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Old 11-13-2018, 05:36 PM
 
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Over 95% of all Christian majority Countries are considered secular governments. The Roman Catholic Church is officially opposed to the separation of religion from the state government. Some countries are only considered partially secular. For example the USA is considered officially secular but celebrates ceremonial deism. As the official motto of the USA is "In God We Trust."

Roughly half of all Muslim majority Countries are considered secular governments. According to Wikipedia.

Secular states with majority Muslim populations

Albania
Azerbaijan
Bosnia-Herzegovina
Burkina Faso
Chad
Côte d'Ivoire
Guinea
Guinea-Bissau
Indonesia
Kazakhstan
Kosovo
Kyrgyzstan
Lebanon
Mali
Niger
Northern Cyprus
Senegal
Sierra Leone
Tajikistan
Turkey
Turkmenistan
Uzbekistan
West Bank

One country(Lebanon) may have a slight Muslim majority and be considered secular. But, according to some, Lebanon is considered a Christian regime because the Head of State is required to be a Catholic.

The Roman Catholic Pope does not deny that most of the world countries have secular governments. Not all Christians oppose secularism, but by and large, the Roman Catholic Church opposes secularism.

In my opinion, Secularism is very bad for religion. I think it's directly because of Secularism why things like pornography are legal in most countries around the world. Around 3.5 billion people live in a country where porn is legal. An exception to the rule is China. As China is one of the few secular countries where porn is illegal.

How could any Christian, Muslim, Jew, Buddhist, Hindu or Sikh see Religious sects being ruled by a non-religious spiritually unaffiliated government as a good thing? Secularism does not always translate to fair treatment to people of religion, as one can see from historical communist-Secularism.

Doesn't Islam in particular oppose Secularism? Or am I wrong?
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Old 11-15-2018, 10:26 PM
 
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Secularism gives them tax-breaks and filing breaks (a privileged position they would not otherwise have in some specifically theist/religious or atheist country). Legitimate Theocracies/Atheocracies would thus have to work hard to maintain concrete power and become an easy target for blame, plus they would have to spend time and money to oppress religious minorities when religion is the most fanatical, hypocritical, and airy of things.
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Old 12-13-2018, 03:49 AM
 
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There is a quite interesting discussion here about Islam and Modernity - which would include things like secularism and religion in government - here. I hope it is not a violation to link to it or mention it. But it might be an interesting conversation for many of the users of this Islam forum.

The talk itself is between an ex-muslim atheist moderator - a Shia Muslim scholar and reformist Imam - and a conservative Sunni Muslim with a degree from Harvard.

Hope it is interesting and useful! I am only 20 minutes into it myself so far and already am fascinated. And it is only part 1 of a series..
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Old 07-29-2019, 07:42 AM
 
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Yes Islam opposes secularism.
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Old 08-21-2019, 06:17 PM
 
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If by secularism you mean treating everyone equally despite having a different religion or no religion, then I wholeheartedly support it. If you mean banning religion/religious symbols, then I’m completely against it.
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Old 08-26-2019, 03:48 PM
 
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Please pardon my ignorance. I am not Muslim. Having just read the rules for posting on this Muslim forum, I am surprised that this post which mentions Christianity is even permitted.

My limited knowledge of Islam is that Christianity and Judaism are recognized as monotheistic religions, and tolerated as inferior interpretations, while idolatry is clearly outlawed. I do not know where atheism fits into this, nor a secular government (which the US government isn't completely, but close to it).

I welcome clarification from Muslims and moderators, both.
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Old Today, 01:56 PM
 
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Originally Posted by AlwaysByChance View Post
Over 95% of all Christian majority Countries are considered secular governments. The Roman Catholic Church is officially opposed to the separation of religion from the state government. Some countries are only considered partially secular.

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The Roman Catholic Pope does not deny that most of the world countries have secular governments. Not all Christians oppose secularism, but by and large, the Roman Catholic Church opposes secularism.

In my opinion, Secularism is very bad for religion. I think it's directly because of Secularism why things like pornography are legal in most countries around the world. Around 3.5 billion people live in a country where porn is legal. An exception to the rule is China. As China is one of the few secular countries where porn is illegal.

How could any Christian, Muslim, Jew, Buddhist, Hindu or Sikh see Religious sects being ruled by a non-religious spiritually unaffiliated government as a good thing? Secularism does not always translate to fair treatment to people of religion, as one can see from historical communist-Secularism.

Doesn't Islam in particular oppose Secularism? Or am I wrong?
I’m not sure where you get that The Catholic Church opposes Secularism or the separation of Church and State?

See the Catechism:

THE AUTHORITIES IN CIVIL SOCIETY
Catechism of the Catholic Church - PART 3 SECTION 2 CHAPTER 2 ARTICLE 4

AUTHORITY
Catechism of the Catholic Church - PART 3 SECTION 1 CHAPTER 2 ARTICLE 2
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