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Old 05-01-2008, 12:34 PM
 
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Astronomers found that the moon’s movement is 18 kilometers per second, while the Earth’s is 15 kilometers and the sun’s is 12 kilometers .
The sun, earth & moon all move & the distance between them is stable and regularized.
This was explained in the Holy Quran fourteen centuries ago.
The Holy Quran says “And the sun Runs his course for a period determined for him: that is the decree of (Him) the exalted in Might, the All Knowing. And the moon we have measured for her Mansions (to traverse) Till she returns like the old (and withered) lower part of a date – stalk. It is not permitted to the sun to catch up the moon, nor can the night outstrip the day: Each (just) swims along in (its own orbit) (According to Law) [36:38-40].
Here Allah the Excelled in might says “And the sun runs his course for a period determined for him” Then He says “ It is not permitted to the sun to catch-up the moon”.
This means that the moon is meant to be before the sun where as the sun runs and can not catch up it. Because the speed of the moon is 18 kilometers & that of the earth is 15 kilometers while that of the sun is 12 kilometers. No matter how fast the sun move, it will not overtake the moon. But what makes the moon retain its mansions while it can leave them? The astronomers found that the moon runs in a zigzag swing and not in a straightforward line. The moon runs in this manner to retain its mansions and locations.
In this manner Allah the only creator organized and systemized the orbiting & more movements of all of them so that they retain their orbiting traces & do not depart them.
Therefore, we have the regular succession of Night & Daytime, seasons etc….
Don’t you think it is an excellent determination?
Is it possible that it has come only by chance?
No, it has not come by chance because chance cannot create such excellent & systematic norms of the universe.
Allah has created all this & creates this systemic cosmic norms.

Source: “The Age of Faith has dawned” By: Shaikh Abdel Majeed Elzindani


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Old 03-09-2010, 05:44 AM
 
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Maashaa Allaah. Well said.

Allah, Glorified and Highest said in Quran: "And in truth We have made the Qur'an easy to remember; but is there any that remembereth?
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Old 03-09-2010, 10:47 AM
 
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It is too bad that Muslims scholars put aside science for, shall we say, less productive pursuits.
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Old 03-09-2010, 10:54 AM
 
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Yes, 14 centuries ago Islam was a fount of education and scientific exploration.


What happened guys?
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Old 03-09-2010, 11:23 AM
 
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Yes, 14 centuries ago Islam was a fount of education and scientific exploration.


What happened guys?

Dr. Maurice Bucaille
http://www.islamhouse.com/d/files/en...rn_science.pdf (http://www.islamhouse.com/d/files/en/ih_books/signal/en_quran_modern_science.pdf - broken link)



http://www.islamhouse.com/d/files/en/ih_books/signal/en_Quran_and_Modern_Science.pdf
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Old 03-09-2010, 12:30 PM
 
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Yes, 14 centuries ago Islam was a fount of education and scientific exploration.


What happened guys?
This is what happened....


YouTube - AC-130 Gunships
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Old 03-09-2010, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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The sun, earth & moon all move & the distance between them is stable and regularized.
I don't know what to say, well other than.......

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
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Old 03-09-2010, 01:30 PM
 
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More accurately, ancient Islamic scholars were observant and realized some of astronomy's secrets. That does not prove Islam. The relative and stable positions of stars and planets occurs because they fell in to stable positions. If they had been in unstable positions, they would have re-positioned themselves. This is obvious and common-sense: stability seeks itself, of course. But now come apologist glory-seeking people who try to claim such "perfection" indicates a divine intervention. Hardly. Unstable conditions do not remain in place, obviously.

The point about Islam's lost scholarly attitude is well taken. What happened? Why the current hostile mentality in lieu of honest objective study? The West is NOT the enemy, guys! Your own greedy theocracy is. Rise up and supress them, not us!
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Old 03-09-2010, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
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I wonder if you understand what chance is. Like the word random, it doesn't mean something just popped out of nowhere for no reason. It's like a placeholder word for what we don't currently know. Your examples can be explained by the laws that govern the universe. Another flaw in your argument is that you make some weird assumption that the sun is chasing the moon. How is that even possible? The earth revolves around the sun.
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Old 03-10-2010, 02:24 PM
 
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Astronomers found that the moon’s movement is 18 kilometers per second, while the Earth’s is 15 kilometers and the sun’s is 12 kilometers .
The sun, earth & moon all move & the distance between them is stable and regularized.
This was explained in the Holy Quran fourteen centuries ago.
The Holy Quran says “And the sun Runs his course for a period determined for him: that is the decree of (Him) the exalted in Might, the All Knowing. And the moon we have measured for her Mansions (to traverse) Till she returns like the old (and withered) lower part of a date – stalk. It is not permitted to the sun to catch up the moon, nor can the night outstrip the day: Each (just) swims along in (its own orbit) (According to Law) [36:38-40].
Here Allah the Excelled in might says “And the sun runs his course for a period determined for him” Then He says “ It is not permitted to the sun to catch-up the moon”.
This means that the moon is meant to be before the sun where as the sun runs and can not catch up it. Because the speed of the moon is 18 kilometers & that of the earth is 15 kilometers while that of the sun is 12 kilometers. No matter how fast the sun move, it will not overtake the moon. But what makes the moon retain its mansions while it can leave them? The astronomers found that the moon runs in a zigzag swing and not in a straightforward line. The moon runs in this manner to retain its mansions and locations.
In this manner Allah the only creator organized and systemized the orbiting & more movements of all of them so that they retain their orbiting traces & do not depart them.
Therefore, we have the regular succession of Night & Daytime, seasons etc….
Don’t you think it is an excellent determination?
Is it possible that it has come only by chance?
No, it has not come by chance because chance cannot create such excellent & systematic norms of the universe.
Allah has created all this & creates this systemic cosmic norms.

Source: “The Age of Faith has dawned” By: Shaikh Abdel Majeed Elzindani



may allah reward you my pro.

certainly, All of modern science from the source of Islam

look at abud adam kuhil's site of the miracles in the Koran and Hadith

It is worth meditating .....


http://kaheel7.com/eng/



jmoool


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