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Old 05-24-2017, 11:44 AM
 
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"The first language of God is silence."
In other words, God understands the silence language too.

[13.10] Alike (to Him) among you is he who conceals (his) words and he who speaks them openly, and he who hides himself by night and (who) goes forth by day.


[5.61] And when they come to you, they say: We believe; and indeed they come in with unbelief and indeed they go forth with it; and Allah knows best what they concealed


[67.13] And conceal your word or manifest it; surely He is Cognizant of what is in the hearts.
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Old 05-24-2017, 02:03 PM
 
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God understands everything.
God is everything.
God is in everything.
God knows everything and everything is expression of its wisdom.

I understand, Khalif, what you are justifying. It is my opinion that your post is only justification. I shall have to stay with my original opinion. God's word is god's word and no human may change it. Any translation is interpretation and deviation from the original word.
I'd dare to say this is why Jewish tradition stays unchanged.
Seriously, Khalif. You are intelligent person. You should be able to agree that god's word is GOD's word - so who are we to change it somehow? If it were any god's intention for it to be in other languages, it'd have been given in those.
Btw, Tower of Babel was to separate people. With languages. Not to unite them.
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Old 05-27-2017, 09:48 AM
 
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In other words, God understands the silence language too.

[13.10] Alike (to Him) among you is he who conceals (his) words and he who speaks them openly, and he who hides himself by night and (who) goes forth by day.


[5.61] And when they come to you, they say: We believe; and indeed they come in with unbelief and indeed they go forth with it; and Allah knows best what they concealed


[67.13] And conceal your word or manifest it; surely He is Cognizant of what is in the hearts.
Thank you. In our Episcopal Christian tradition, we open our Sunday service with the words, "Almighty God to whom all hearts are open, all desires known, and from whom no secrets are hid..."
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Old 05-27-2017, 11:51 AM
 
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God understands everything.
Then He knows what is meant in each language of people.
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God is everything.
Everything that God has created is not God.
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God is in everything.
But everything is not God.
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God knows everything and everything is expression of its wisdom.
Allah has knowledge of everything.

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I understand, Khalif, what you are justifying. It is my opinion that your post is only justification.
My justification is based on what God has "said" in the Torah and the Qur'aan for "Moses".

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I shall have to stay with my original opinion. God's word is god's word and no human may change it.
Changing His word and understanding it in a different language is not the same thing.

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Any translation is interpretation and deviation from the original word.
Translation and interpretation could be either correct or incorrect but deviation is always incorrect.
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I'd dare to say this is why Jewish tradition stays unchanged.
What do you mean by "Jewish tradition".

At one time in their history, Sabbath (no work on Saturday) was not in their tradition.

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Seriously, Khalif. You are intelligent person. You should be able to agree that god's word is GOD's word - so who are we to change it somehow?
We do not change it; we only understand its meaning in different language.

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If it were any god's intention for it to be in other languages, it'd have been given in those.
Why would God address different people (all His creation) with different languages in only one language?

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Btw, Tower of Babel was to separate people. With languages. Not to unite them.
It was due to the curse that fell on the Tower of Babel that people got separated. They were supposed to be united but wouldn't obey One True God. So God separated them into families, tribes and nations to test them separately.
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Old 05-27-2017, 12:01 PM
 
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Thank you. In our Episcopal Christian tradition, we open our Sunday service with the words, "Almighty God to whom all hearts are open, all desires known, and from whom no secrets are hid..."
That's why God wants people to carry on worshiping Him in places of worship that include churches, mosques and synagogues in which His name is much remembered and praised (Qur'aan 22:40).
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