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Old 07-16-2010, 02:38 PM
 
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Really , Completely, Fully,it applied ON men that was in iran before a few years



thanks
WOW, whoop-dee-doo, millions of followers...is this a contest to you? I don't care AT ALL how many follow Islam, Catholicism, any of it. IMO it's all fairytales and mind control.

One post you're hoping we can all get along, the next you try to fight and defend archaic religious laws based solely on NUMBERS??

Forget it.

Either produce the evidence**** that Iran EXECUTED MEN, in the same numbers (since numbers mean so much to you) as WOMEN are executed NOW...for ADULTERY....or please stop with the lame "oh, but Islam has many followers, see these numbers, arent they miraculous..."

**** Evidence, as in verifiable stories, statistics. If we can produce scores of verifiable human rights violations mitigated upon Muslim women in the name of sharia, you can at least attempt do the same showing how despicably Muslim men are suffering. Mmkay?




(Methinks this will be a looooong wait.)
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Old 07-16-2010, 03:09 PM
 
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Well, they do stone men as well as women, but I suspect far more women meet that fate...Google even tries to correct my search ...Did you mean: muslim woman stoned to death

Warning ...Do not watch the videos unless you have a strong stomach. They are gruesome.

Google... "muslim men stoned to death"

The above example of Sharia, should upset anybody...
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Old 07-16-2010, 04:33 PM
 
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what about your torah then ?

My religious tradition is not up for discussion because I do not say it is right and everyone else is wrong. On the contrary I say we all are children of G-d. I do not need to prove a thing because I understand their are many religions and we follow the path that is right for us. Only those who need to believe they have the only truth want others to prove the truthfulness of what they believe.
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Old 07-16-2010, 07:47 PM
 
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Again, I ask of any muslims here....what do you want in the US with regard to sharia? Do you want sharia to be codified and enforced by the government?
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Old 07-17-2010, 05:11 AM
 
Location: NZ Wellington
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Well, they do stone men as well as women, but I suspect far more women meet that fate...Google even tries to correct my search ...Did you mean: muslim woman stoned to death

Warning ...Do not watch the videos unless you have a strong stomach. They are gruesome.

Google... "muslim men stoned to death"

The above example of Sharia, should upset anybody...

YouTube - Stop the Stoning of Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani (Free to Mirror]
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Old 07-17-2010, 06:12 AM
 
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It just blows my mind that there are people who support sharia. It is even more upsetting that there are people who support stoning, hanging, beheading or any other barbaric, cruel forms of execution. What comes to my mind is where is the humanity of people who condone such treatment of others. These acts hurt my heart they are so barbaric yet I know in muslim countries not only are they carried out but in the case of stoning the population helps do it. I ask again of the Muslims here where is your humanity, empathy, and soul because in my book to support any of this means those are in question.
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Old 07-17-2010, 12:21 PM
 
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I did not say take my law, just I Correct what you have of mistaken ideas about shariah I do not care to be convinced or not ...You are free


I SAY WHAT IT IS AS IT, NO MORE

If non-Muslims were oppressed in Muslim countries why you find MOST of them our countries, you Find thousands of Jews, Christians, Hindus have here,So You find them enjoying, Their rights fully Americans..Europeans ..etc


When I spoke about Zakat even To show you that Jizya not Suppress it is as Zakat Imposed on Muslims as Taxes on Americans
You can lie by speaking an untruth, but you also lie when implying something that deliberately misleads people.

The Muslim countries whose people are prosperous are so because of oil money and not the religion.

Non Muslims in countries like Saudi Arabia have their reading materials censored are not allowed to wear small crosses and periodically cannot even import bibles into the country.

Obviously, the Muslim religion is fearful of competition.

Gosh, a woman cannot even fly to another country without her husband's consent. What screwed up thinking!

There are some sort of decency police who beat women in public if they do not wear a veil or if their arms are showing, etc.

A person would have to not be thinking clearly to wonder why Sharia is found repulsive in Western countries. It is archaic. It will fail, probably the minute that we decide to use sources for energy other than oil.

Jews in no way actively try to recruit all into their religion. They also do not try to impose their religious laws upon the Western countries they are in.

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Old 07-17-2010, 02:28 PM
 
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i argued many times in many forums about sharia in islam .
but all of them focused on why we impose islamic laws on nonmuslims
so i want for this discussion to be quite different here

my question is , if sharia law not contradict with commands of God of other relegions , why you deny it ?
is it because it's islamic ? or because it's issues oppose your relegion ?


so, what do you think sharia is ?


YouTube - US born Noor Nishan and her escape from Islam in America


YouTube - U.S. Muslim Beheads Wife. Sharia Law and Honor Killings in America, What's Next!


YouTube - Islamic Honor Killings in America(Part 2 of 4)
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Old 07-17-2010, 04:00 PM
 
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i argued many times in many forums about sharia in islam .
but all of them focused on why we impose islamic laws on nonmuslims
so i want for this discussion to be quite different here

my question is , if sharia law not contradict with commands of God of other relegions , why you deny it ?
is it because it's islamic ? or because it's issues oppose your relegion ?


so, what do you think sharia is ?

We deny it because the laws of the land ought NOT to be religious laws. There should be a division between religion and government.

We deny Sharia because it is barbaric, and violent.

We deny Sharia because we DO NOT want to live under it.

Why do you keep arguing?

You have your answer.

If you want to live under Islamic law go to an islamic country that has religious law governing its country.

You could go to Afghanistan and live under the taliban, or Saudia Arabia and live under the rules of the kingdom, or to Samalia they are trying to form a government under Sharia. They all sound like places any sharia loving person would want to go.

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Old 07-17-2010, 04:17 PM
 
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We deny it because the laws of the land ought NOT to be religious laws. There should be a division between religion and government.

We deny Sharia because it is barbaric, and violent.

We deny Sharia because we DO NOT want to live under it.

Why do you keep arguing?

You have your answer.

If you want to live under Islamic law go to an islamic country that has religious law governing its country.

You could go to Afghanistan and live under the taliban, or Saudia Arabia and live under the rules of he kingdom, or to Samalia they are trying to form a government under Sharia. They all sound like places any sharia loving person would want to go.
Amen. Sharia is a barbaric, stone age, uncivilized deen that violates human rights and decency and intrudes into the private lives of people . It imposes barbarous punishments in the name of their IMPOTENT God . . . who apparently NEEDS weak and autocratic humans to enforce His laws!
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