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Old 12-30-2016, 04:29 AM
 
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Note these two concepts of 'Jihad', i.e.
1. Jihad as used within the English Language

2. Jihad within the 'Language of the Quran.'

I wish to deal with the above in two separate OPs.

This OP will deal with 'Jihad' within the English Language.

The first thing on this point is to refer to the English Dictionary.
Jihad: noun
1. a holy war undertaken as a sacred duty by Muslims.
2. any vigorous, emotional crusade for an idea or principle.
Jihad | Define Jihad at Dictionary.com


Origin: 1865-70; < Arabic jihād struggle, strife

British Dictionary definitions for jihad
noun
1. (Islam) a holy war against infidels undertaken by Muslims in defence of the Islamic faith
2. (Islam) the personal struggle of the individual believer against evil and persecution
3. (rare) a crusade in support of a cause

Word Origin
C19: from Arabic jihād a conflict
Word Origin and History for jihad
n. 1869, from Arabic, usually translated as "holy war," literally "struggle, contest, effort," from infinitive of jahada "he waged war, he applied himself to."
Used in English since c.1880 for any sort of doctrinal crusade.

Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2010 Douglas Harper


jihad in Culture
jihad [(ji- hahd, ji- had)]

In Islam, a holy war; a war ordained by God. The Koran teaches that soldiers who die in jihad go to heaven immediately.

Note : Modern-day terrorists often claim that they are carrying out acts of destruction, such as the attacks on the World Trade Center towers, as part of a jihad.
The American Heritage® New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, Third Edition

Slang definitions & phrases for jihad
jihad -noun

A violent attack; destructive assault : We'll call these guys Tinker, Evers, and Chance, to protect them from jihad by the Elvis cult

[1980s+; fr Arabic, ''holy war'']

The Dictionary of American Slang, Fourth Edition by Barbara Ann
Note the term 'jihad' in the English Language has been around since the mid 1800s.
Therefore it is absurd for any one to claim the term 'jihad' was coined by politician jihad and the media.

One point to note is the term 'jihad' within the English Language is different from the term 'jihad' within the Language of the Quran [Allah's word] which I will deal in a separate OP.
I am sure the term 'jihad' in MSA may have a different perspective, but I am not dealing with it here. Someone can raised it up somewhere.

The question how do we reconcile the term 'jihad' within the English Language and Language of the Quran without creating confusions.

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Old 12-30-2016, 09:21 AM
 
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Teach them in English what real "jihad" is and then they won't use it as violence against peaceful non-Muslims.

As long as the ignorant ones keep telling the terrorists that they are "jihadists" fighting a "holy war", they will have the approval to carry on fighting that approved "holy war".
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Old 12-30-2016, 10:05 PM
 
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Teach them in English what real "jihad" is and then they won't use it as violence against peaceful non-Muslims.

As long as the ignorant ones keep telling the terrorists that they are "jihadists" fighting a "holy war", they will have the approval to carry on fighting that approved "holy war".
The important point about linguistic and meaning of the word is the referent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Referent

The word is just the sign which is not that critical but what is critical is the referent.
The referent is that which the reference is referring to.

Example, the word 'apple' is a necessary sign, but what is most critical is the referent.
That 'referent' which is called apple in words or sound can be in many thousand words and sounds in different languages and dialect.
Therefore to get to the referent we must zoom into its specific qualities rather than messing around with the word.
The referent of 'apples' [or whatever name it is called] is that which is seen, smell, felt, heard [when tapped] and taste the same for all referent of the likes.

There is no absolute meaning for any word.
One good example is the word "gay" with its different referent.
What is critical is the intended referent on of a word in context.

So it is the same treatment for the word 'jihad' in the English language.
The question is what is the referent for the reference [word] 'jihad' in the English language.

Note the referent for 'jihad' in the English Language [from mid 1800s] cannot be exactly the same as 'jihad' in the Quranic Language [710AD++].

So what is the referent for 'jihad' in the English Language that is different from the Quranic term 'jihad.'
The term "jihad" that was coined in the mid 1800s was related to holy wars by SOME Muslims.
The original Quranic meaning of "strive" was deviated to concentrate on the war aspect.

I believe [need citations] this deviation from the Quranic strive to focus on war was started from the Ahadith which stressed on warfare.

It is because of those Muslims [not all] who used the term jihad in warring against infidels that the infidels used the term 'jihad' to refer to wars started or against Muslims. By this time the referent for jihad has shifted from merely 'striving' to 'holy war'.

So if the English dictionary define the referent of 'jihad' as 'holy war' then the intended referent is 'holy war' as the dictionary meaning [as agreed by consensus].
So at the present the referent of 'jihad' in the English Language mean 'holy war' as the main referent.
This referent can be linked only as far back to the Ahadith but not the Quran.
There is some indirect linkage but Allah did not specifically link "jihad" [strive] to "holy war" in the Quran.

Just like the word "gay," any word in the dictionary can be assigned a new different referent as long as there is a consensus.

Thus if Muslims want to change the referent of "jihad" in the English dictionaries to be the same as 'jihad' in the Quranic Language they can start a process to do it.
But in the present the referent of "jihad" in the English Language is what is meant as stated in the dictionary in the OP and elsewhere.

Therefore it is absurd for any one to blame the use of the term 'jihad' to mean 'holy war' on jihad politicians and the media.

Last edited by Continuum; 12-30-2016 at 10:15 PM..
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