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Old 05-03-2008, 12:12 AM
juj
 
Location: Too far from MSG
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juj,
your personal assaults are tedious, let this thread be about Islam.
A little tolerance wouldn't hurt you.
I am very tolerant to intelligent discussion and I am not tolerant to the non-stop anti-Christian drivel. Everytime I pin a Islam solicitor on this board about the intensely violent Quran passages and their meaning, the atheists give me drivel and the Muslims are silent. And if this thread is about Islam, why are you on it?
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Old 05-03-2008, 02:28 AM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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Originally Posted by juj
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I am very tolerant to intelligent discussion and I am not tolerant to the non-stop anti-Christian drivel.
Actually you are only saying that people who agree with you are intelligent and that people who disagree with you can only be anti-Christian.
Because once people appropriately critique (American) Christianity you immediately label them as anti-Christian.
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Old 05-03-2008, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by juj Actually you are only saying that people who agree with you are intelligent and that people who disagree with you can only be anti-Christian.
Because once people appropriately critique (American) Christianity you immediately label them as anti-Christian.
See, there you go again. You guys are like politicians who duck and jive when answering a question. You use the oldest trick in the book: You answer a question with a question.

I ask a Muslim what is the meaning and purpose of a violent verse, and the the chiefgirl's and the TrickyD's of the world jump in and ask me why Christianity is so violent. Duck and jive. How about a real answer to my question? Since, you guys always jump in the on the Islamic threads, you must be experts. So how about an answer. Oh wait, you guys are atheists so you spend all your time researching and discussing why God doesn't exist. Well, maybe you should answer those threads. Yea, I think that would be a brilliant idea. Brilliant!
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Old 05-03-2008, 09:20 AM
 
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See, there you go again. You guys are like politicians who duck and jive when answering a question. You use the oldest trick in the book: You answer a question with a question.
I never asked a question, I only concluded that you find me anti-Christian simply because I do not share your opinion.
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Old 05-03-2008, 11:50 AM
 
Location: The world, where will fate take me this time?
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And you learned nothing. I don't necessarily agree with the link either, but I am tired of these folks getting on here and telling us how peacful their religion is. It is clearly not. What's worse is simple minded folks who get on and then say thanks for telling them about this beautiful peaceful religion without doing one ounce of research.
Imho with due respect your posts show how simple your mind is, you clearly don't know anything about islam besides bashing them.

you haven't even took the time to do some comprehensive study of what you are bashing or try to understand the messages behind the sacred texts.

You could be a true Christian and give an example of how love and tolerance are the most powerful force in the world, but you prefer to do the workings of the devil and attack people who just come to this forum to share their religion with the rest of the people of the forum, because according to your views it is a violent religion, this clearly shows how limited is your own understanding of Christianism, or how simplistic are your insights on religion and spirituality.
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Old 05-03-2008, 06:11 PM
 
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I'd like for the Islam supporters/apologists on this board to name one thing that backwards religion/culture/political ideaology has contributed to the world in the last 1,000 years. For instance,

Do they invent anything?
Do they manufacture anything (besides IED's and bomb vests)?
Do they contribute to the arts or just destroy it? (Buddha statues in Afghanistan come to mind and the silly Danish cartoons, as well.)
Do they aid other countries during natural disasters?
Do they stand for individual freedoms and freethought?
Have they advanced medical science to any degree?
Do they assimilate to other cultures when they move into your neighborhood? (better ask the europeans that one; might not like the answer)

Most importantly:
Are they tolerant to other religions and beliefs?

That's easy: NO
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Old 05-03-2008, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by juj I never asked a question, I only concluded that you find me anti-Christian simply because I do not share your opinion.
If it walks like a duck.....
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Old 05-03-2008, 07:52 PM
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Imho with due respect your posts show how simple your mind is, you clearly don't know anything about islam besides bashing them.

you haven't even took the time to do some comprehensive study of what you are bashing or try to understand the messages behind the sacred texts.

You could be a true Christian and give an example of how love and tolerance are the most powerful force in the world, but you prefer to do the workings of the devil and attack people who just come to this forum to share their religion with the rest of the people of the forum, because according to your views it is a violent religion, this clearly shows how limited is your own understanding of Christianism, or how simplistic are your insights on religion and spirituality.
I am attacking no one. I just want an Islamic expert to give the Muslim explanation for the some of the Surah violent texts. Again, the drivel....zzzzzz.

How about if you are not going to answer the previous question. Don't comment. "That would be terrific." (Office Space) The next comment please be a Muslim answering the question. Thank you and good night.

Last edited by juj; 05-03-2008 at 08:04 PM..
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Old 05-03-2008, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Metro DC
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"Fudoshin1115 I'd like for the Islam supporters/apologists on this board to name one thing that backwards religion/culture/political ideaology has contributed to the world in the last 1,000 years. For instance,

Do they invent anything?
Do they manufacture anything (besides IED's and bomb vests)?
Do they contribute to the arts or just destroy it? (Buddha statues in Afghanistan come to mind and the silly Danish cartoons, as well.)
Do they aid other countries during natural disasters?
Do they stand for individual freedoms and freethought?
Have they advanced medical science to any degree?
Do they assimilate to other cultures when they move into your neighborhood? (better ask the europeans that one; might not like the answer)

In response to the question about art, its Arabesque art...and is against their beliefs to depict someone in art...the art is seen in just about every aspect of Islamic life, and is very beautiful.

They are tolerant to other beliefs, and it is part of Muslim faith to not harm their Abrahamic brothers, Christians and Jews. However, we are bombarded with radical Muslims who commit acts of terror which are not justified, and MOST Muslims do not want to kill all Christians
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Old 05-03-2008, 11:27 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Fudoshin1115
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I'd like for the Islam supporters/apologists on this board to name one thing that backwards religion/culture/political ideaology has contributed to the world in the last 1,000 years.
LoL you truly don't know history do ya?
The concept of zero is invented by the Arabs. How do you wanna reach the digital age without the number 0?
The Arabs also invented the analogue computer, the parachute, flight controls, artificial wings, the artificially-powered manned rocket, astronauts & space exploration, camera technology, coffee and many other things.
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