship (any god) other than Allah.


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I did not create jinn and humankind except that [I created jinn and humankind] to worship Me.
The phrase in blue is implied in 51:56 but ignored in the original to avoid being repetitive.
That is a very silly suggestion. It suggests that Allah did not know how to say:
I created the jinn and humankind to worship Me
without repeating something.

It took me a long time to realize why Allah did not use "I created the jinn and humans" in the verse instead of "I did not create the jinn and humans" for a precise reason. Neither the translators nor you have understood that precise reason. I now know why Allah did not say:
I created the jinn and humankind to worship Me.
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Old 01-14-2017, 01:37 AM
 
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وما خلقت الانس والجن الا ليعبدون
So understand well
Search the word وما

And also the word الا

Because they are important to know the full sentence
(وَما) (And) the resumption of the letter waw and denying

الواو حرف استئناف وما نافية
(Only) limited to a character الا

Here exile وما
In other words, the creation is not his goal is العيادة
As well as crafts الا
It restricts and defines mankind and the jinn
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Old 01-14-2017, 02:01 AM
 
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Originally Posted by mahasn sawresho View Post
وما خلقت الانس والجن الا ليعبدون
So understand well
Search the word وما

And also the word الا

Because they are important to know the full sentence
(وَما) (And) the resumption of the letter waw and denying

الواو حرف استئناف وما نافية
(Only) limited to a character الا

Here exile وما
In other words, the creation is not his goal is العيادة
As well as crafts الا
It restricts and defines mankind and the jinn
Exactly! For a change, you are thinking.

The subject of the verse is not creation but worship العيادة
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