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Old 11-20-2017, 08:35 PM
 
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Once in a while the news are filled about a group of extremist Muslims who slaughter people and commit the most unthinkable crimes under the name of Islam. ISIS is a recent example. If you ask such people that why they are committing such obvious wrong deeds and still consider it the command of the God, they would answer that they are trusting a Muslim scholar and that they receive the commands of the God through him. Based on this trust they consider the scholar's commands equivalent to the God's commands and blindly follow the scholar's instructions to make the God happy. But does not this method sound too similar to shirk, the exact opposite of Islam's primary message, which is not following anybody except the God? How did this happen? How did that origin with the most clear message came to this obvious contradictory point?

In the "Belief vs. Trust" article, we show that similarly to all modern religions, in the current understanding of Islam also believing in God is interpreted as trusting a religious package preached by the local religious scholars. After analyzing the roots of such interpretation in all religions, the article shows that key element that legitimizes the incorporation of trusting scholars into islamic practice is considering Hadith as a pillar of Islam. The current Islam which is mixed with Hadith has become so complicated that leaves an ordinary Muslim with no solution but seeking the advice of some Hadith experts (or scholars) about "what Islam says". This blind obedience creates potential for extremism: if the religious scholar is extremist, the blind followers also apply the extremism in the name of religion.

Then in the "Islam without Hadith" article, we list the pros and cons of existence of Hadith in the current Islamic practice, and show that by eliminating Hadith not only we do not lose any of the core Islamic values but also we are given the chance to rediscover the Simple Islam, the religion which guides us to nothing but reasonable, beautiful deeds. In Simple Islam, which is free from the complexities of Hadith, there is no space for religious scholars to instruct their blind followers to such unbelievable crimes. In the "Scope" article, we then revisit some of the controversial topics in Quran, such as slavery and women rights, and observe a Quran very different from what the scholars have been preaching for years.

Safdar DushanTappeh

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ):
Q1: Those are bad scholars. But I am obeying good scholars!
A: Quran warns about blind obedience. Read Section D of Trust article.
Q2: Some extremists claim obeying no scholar and just following Quran!
A: They adopted a particular perverted interpretation of Quran stemmed from Hadith and backed by past scholars. They are essentially obeying those scholar's viewpoint.
Q3: I read Quran myself. It says "kill the infidels"!
A: Taken out of context! Such verses are about a particular war with the criminals of Mecca. There were refereed to as "Kafir", which means ungrateful, as they were ungrateful for the gift of the messenger. Quran uses the word "Kafir" sometimes even for Muslims. Mainstream translations offered by scholars however translate "Kafir" as "infidel" causing this confusion.
Q4: Extremists are using perverted Hadiths. There is a huge science of telling which Hadith is reliable. I am obeying good scholars who know this science well!
A: Extremists say the same about you. The bottom line is that both of you blindly obey, and both of you think that your scholar is the right one. Read trust article about blind obedience.
Q5: Why should I trust your article? are you a scholar?
A: Do not trust people. Read their arguments and decide by yourself
Q6: Without Hadith how could we know the details of rituals?
A: Section 4 of the article Islam without Hadith
Q7: Does not Quran itself tell us to follow Hadith?
A: No. Read here.
Q8: Ignoring Hadith is ignoring Muhammad (s.a.a.w.)?
A: No. Read Hadith-less Muhammad.
Q9: Can we understand Quran without Hadith?
A: Yes. Read Quran is understandable without Hadith
Q10: Did not Quran force conversion?
A: No. Islam in Quran means meeting the God with a heart filled with peace. What Muslims did along the history has nothing to do with what Quran describes. Read Abraham was Muslim, and Islam means ...
Q11: How about Sharia?
A: Quran does not indicate any eternal universal Sharia. Read Ephemeral Sharia

Let me know if you are interested in the articles mentioned in the abstract above.

 
Old 11-20-2017, 10:27 PM
 
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In order to do this, you must repent of the cult of personality that is Islam, the only that holds Muhammad (a rapist, murderer, paedophile, and def an extremist) as an excellent example of morality.

Islam is without extremism is also without Muhammad and his teachings. This would also revert the culture to pre-Islamic polytheism.
 
Old 11-21-2017, 01:45 AM
 
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In order to do this, you must repent of the cult of personality that is Islam, the only that holds Muhammad (a rapist, murderer, paedophile, and def an extremist) as an excellent example of morality.

Islam is without extremism is also without Muhammad and his teachings. This would also revert the culture to pre-Islamic polytheism.
I am not a rapist, murderer and definitely not an extremist. I am following excellent example set by Muhammad, the messenger of Allah (peace be upon him). There are millions of men who do the same (I am not alone).

As for the original post, which was posted first in Religion and Spirituality forum, reading, understanding and pondering over the ayat of Allah (the Qur'an) is absolutely vital to understand Islam. Anyone who ignores the verses of the Qur'an is in the dark about Islam. This goes for both the Muslims and the Islam haters.
 
Old 11-21-2017, 01:51 AM
 
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Originally Posted by dushantappeh View Post
Once in a while the news are filled about a group of extremist Muslims who slaughter people and commit the most unthinkable crimes under the name of Islam. ISIS is a recent example. If you ask such people that why they are committing such obvious wrong deeds and still consider it the command of the God, they would answer that they are trusting a Muslim scholar and that they receive the commands of the God through him. Based on this trust they consider the scholar's commands equivalent to the God's commands and blindly follow the scholar's instructions to make the God happy. But does not this method sound too similar to shirk, the exact opposite of Islam's primary message, which is not following anybody except the God? How did this happen? How did that origin with the most clear message came to this obvious contradictory point?
The answer is in the Qur'an in a scene set in the hereafter:

[25.30] And the messenger cried out: O my Lord! Surely my people have treated this Qur'an as a forsaken thing.
 
Old 11-21-2017, 05:13 AM
 
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As the Originator of this thread knows, the thread in the main Religion & Spirituality forum was deleted because "We are not doing threads about violent Muslims." Maybe he thought posting the same thing in a sub-forum wouldn't be noticed.

You can read the rules at the top of the forum and see what the parameters are for posting in this forum.
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