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Old 05-05-2008, 02:47 PM
 
Location: egypt
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That is an incorrect statement. The war was not against Muslims. And, that was made very clear from the very beginning.

As to your question why the Americans are still in Iraq? It is because of the Islamic terrorists who are choosing, in the name of Islam, to bomb Mosques, Schools, Markets - targeting innocent civilians.

If they were to stop there terrorists actions, the United States Military would be withdrawn in very short order.

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In a statement that directly echoed George Bush, Qasim Daoud, Iraq's interim minister of state for national security, told a news conference at the weekend: "Mission accomplished ... Falluja has been liberated". He proudly recited the list of the dead - 1,400 terrorists, foreigners and Saddamists. And what about civilians, the women and children trapped in the fighting zone. Any casualties? He avoided the question.

Will they survive the US military's wrath? Many will not. The execution-style killing of the wounded Iraqi inside a mosque by a US marine, captured by NBC television, was one of many, according to an eyewitness interviewed by al-Jazeera television yesterday.

The plight of the people of Falluja is not unique. Since the nominal handover of sovereignty on June 30, we have witnessed an escalation of Israeli-style collective punishment of Iraqi cities. Civilian carnage, coupled with enormous damage to homes and infrastructure, has became our daily reality.

In Tall Afar, in the north, US troops cut off water for three days last month and blocked food supplies to 150,000 refugees. Then in Samarra, residents cowered in their homes as tanks and warplanes pounded the city. Bodies were strewn in the streets but could not be collected for fear of American snipers. Of the 130 Iraqis killed, most were civilians. Hospital access was denied to the injured. And Qasim Daoud hailed the massacre as a "very clean" operation.
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Old 05-05-2008, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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elwill - please, I would like to hear your defense for the Islamic terrorists, in the name of Allah, strapping bombs onto innocent children, sending them into a marketplace, and then blowing them up -

Please, give us some sort of defense for these actions
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Old 05-05-2008, 02:57 PM
 
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elwill - please, I would like to hear your defense for the Islamic terrorists, in the name of Allah, strapping bombs onto innocent children, sending them into a marketplace, and then blowing them up -

Please, give us some sort of defense for these actions
i respond to that clearly in post # 59
let me quote it for you
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the actions ot terrerists against innocent are not acts we proud of , and it isn't islamic teaching , it's passion's crimes
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Old 05-05-2008, 03:12 PM
 
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You should do a little thinking for yourself. If a Muslim is doing the killing, it's alright. But if it's a predominantly Christian nation killing mostly terrorists and trying to minimize colateral damage to innocent folks, then you are angry.
who is the terrorist ? i mean when you judge on someone that he is terrorist ?
i'm not angry for killing terrorists . but you invades whole country not kill terrorists , beside you hurt and killed more civilians than who you consider them terrorists

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Where were you when Sadam was killing innocent Muslims? Turning the other cheek just like the rest of the Islamic world.
niether me nor you knew that before , these things are discovered after the invade of iraq

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At least America tried to help the innocent people of Iraq and we had to come thousands of miles to do it while all the neighboring Muslim countries did nothing.
so you claim that iraq now more happy and more peace after america helping ?
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Having said all that, I appreciate your candor elwill because you are the first Muslim I have encountered on this board that is willing to discuss the situations with the Muslim world whether good or bad.
you are wellcome anytime
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Old 05-05-2008, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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i respond to that clearly in post # 59
let me quote it for you
Yet - they quote Islam - the Koran. They praise Allah - they do it in the name of religion.
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Old 05-05-2008, 03:14 PM
 
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so you claim that iraq now more happy and more peace after america helping ?
When I was on the streets of Baghdad, I was thanked by the Iraqi people. And, I was a civilian.
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Old 05-05-2008, 03:20 PM
 
Location: egypt
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Yet - they quote Islam - the Koran. They praise Allah - they do it in the name of religion.
may be , but it dosn't mean that they are right
you can know the teaches of our relegions from our sources , not from actions of some muslims in unstable country as iraq .

by the way . there were no bombers suicide against innocents before the invades of USA
it makes me think that it isn't islamic reaction , it is reactions caused of political events
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Old 05-05-2008, 03:25 PM
 
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by the way . there were no bombers suicide against innocents before the invades of USA
it makes me think that it isn't islamic reaction , it is reactions caused of political events
No - you merely had Saddam exterminating people - his own people -
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Old 05-05-2008, 03:28 PM
 
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When I was on the streets of Baghdad, I was thanked by the Iraqi people. And, I was a civilian.
yes i saw that in television , sadam wasn't favorite for all Iraq's people ,so that may be they were happy for that .
they thought that you will bring the peace for country , but the situation now isn't better than saddam , actually its worst
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Old 05-05-2008, 03:47 PM
 
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Tell me about christian religious who are serial killers quoting the bible; christian people who quote the bible when they kill others who are not serial killers, just killers. What's the difference?

I would suppose that there are wacked out religious of all colors. Why do the christians deny that this occurs, yet blame all Muslims?

What about the war in Bosnia? Is that not christian?
Bush said that god told him to attack Iraq.

You want to judge an entire major world religion on a small percentage of wackaloons? Then don't complain when I start attacking all christians based on the action of your wackaloons. Quid pro quo; you don't like it at all. I hear people on this board complain about "not real christians" all the time. You're now officially all the same: moderates, wackaloons, evangelicals, etc.

Don't forget your jesus' saying: whatsoever you do to the least of my brethern, you do also to me.
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