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Old 11-03-2017, 09:12 PM
 
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So that's why you fell the need to explain me tsahal is the israelian defense force?
So if there can be a Jewish land and Jewish defence force, and a person like you, can send donations in supports, then why can't there be a Muslim land?
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Old 11-04-2017, 03:59 AM
 
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There are a lot of muslims lands.
The majority are failures where all youngs only want to imigrate to western land.
The rest rely on natural ressources.
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Old 11-04-2017, 10:44 AM
 
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There are a lot of muslims lands.
The majority are failures where all youngs only want to imigrate to western land.
The rest rely on natural ressources.
There are 49 nations that have a majority Muslim population, not one of them is a Muslim land
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Old 11-04-2017, 11:59 AM
 
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There are 49 nations that have a majority Muslim population, not one of them is a Muslim land

As we are now use to say in France:

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Old 11-04-2017, 12:38 PM
 
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Keep using them three times a day. I will pray that you get some relief.
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Old 11-05-2017, 10:56 AM
 
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There are 49 nations that have a majority Muslim population, not one of them is a Muslim land
I would say that Saudi Arabia is at least as much a "Muslim land" than Israel is a "Jewish land". Much the same could be said about a number of countries that have a Muslim majority. My own definition of a Muslim land would be one that has as sharia law as its primary form of rule of law. That would include Pakistan, Yemen, Iraq and Iran with a handful of other nations strong possibilities to fit that criteria.
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Old 11-05-2017, 11:09 AM
 
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I would say that Saudi Arabia is at least as much a "Muslim land" than Israel is a "Jewish land". Much the same could be said about a number of countries that have a Muslim majority. My own definition of a Muslim land would be one that has as sharia law as its primary form of rule of law. That would include Pakistan, Yemen, Iraq and Iran with a handful of other nations strong possibilities to fit that criteria.

The problem is more basic than that.
All muslims societies are fail. So muslims who despite everything claim islam is perfect, have for only option to said thoses are not muslim lands. The reality proof they are wrong so they must find an escape...

The same phenomen apply for communists
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Old 11-05-2017, 11:39 AM
 
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I would say that Saudi Arabia is at least as much a "Muslim land" than Israel is a "Jewish land". Much the same could be said about a number of countries that have a Muslim majority. My own definition of a Muslim land would be one that has as sharia law as its primary form of rule of law. That would include Pakistan, Yemen, Iraq and Iran with a handful of other nations strong possibilities to fit that criteria.
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The problem is more basic than that.
All muslims societies are fail. So muslims who despite everything claim islam is perfect, have for only option to said thoses are not muslim lands. The reality proof they are wrong so they must find an escape...The same phenomen apply for communists
data from 2010-2016
Muslim majority countries (or large Muslim population):

Indonesia 204,847,000 (87%)
Pakistan 213,400,000 (97%)
Bangladesh 145,312,000 (90%)
Nigeria 75,728,000 (48%)
Iran 81,000,000 (98%)
Turkey 74,660,000 (99%)
Egypt 73,746,000 (90%)
Algeria 34,780,000 (98%)
Morocco 32,381,000 (99%)
Iraq 31,108,000 (99%)
Sudan 30,855,000 (97%)
Saudi Arabia 30,770,375 (100%)
Afghanistan 29,047,000 (100%)
Ethiopia 28,721,000 (34%)
Uzbekistan 26,833,000 (97%)
Yemen 24,023,000 (99%)
Syria 20,895,000 (93%)
Malaysia 17,139,000 (61%)
Niger 15,627,000 (98%)
Somalia 10,864,733 (100%)
India 172,000,000 (14%)
China 23,308,000 (2%)
Russia 16,379,000 (12%)
Philippines 11,000,000 (11%)

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Old 11-05-2017, 11:58 AM
 
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The problem is more basic than that.
All muslims societies are fail. So muslims who despite everything claim islam is perfect, have for only option to said thoses are not muslim lands. The reality proof they are wrong so they must find an escape...

The same phenomen apply for communists
It becomes a philosophical question as to what constitutes failure. If a person is living a happy, fulfilling life, it could be argued that no matter what other circumstances there may be, he is succeeding as a person. By western standards, predominately Muslim countries are generally failures, with a few possible exceptions. Devout Muslims might consider a wealthy, atheist capitalist a failure.

The troubles arise when devout Muslims view secularist cultures as a affront to Allah, with the array of human rights in those cultures in violation of Islamic doctrine. It can be problematic if those Muslims reject the cultural standards that surround them. It can be tragic if those Muslims go so far as to take violent action on behalf of Allah.
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Old 11-05-2017, 12:41 PM
 
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I would say that Saudi Arabia is at least as much a "Muslim land" than Israel is a "Jewish land".
Wrong!

Saudi Arabia is a land owned by Saud family. A non-Saudi cannot buy any land, house, shop in Saudi Arabia even if s/he is a Muslim. How is it Muslim land if a Muslim can't buy even a small piece of that land there?

Saud family owns the lot.
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