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Old 07-28-2017, 12:30 PM
 
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If Islam is not for women's rights, women will not be in Islam today.

Not everything you want is good for you. Therefore, not everything you want should be right for you. A Muslim woman has all the rights that are good for her well-being. Women in my family are not complaining about their rights.

Everyone is free to leave Islam if that's all that one wants to do. Anyone who wants to leave has already left Islam in reality.

It is not part of Islam. It is cultural and never Islamic.

My religious beliefs are concerned for humanity and life on earth. That's the purpose for human creation. I don't think you know much about my religious beliefs.
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You are deluded. Virtually everything you said here is not true. These things you state are the reasons why rational, secular societies are concerned about the possibility of Islam encroaching into their world. Either way, I'm done with this.
Everything I stated above is true.

Islam is not a problem to anyone. The problem is people who do not understand Islam but claim to know about it (both Muslims and non-muslims).
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Old 07-28-2017, 01:06 PM
 
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Everything I stated above is true.

Islam is not a problem to anyone. The problem is people who do not understand Islam but claim to know about it (both Muslims and non-muslims).
You are profoundly dishonest. It is either that or you know nothing about Islam. You have stated that individuals can leave Islam. That violates the Islamic tenets of apostasy. Do you know that or not? You state that Islam allows for women's rights then turn right around and state that Islam denies women the right to choose what they are allowed to do. Do you know what constitutes "women's rights"? It is not denying women the right to choose their own lifestyle. Maybe you aren't dishonest. Maybe you really do not put your religious belief ahead of the betterment of mankind. Maybe you are just ignorant. Either way, I can't get through and spawn any honest, rational dialogue, so what's the point?
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Old 07-29-2017, 02:21 AM
 
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You are profoundly dishonest. It is either that or you know nothing about Islam. You have stated that individuals can leave Islam. That violates the Islamic tenets of apostasy. Do you know that or not? You state that Islam allows for women's rights then turn right around and state that Islam denies women the right to choose what they are allowed to do. Do you know what constitutes "women's rights"? It is not denying women the right to choose their own lifestyle. Maybe you aren't dishonest. Maybe you really do not put your religious belief ahead of the betterment of mankind. Maybe you are just ignorant. Either way, I can't get through and spawn any honest, rational dialogue, so what's the point?
Simple!

You need to know more about Islam. Then you won't call me dishonest first then only imagine me to be dishonest.

Every word I have stated in this thread is true about Islam. Just read every single word and try to understand what I have stated. If you still disagree, argue on each point with reference from the Qur'aan to back up your point.
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Old 07-29-2017, 08:27 AM
 
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Simple!

You need to know more about Islam. Then you won't call me dishonest first then only imagine me to be dishonest.

Every word I have stated in this thread is true about Islam. Just read every single word and try to understand what I have stated. If you still disagree, argue on each point with reference from the Qur'aan to back up your point.
You are not worth arguing with.
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Old 07-29-2017, 02:16 PM
 
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You are not worth arguing with.
This Islamic forum is not for arguing. It's for learning. Please read the terms of use.

Perhaps you need to take your hate somewhere else?
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Old 07-29-2017, 05:57 PM
 
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This Islamic forum is not for arguing. It's for learning. Please read the terms of use.

Perhaps you need to take your hate somewhere else?
I have no hate for anyone. I tend to get annoyed by inividuals who are unable to comprehend the obvious. I have never said anything negative about a person based strictly on their religious belief.

The questions I pose concerning being critical of ideologies, even religious ideologies, are valid queztions.
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Old 07-29-2017, 10:09 PM
 
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I have no hate for anyone. I tend to get annoyed by inividuals who are unable to comprehend the obvious. I have never said anything negative about a person based strictly on their religious belief.

The questions I pose concerning being critical of ideologies, even religious ideologies, are valid queztions.
And when your questions were answered, this is what you came up with?

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You are not worth arguing with.
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Old 07-30-2017, 12:27 AM
 
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You are not worth arguing with.
Would it be worth arguing by you with me only if I agree with you?

Take EACH of your points, back them up with the verses of the Qur'aan.

I will agree with you if you are right and disagree with you if you are wrong. Disagreement will be backed up by the verses of the Qur'aan.

Would that not be worth you arguing about with me?
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Old 08-03-2017, 09:58 AM
 
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Not for the women in my family. It is no problem for my wife. It is no problem for my daughters.

You are not speaking for all Muslim women; are you?
I work for a Muslim family. They are engineers. The woman is the President of the company. She has advanced degrees in engineering and finance. She doesn't look too oppressed to me. She's got the corner office. As a matter of fact, her husband brags about their other son (one is an engineer who works there, the other is a pre-med student) saying, "My other son, he takes after my wife. He is the smart one." The engineer son just laughs.

Oppression of women is generally cultural, not religious. The problem is when the power system in a certain culture uses their interpretation of a religion to enforce their cultural oppression.
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Old 08-16-2017, 08:46 PM
 
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I came across this article :Islam: The world's fastest growing religion - BBC News
This isn't a hate thread on Islam or any other religion. I am all for equal rights and i like how we are distancing from an androcentrism culture, but it does worry me since it is such a radical religion...
"Spread by the sword."
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