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Old 01-04-2017, 06:48 AM
 
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The Link below is a full film about the beginning of revelation of the Qur'aan, how it was opposed, how the first believers were persecuted, how they were forced to seek shelter away from Mecca, their belongings looted, and the wars that followed.

To get the full picture, please watch the full film till the end. It is a full length film. Can be viewed in full screen. The best part comes near the end and it shows how the infidels of Mecca were dealt with in the end.

Watch Movie - The Message - The Story of Islam
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Old 01-04-2017, 10:48 AM
 
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See in the film who began the killings, Muslims or the infidels.
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Old 01-04-2017, 09:16 PM
 
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The Link below is a full film about the beginning of revelation of the Qur'aan, how it was opposed, how the first believers were persecuted, how they were forced to seek shelter away from Mecca, their belongings looted, and the wars that followed.

To get the full picture, please watch the full film till the end. It is a full length film. Can be viewed in full screen. The best part comes near the end and it shows how the infidels of Mecca were dealt with in the end.

Watch Movie - The Message - The Story of Islam
This is very normal, if you get hundred groups of people to write the story line, you will get a hundred different versions of it.

To rely on history especially those of 710++AD to get to the real truth is very doubtful and uncertain.

The best we can do to get to what Islam represent is directly from the Quran only and no where else.

We can rely on secondary and other sources but they must be aligned with the essence of the Quran plus logical rationale.
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Old 01-05-2017, 01:33 AM
 
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Which part of the film does not align with essence of the Qur'aan and, therefore, Islam?
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Old 01-05-2017, 06:33 PM
 
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Is there in the film how they were slaughtering Jews
Or divine decree in the marriage of Mohammed Zainab
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Old 01-05-2017, 06:36 PM
 
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Islam we know from the Koran and the teachings of the Koran
There is no revelation
He's just sick illusions
What's new presented by Mohammed to humanity
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Old 01-06-2017, 03:59 AM
 
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The film shows how idol worshipers were slaughtering Muslims before they were held to account for such wrongdoings.

If anyone wants to read how the Jews were slaughtered by other Jews or how the Jews slaughtered the non-Jews in and around Jerusalem, read the Torah and the related books to do with Joshua instead of watching this film.
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Old 01-07-2017, 02:41 AM
 
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This is almost a 3 hours film.
Why should I waste my time on this as expected very bias movie that [partly] has evil potentials.

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Summary of Movie: ” The Message” | Islamic Society of Triplex, Inc. (Beaumont Mosque)

in Arabic: الرسالة Ar-Risalah; U.S. title: The Message) is a 1976 film directed by Mustapha Akkad [presumably a Muslim, thus likely to be bias] chronicling the life and times of Muhammad, the prophet of Islam. Released in both Arabic and English, Mohammad, Messenger of God serves as an introduction to early Islamic history.

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The film follows Muhammad starting with Islam’s beginnings in Mecca in which the Muslims are persecuted, the exodus to Medina, and ending with the Muslims’ triumphant return to Mecca. A number of crucial events, such as the Battle of Badr and Battle of Uhud are depicted, and the majority of the story is told from the point-of-view of peripheral individuals such as Hamza ibn `Abd al-Muttalib (Muhammad’s uncle), Abu Sufyan (the leader of Mecca) and his wife Hind bint Utbah (enemies of Islam who later become Muslims themselves)
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In a film review, The New York Times reported that “when the film was scheduled to premier in the U.S., another Muslim extremist group staged a siege against the Washington D.C. chapter of the B’nai B’rith under the mistaken belief that Anthony Quinn played Mohammed in the film, threatening to blow up the building and its inhabitants unless the film’s opening was cancelled.
The standoff was resolved” after the deaths of a journalist and policeman, but “the film’s American box office prospects never recovered from the unfortunate controversy.”
As expected note the evils and violence that followed from the above.
Note this was in 1976, so terror and terrorism is not a new thing at present but inherent in the evil laden verses of the Quran.

Another point;

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Perhaps part of the problem, and the source of the sense that it amounts to religious propaganda, is that (as explicitly stated in another opening card) its content was vetted by an Islamic university in Cairo and something called the “High Islamic Congress of the Shiat in Lebanon”
https://moviesandbacon.com/2014/06/03/the-message/
When vetted by the above, one can expect biasness.

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Old 01-07-2017, 06:13 AM
 
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This is almost a 3 hours film.
Why should I waste my time on this as expected very bias movie that [partly] has evil potentials.
This comment proves how you perceive "evil elements" and "evil potential" without watching in full, and reading something only in part.

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Another point;

When vetted by the above, one can expect biasness.
Not even one word about how the Meccan idol worshipers had started persecuting and killing the new Muslims!

Why is it that everything said and done by Muslims is due to bias but not everything said and done by the infidels about Islam not due to bias against Islam?
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Old 01-07-2017, 04:48 PM
 
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This comment proves how you perceive "evil elements" and "evil potential" without watching in full, and reading something only in part.

Not even one word about how the Meccan idol worshipers had started persecuting and killing the new Muslims!

Why is it that everything said and done by Muslims is due to bias but not everything said and done by the infidels about Islam not due to bias against Islam?
This film is produced by Abbas Mahmoud El Akkad
It is the representation of Anthony Quinn
He did it from the lies and falsification of facts
The Mecca was an oasis of intellectual freedom amid the Arabian desert
Where they coexist various acts of worship
Islam did not eliminate the worship of pagan Mecca
Including the cult of the Black Stone
The rituals of prayer
And also the Crescent logo
Which refers to the goddess of the moon in the Lunar Religion
But the life of Muhammad
Koran is the evidence of Muhammad's personality
Especially in his relationship with women
With enemies
For this reason, the film does not represent the moral neutrality to ask personal Mohammad
It is not a failure
I saw clips of it when I was in my
And find and was in great demand among Muslims
This is why commercial success
He was a successful business to earn millions
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