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Old 01-03-2017, 12:26 AM
 
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Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim In The Name of Allāh,The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful. As salaamu alaykum The Peace Be Upon You (everyone).


All whom are birthed in this realm are subject to sin. However, the Prophet Muhammad PBUH, had a higher level of protection from Allāh. Much of this protection is in the very Qur'an, which was given through Prophet Muhammad PBUH. Qur'anic Protection
You are apparently making reference to Ahadith, which cannot overcome the Holy Qur'an. Although stoning is from the Old Testament. A woman's hair can sensually arouse some males, and it is best for women to cover their hair.
My friend
There are different types of Islamic books
1. reasons to get off اسباب النزول
Each verse of the Koran is a reason
2-Biography of the Prophet السيرة النبوية
3-chatter Muhammadiyah الاحاديث المحمدية
Because some of the verses can not be understood unless you use one of those means
the question :
Why missed the revelation of the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him? And how the absence of a period of revelation? And what did the Prophet peace be upon him through the revelation interruption?
Jabir bin Abdullah, may Allah be pleased that he heard the Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him says: (then waned meant revelation period, Fbana I walk I heard a voice from heaven, lifted Bosra before the sky, if the king, who came to me bhraa sitting on a chair between heaven and earth, Fjitt him, even Hoyt to earth, he told my family I came: angel Gabriel These words. ejaculates God (O Enveloped) to (shun).
Al-Bukhaari (4953) interview with Aisha in the commencement of the revelation and the telling of the Prophet peace be upon him the paper, including the opinion, and telling the paper to him: "The realize day alive Nasr victory apron" Aisha said: "Then did not arise and the paper died, and after the revelation."
This is the first time.--------------
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There are periods when the revelation was interrupted at the beginning of a claim of Muhammad
But how can the interpretation of those verses
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You must be traced back to the books of Muslims--
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Bukhari linking and Rrrakh son Nofal, a cousin of Mohammed and the apathy
What is the relationship of the man with Mohammed--
There are many other examples
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Perish the hands of the ab- lahb
who is he ab- lahb
He wrote down the reasons you explain it
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The incident Alivk
What is the meaning Evoque
Wrote explaining that Muslims
State Evoque talk about adultery Aisha Mohammed
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And how God's intervention in the declaration of innocence after a month of thinking
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Old 01-03-2017, 06:07 AM
 
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Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim In The Name of Allāh,The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful. As salaamu alaykum The Peace Be Upon You (everyone).


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Almost anything of a woman can arouse a hormonally charged male depending on one's background, etc.

Morally a certain degree of decency is necessary where relevant.
However covering the hair of a person is too extreme.
To expect it to be an immutable and eternal rule is too extreme.
A wise god would understand human nature and teach those believers who are hair perverts to control their nafs instead of controlling external things like covering hair.

My main point is, whatever that is not within the scope of the Quran, cannot carry any divine right.
Within certain conditions, any one with authority can impose others to cover their hair for relevant conditions, but a Muslims cannot insist that is because God of the Quran said so. This is because there is no where in the Quran where Allah stated a women's hair must be covered.

Your response is too extreme. You are not a woman. Ask women who must put up with the stupid advances of sexual perverts, sometimes on a daily basis, at work, on the streets, in the elevator, in train/bus stations, etcetera.

Allāh (SWT), in His Wisdom, taught believing women to cover themselves (obviously) for good purpose. So that they will be recognized and hence, go their way, unmolested. Some unbelieving women of the world follow this same modesty. If Qur'an does not require hair covering, it may not have been a problem in those times, and was left to the discernment of the intelligent individual Muslimah.
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Old 01-03-2017, 05:22 PM
 
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Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim In The Name of Allāh,The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful. As salaamu alaykum The Peace Be Upon You.




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Originally Posted by Continuum View Post
Almost anything of a woman can arouse a hormonally charged male depending on one's background, etc.

Morally a certain degree of decency is necessary where relevant.
However covering the hair of a person is too extreme.
To expect it to be an immutable and eternal rule is too extreme.
A wise god would understand human nature and teach those believers who are hair perverts to control their nafs instead of controlling external things like covering hair.

My main point is, whatever that is not within the scope of the Quran, cannot carry any divine right.
Within certain conditions, any one with authority can impose others to cover their hair for relevant conditions, but a Muslims cannot insist that is because God of the Quran said so. This is because there is no where in the Quran where Allah stated a women's hair must be covered.

And before I forget, many if not most "hair perverts" as you called them, may not realize that they have that problem with hair. And, the Qur'an may not have mentioned "The New World Order," which wants a "hedonistic" society, world wide. I pray that you get my point!

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he·don·is·tic ˌhēdnˈistik ˌhedəˈnistik
adjective
adjective hedonistic
engaged in the pursuit of pleasure; sensually self-indulgent.
self-indulgent pleasure-seeking sybaritic lotus-eating epicurean good-time unrestrained intemperate immoderate extravagant decadent....
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Old 01-03-2017, 11:13 PM
 
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This is the Prophet of mercy


الكتاب: السيرة النبوية ـ المجلد السادس ـ غزوات وبعوث الرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ غزوة زيد الطرف
الكاتب:
عبد الملك بن هشام المعافري

Qais son Almshr bin al-Numan Masada bin wisdom bin Malik bin Badr and killing and capturing or cinnamon Fatima girl Zama bin Badr was when Huzaifa bin Badr big old man and a girl her Abdullah ibn Masada ordered Zaid bin Haritha kill or cinnamon killed her killed violently and tying her legs splice then linked to Baerin various even Hqaha. then came the Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him a daughter or cinnamon and Abd Allah ibn Masada girl was ordered cinnamon to Salamah ibn al-Akwa 'was the one who hit and was in the house of the honor of her people. Arabs used to say if you dearest mother asked her cinnamon Allah bless him and his VohbhaMuhammad kills Aum Karvh--
The pitting people to the Prophet Muhammad, he sent in the sixth year of the migration of Zaid bin Haritha in secret and killed her, as Rgilha tying a rope and then angled between Baerin even constructed rip, and was a great old man. Then carry her head to the city to know that they had killed, [1] although there was a weakening of the news of representation by recognizing kill her for being a woman fighter for Muslims and feedback. [2] and was told that it was a Muslim before it bounced in the Battle of A [3].-----------
Biography of the Prophet Ibn Hisham »Salam ibn Abi rightful killed
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Killing bin peace Abi'l

[Khazraj permission of the Prophet to kill ابن الحقيق -abn al -haqeq

Ibn Ishaq said: When the elapsed would ditch, and ordered Quraizah, and it was a salam ebn -haqeq, Abu Rafe those who party parties to the Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him, and the Aws before one was killed Ka'b ibn Ashraf, in his hostility to the Messenger of Allah bless him and peace and inciting it, she asked Khazraj Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him in the killing of bin Abi rightful peace, a Khyber, he gave them permission.

Ibn Ishaq said, and told me Mohammed bin Muslim bin Shihab syphilis, [p. 274] Abdullah bin Ka'b bin Malik, he said, was that God made him to His Messenger, peace be upon him that these two neighborhoods of supporters, and Aws and Khazraj, were Atasawlan with the Messenger Allah bless him and Tasawl Alvhalin, not manufactured ous something about the Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him sing, but she Khazraj: God, do not you go to this as well as we have at the Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him and in Islam. He said: do not end up like her sign up; and if I did something she Khazraj Aws like it. As ous Ka'b ibn Ashraf hit in his hostility to the Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him said Khazraj: God, do not you go out as well as we never, he said: Vtmacarua: from man to the Messenger of Allah peace be upon him the enmity as the son of Ashraf? He cited salam ebn haqeq a Khyber, Fastoznoa Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him to kill him, gave them permission --
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This is the Prophet of mercy
It sends criminals to kill his enemies
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We have noticed that he slit a woman between Baerin
And now sends criminals to kill the ebn haqeq
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Old 01-11-2017, 05:17 AM
 
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Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim In The Name of Allāh,The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful. As salaamu alaykum The Peace Be Upon You.



From the following book:

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Satan said, “Abstain from greed which forced out Adam from the Paradise and avoid jealousy which drove me out of the Paradise.” At this moment Allah revealed unto Nuh that even though he (Satan) was accursed, what he said was true.” [Nuh = Noah]

https://www.al-islam.org/hayat-al-qu...qir-al-majlisi
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