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Old 08-09-2018, 11:58 AM
 
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Quran is the eternal miracle
In the name of Allah the Compassionate the Merciful

We can pay attention to the simple thing that is the Quran. Do you find in it an order to oppress, attack, hostility and deny the right, for anyone from the people of right litigants from the humanity? God said in the Quran (Allah enjoins justice, kindness and charity to one's kindred, and forbids indecency, wickedness and oppression, he admonishes you so that you may take heed). And as so from words , the Quran is full with them we challenge anyone to bring one verse opposite to this nice just trend
Notice: the legal legislator is unable to do that, he is a human he is not perfect as I and you are not perfect but it is the soul that inclined to the evil as it is existent inside me and you not more that his law whoever he was and in any generation he represents his personality and opinions, the result will be as this, the amendment became according to what we have said in the article (x) in the law(x). Then it is amended as so and so then they amend and amend…..why? Because the experiences proved the wrong of the first form from the article. Then they amend it and the experiences proved the wrong of the second form from the article, then they amend it and the experiences proved the wrong of the third form from the article and so till it proved their failure 100%. Glory to Allah, and it can't prove the failure of the Divine real just legislation become great Allah who put this legislation and become great the messenger of Allah
from the miracles which are famous between the legislators and Muslims the Holy Quran which is still existent my dear. It challenged all humanity from the age of messenger of Allah till the doomsday by three challenges
Second: to bring ten Surah like those in the Quran (if you couldn't to bring book like the Quran so bring ten Surahs). If you couldn't, bring one Surah even it equals to the smaller Surahs, we accept it means the evidence of Quran will fall if you did that the enemies are more in every generation till doomsday who wish to fall the evidence of Quran and Islam, let's bring Surah like Al-Kawther, Al-Nesir and Al-Ikhlas, the challenge is existent; anyone from you can try, can you? Anyone, take the pen and write! Impossible my dear, that's the meaning of inimitability, it includes Al-Sayed Mohammed Al-Sader at this moment and all the humanity Glory to Allah. This is the meaning of inimitability: The people on the deference of their cultures, minds, thoughts and societies …etc. God willing the humanity characteristic on the millions probabilities, they can't bring Surah even the smallest one (three verses, four verses) only, small not big. real anyone can bring like it then he renegades, and we are not the enemy of the truth, all of us renegade, but it will not be till the trumpet will be blown and that's enough. In the same side we heard , notice we heard the speeches of eloquent, great men , the infallibles and we heard the speeches of authors , we didn't find thing like Al-Quran, the speech of messenger of Allah is not like Al-Quran, the speech of prince of believers in Nahj Al-Balagha (way of eloquence) is existent but not like Al-Quran. The old authors like Al-Jahidh in Al-Bayan and Al-Tabien, or the narrators like Taha Hussein , Abbas Mahmoud Al-Aqqad or any one or the poets, whatever he was eloquent, suppose Ahmed Shawqi or Hafidh Ibrahim, bring with a thing like Al-Quran from near or far?! God forbid !and Messenger forbid, many attempts became to assimilate by Al-Quran whereas I brought Quran come and see the more clear and famous are two: one of them is the attempt of Musailma the liar (Allah uglified him). And the attempts of Ali Mohammed Al-Bab Allah uglified him and Al-Babiya is still existent and glorifies him and his book. My dear all writings in this matter are from comic and grievous have no bases absolutely it is not nice, I say they revealed their loins and showed their defects and lowness of their thoughts, in their miserable and low writings it doesn't like Al-Quran if it is with pleasure it doesn't like what? like the normal speech below the middle Glory to Allah whereas Allah wants to show the humanity that this imitation of the people can't reach to 1/1000 from the levels of Quran, it is impossible my dear, that's mean the Quran is miracle in every day and in each sunrise and in each sunset , in every night and every day that's the inimitability you want or reject it welcome it is existent, take a pen and write a Quran and you can't and no one can't
The reference: The fourteenth Friday/ sermon one for Al-Sayed Mohammed Al-Sader
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Old 08-16-2018, 01:06 PM
 
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Quran is the eternal miracle
In the name of Allah the Compassionate the Merciful

We can pay attention to the simple thing that is the Quran. Do you find in it an order to oppress, attack, hostility and deny the right, for anyone from the people of right litigants from the humanity? God said in the Quran (Allah enjoins justice, kindness and charity to one's kindred, and forbids indecency, wickedness and oppression, he admonishes you so that you may take heed). And as so from words , the Quran is full with them we challenge anyone to bring one verse opposite to this nice just trend
Notice: the legal legislator is unable to do that, he is a human he is not perfect as I and you are not perfect but it is the soul that inclined to the evil as it is existent inside me and you not more that his law whoever he was and in any generation he represents his personality and opinions, the result will be as this, the amendment became according to what we have said in the article (x) in the law(x). Then it is amended as so and so then they amend and amend…..why? Because the experiences proved the wrong of the first form from the article. Then they amend it and the experiences proved the wrong of the second form from the article, then they amend it and the experiences proved the wrong of the third form from the article and so till it proved their failure 100%. Glory to Allah, and it can't prove the failure of the Divine real just legislation become great Allah who put this legislation and become great the messenger of Allah
from the miracles which are famous between the legislators and Muslims the Holy Quran which is still existent my dear. It challenged all humanity from the age of messenger of Allah till the doomsday by three challenges
Second: to bring ten Surah like those in the Quran (if you couldn't to bring book like the Quran so bring ten Surahs). If you couldn't, bring one Surah even it equals to the smaller Surahs, we accept it means the evidence of Quran will fall if you did that the enemies are more in every generation till doomsday who wish to fall the evidence of Quran and Islam, let's bring Surah like Al-Kawther, Al-Nesir and Al-Ikhlas, the challenge is existent; anyone from you can try, can you? Anyone, take the pen and write! Impossible my dear, that's the meaning of inimitability, it includes Al-Sayed Mohammed Al-Sader at this moment and all the humanity Glory to Allah. This is the meaning of inimitability: The people on the deference of their cultures, minds, thoughts and societies …etc. God willing the humanity characteristic on the millions probabilities, they can't bring Surah even the smallest one (three verses, four verses) only, small not big. real anyone can bring like it then he renegades, and we are not the enemy of the truth, all of us renegade, but it will not be till the trumpet will be blown and that's enough. In the same side we heard , notice we heard the speeches of eloquent, great men , the infallibles and we heard the speeches of authors , we didn't find thing like Al-Quran, the speech of messenger of Allah is not like Al-Quran, the speech of prince of believers in Nahj Al-Balagha (way of eloquence) is existent but not like Al-Quran. The old authors like Al-Jahidh in Al-Bayan and Al-Tabien, or the narrators like Taha Hussein , Abbas Mahmoud Al-Aqqad or any one or the poets, whatever he was eloquent, suppose Ahmed Shawqi or Hafidh Ibrahim, bring with a thing like Al-Quran from near or far?! God forbid !and Messenger forbid, many attempts became to assimilate by Al-Quran whereas I brought Quran come and see the more clear and famous are two: one of them is the attempt of Musailma the liar (Allah uglified him). And the attempts of Ali Mohammed Al-Bab Allah uglified him and Al-Babiya is still existent and glorifies him and his book. My dear all writings in this matter are from comic and grievous have no bases absolutely it is not nice, I say they revealed their loins and showed their defects and lowness of their thoughts, in their miserable and low writings it doesn't like Al-Quran if it is with pleasure it doesn't like what? like the normal speech below the middle Glory to Allah whereas Allah wants to show the humanity that this imitation of the people can't reach to 1/1000 from the levels of Quran, it is impossible my dear, that's mean the Quran is miracle in every day and in each sunrise and in each sunset , in every night and every day that's the inimitability you want or reject it welcome it is existent, take a pen and write a Quran and you can't and no one can't
The reference: The fourteenth Friday/ sermon one for Al-Sayed Mohammed Al-Sader


Then how come the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is more moral and less contradictory than the Holy Quran? And it doesn't promise you a prize (everlasting life) for following its ideology - unlike the Holy Quran. It merely exhorts you to do the right thing because it is the right thing to do. No prize. Which is more moral? It is also not sexist, not homophobic, and entirely prohibits slavery (rather than mentioning slavery without condemning it, effectively condoning it).


Perfect indeed.
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Old 08-16-2018, 04:49 PM
 
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Then how come the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is more moral and less contradictory than the Holy Quran?
Universal Declaration of Human Rights goes as far as the declaration. It does not protect every human's rights. It has not protected peaceful humans from being bombed. The Qur'an is the most moral and definitely not contradictory.

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And it doesn't promise you a prize (everlasting life) for following its ideology - unlike the Holy Quran.
Nor does it promise hell fire for not following its flawed ideology.

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It merely exhorts you to do the right thing because it is the right thing to do. No prize. Which is more moral?
That's why they don't do "the right thing"; there is no prize for doing the right thing.

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It is also not sexist, not homophobic, and entirely prohibits slavery (rather than mentioning slavery without condemning it, effectively condoning it).

Perfect indeed.
Not at all! It hasn't protected your right not to pay for the wrongs done by the others. According to the Qur'an, you are responsible for what you do. If you do wrong, someone else does not pay for it. You do wrong, you pay for it.

As for it not being sexist, how long does a woman have to wait for becoming head of the United States? Almost seventy years and still counting. Even countries like Pakistan and Bangladesh have had women as the leaders. Of course millions of people in these countries believe in the Qur'an and did not prevent a woman becoming their leader.
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Old 08-17-2018, 01:29 PM
 
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Of course the Qur'an is eternal miracle (Word of Allah/God) preserved in safety forever (85:21-22).

[73.5] Surely We will make to light upon you a weighty Word.

[24.35] Allah is the light of the heavens and the earth; a likeness of His light is as a niche in which is a lamp, the lamp is in a glass, the glass is as it were a brightly shining star, lit from a blessed olive-tree, neither eastern nor western, the oil whereof almost gives light though fire touch it not-- light upon light-- Allah guides to His light whom He pleases, and Allah sets forth parables for men, and Allah is Cognizant of all things.
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Old 04-04-2019, 10:52 AM
 
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Is the Quran really eternal?
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Old 04-04-2019, 04:20 PM
 
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Is the Quran really eternal?
How is it not?
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Old 04-04-2019, 06:19 PM
 
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To be Eternal is to have no beginning, to be uncreated, but only God can be eternal and uncreated.
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Old 04-06-2019, 08:19 AM
 
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If the Quran is Eternal, is the Quran God or not-God?
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Old 04-07-2019, 05:23 AM
 
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If the Quran is Eternal, is the Quran God or not-God?
Quran is the exact word of Allah (God).
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Old 04-07-2019, 09:01 AM
 
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Does the Quran only exist as words on paper?
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