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Old 12-31-2016, 02:22 PM
 
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Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim In The Name of Allāh,The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful. As salaamu alaykum The Peace Be Upon You.

Started reading what appears to be an interesting analysis of the life of Prophet Muhammad, PBUH.

http://holybooks.lichtenbergpress.ne...phets-Life.pdf The Messenger of God Muhammad An Analysis of the Prophets Life
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Old 12-31-2016, 06:08 PM
 
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Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim In The Name of Allāh,The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful. As salaamu alaykum The Peace Be Upon You.

Started reading what appears to be an interesting analysis of the life of Prophet Muhammad, PBUH.

http://holybooks.lichtenbergpress.ne...phets-Life.pdf The Messenger of God Muhammad An Analysis of the Prophets Life
Wonderful theme

Khadija reveal her thighs to make sure the revelation
n 610 AD, and one night of nights has retired in the late Mohammed Ramadan holy month, which was among the Arabs before Islam, too, Mohammad said, whoever that may came to him there and said to him:
Read, replied Muhammad I can not read, he took him this object strongly attached and strength until he almost chokes and then send it repeats three times up, then the object, said: "Read the name of your Lord who created, created man from a clot, Read and your Lord is Most Generous, who taught by the pen Anthropology unless knows "zap Mohammed raid he is suddenly entered his wife Khadija panic and tremble shouting" angel Gabriel These words "or" Dtheroni Dtheroni ".. and their meaning together," Gtona Gtona "Muhammad was at the top of the fear ..astvsrth Khadija about the news, the whole story is told her was not sure what he saw, you devil or angel? He said to her letter, "I have feared for myself." But Khadija had a different opinion: She told him "preach the gospel, my cousin and proved Whose hand is my soul I hope to be a prophet of this nation," and then took him Khadija to her cousin, the Rev. Christian paper ibn Nawfal, he said her: "this law, which was revealed to Moses."
Khadija test to detect the health of the divine Alouhb

They noticed the thinking of those retarded Bedouins who Tkdssounam ...

Under Mohammed doubted the nature of its author, although it saw him on other occasions without the people he sees around him, he wanted Khadija sure she said to Muhammad: "A cousin can not tell me Besahbk if it came" when he received the owner told her about it, she said, then I sat on the left thighs, then she said, Do you see he said: Yes, she turned to the right as well, and then she said, turned to then sit in the stone, then dropped the veil and lamented on his lap and said: Do you see he said: No, she said, proved, I swear to the king of what is a demon. "
Commentators disagree on the meaning and lamented how Muhammad sat in her lap, but agreed that it had uncovered part of the body believes it is not permissible for the angels to see while the Devils can see! So testing is simple when Lady Qrchih, at the age of more than sixty years, make sure Muhammad the identity of the owner that an angel is no angel, but the angel Gabriel. "Khadija according She also said the Islamic sources, used to say: I wish to be a prophet of this nation. Because they they believe that the prophet of the Jews is that Moses, the prophet of the Christians, according to their view, and is Isa, why the Arab nation does not have a prophet? they were looking to the Prophet, the Prophet hoped.
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This information from the books Muslims
I submit the following questions
1. How did you know that Khadija Mohammed Hhornbe
2-Why was a test to make sure that he is not an angel and a devil
3-Does the angel comes to a prophet among the arms of his wife
This is the first questions in this topic
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Old 01-01-2017, 08:13 AM
 
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Arabs before Muhammad were living in ignorance. They were worshiping 360 idol gods. Muhammad proved it to them that the idol gods were useless unable to defend even their little fingers.
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Old 01-01-2017, 08:31 AM
 
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Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim In The Name of Allāh,The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful. As salaamu alaykum The Peace Be Upon You (everyone).



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All scholars agree that he lived happily with Khadija, a widow 15 years older than himself, with nothing to suggest any misconduct during their 25-year marriage (ending only with Khadija's death).


Where did you find this odd bit??

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Khadija reveal her thighs to make sure the revelation
n 610 AD, and one night of nights has retired in the late Mohammed Ramadan holy month, which was among the Arabs before Islam, too, Mohammad said, whoever that may came to him there and said to him:
Read, replied Muhammad I can not read, he took him this object strongly attached and strength until he almost chokes and then send it repeats three times up, then the object, said: "Read the name of your Lord who created, created man from a clot, Read and your Lord is Most Generous, who taught by the pen Anthropology unless knows "zap
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Old 01-01-2017, 11:53 PM
 
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Arabs before Muhammad were living in ignorance. They were worshiping 360 idol gods. Muhammad proved it to them that the idol gods were useless unable to defend even their little fingers.
It is Muhammad who did it personally or was it Allah who revealed that knowledge to Muhammad via Gabriel during the period 610 - 632 AD?

From the perspective of the Philosophy of Religions, there are pros and cons of Monotheism versus polytheism as human nature and its inclinations are not all the same. There is no such thing as one-size fits all in religiosity.

Like as in learning, one cannot force the program of a fast learner into the throat of a slow learner.
Even whether a person is a fast or slow learner will depend his focus of intelligence. A fast learner in Mathematics and Science may be a slow learner in arts subjects, and vice-versa.

Therefore within the sphere of Religion, a believer cannot be forced into one standard mode of religion, e.g. theistic monotheism. It is not easy for every one to grasp the invisible infinite. This is why some believers need different minor gods and idols to deal with the standard existential dilemma.

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Old 01-02-2017, 12:19 AM
 
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The article in the OP put Muhammad on too high a pedestal.

According to the Quran Muhammad like all messengers, his duty is mainly to be like that of a 'parrot' or 'tape recorder' to reproduce whatever the message that was revealed to him from Allah via Gabriel.


22:49. Say [O Muhammad]: O mankind! I am only a plain warner unto you.

25:56. And We have sent thee (O Muhammad) only as a bearer of good tidings and a warner.

29:18. But if ye [infidel] deny, then nations have [also] denied before you. The messenger is only to convey (the Message) plainly.

36:17. And our [apostles as messenger] duty is but plain conveyance (of the message) [albalaghu almubeenu].

42:48. But if they [infidels] are averse, We have not sent thee [Muhammad] as a warder over them. Thine [Muhammad] is ONLY to convey (the message) [albalaghu]. And lo! when We cause man to taste of mercy from Us he exulteth therefor. And if some evil striketh them [infidels] because of that which their own hands have sent before, then lo! man is an ingrate. [Muhammad has no authority over infidels, only God judge and punish them]
There are many such verses [> 50] as the above.

Allah did exhort Muslims to obey Muhammad, but that 'obey' is confined within the scope of the Quran and nothing else.

As stated in the Quran, the messenger is also vulnerable to sins and thus if a follower were to obey everything from Muhammad, then the follower could be following a sin. Obviously that is not the intention of Allah.
Thus the control is, whatever is to be obeyed from Muhammad must be within the scope of the Quran and no where else. Therefore rules like stoning of adulteress, covering of hair and others cannot be taken as imperative from Allah.
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Old 01-02-2017, 01:22 AM
 
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Arabs before Muhammad were living in ignorance. They were worshiping 360 idol gods. Muhammad proved it to them that the idol gods were useless unable to defend even their little fingers.
Arabs before Islam had their religious freedom
Because he was living in Mecca with the Jewish Christian who believes in the moon
Mohammed and the transfer of pagan rituals to Islam, including the pilgrimage
The Arabs before Islam used to go to Mecca for the Hajj
They go to the Black Stone
Mohammed did not cancel these statutes, but transferred to Islam
Muslims kiss the Black Stone
It is one of the most important duties of worship in Islam
So the Arabs before Islam are not in the age of ignorance
But they were in the era of freedom
This freedom, which is the killing of Mohammed
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Old 01-02-2017, 01:29 AM
 
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Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim In The Name of Allāh,The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful. As salaamu alaykum The Peace Be Upon You (everyone).







Where did you find this odd bit??
He wrote the Muslims and the Koran
Muhammad was married to Khadija that he died Khadija
And books of Islamic history to explain his marriage to Khadija
Khadija was a wealthy Quraish
He had a kinship with Muhammad also
He was supported by
But the question is how do you know that Khadija Mohammed would be a prophet
Do Khadija was also a prophetess
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Old 01-02-2017, 07:54 AM
 
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Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim In The Name of Allāh,The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful. As salaamu alaykum The Peace Be Upon You (everyone).


All whom are birthed in this realm are subject to sin. However, the Prophet Muhammad PBUH, had a higher level of protection from Allāh. Much of this protection is in the very Qur'an, which was given through Prophet Muhammad PBUH. Qur'anic Protection
You are apparently making reference to Ahadith, which cannot overcome the Holy Qur'an. Although stoning is from the Old Testament. A woman's hair can sensually arouse some males, and it is best for women to cover their hair.


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As stated in the Quran, the messenger is also vulnerable to sins and thus if a follower were to obey everything from Muhammad, then the follower could be following a sin. Obviously that is not the intention of Allah.
Thus the control is, whatever is to be obeyed from Muhammad must be within the scope of the Quran and no where else. Therefore rules like stoning of adulteress, covering of hair and others cannot be taken as imperative from Allah.
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Old 01-02-2017, 11:39 PM
 
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Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim In The Name of Allāh,The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful. As salaamu alaykum The Peace Be Upon You (everyone).


All whom are birthed in this realm are subject to sin. However, the Prophet Muhammad PBUH, had a higher level of protection from Allāh. Much of this protection is in the very Qur'an, which was given through Prophet Muhammad PBUH. Qur'anic Protection
You are apparently making reference to Ahadith, which cannot overcome the Holy Qur'an. Although stoning is from the Old Testament. A woman's hair can sensually arouse some males, and it is best for women to cover their hair.
Almost anything of a woman can arouse a hormonally charged male depending on one's background, etc.

Morally a certain degree of decency is necessary where relevant.
However covering the hair of a person is too extreme.
To expect it to be an immutable and eternal rule is too extreme.
A wise god would understand human nature and teach those believers who are hair perverts to control their nafs instead of controlling external things like covering hair.

My main point is, whatever that is not within the scope of the Quran, cannot carry any divine right.
Within certain conditions, any one with authority can impose others to cover their hair for relevant conditions, but a Muslims cannot insist that is because God of the Quran said so. This is because there is no where in the Quran where Allah stated a women's hair must be covered.
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