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Old 04-11-2009, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Seattle metro, WA, US
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One HUGE fundamental difference is that Islamic (Muslim) followers not only believe and trust in their faith, but their religious leaders as well. The same is not so for Christians. Christians pick which sect of Christianity works best for them and their social life choices (Lutheran, Catholic, Protestant, Presbyterian, etc.).
Same with Islam. There is Sunni, there is Shia which iteslf has dozens of flavors, there is Sufi which itself has thousands of flavors. There is no pope counterpart in any flavors of Islam: there is no kalifa anymore, no central human authority figure all Muslims of a brand acknowledge and follow. There are ulems, imams, pirs, ayatollahs and such, but none of them enjoy universal support; except for ayatollahs, their influence is limited to a small community, often just one single mosque or a Sufi house. Qur'an is very complicated phenomenon: in Arabic it's hands down beautiful poetry which strikes you in awe once you get it, from the very first words of the Opening Sura. It's so powerful that one wants to repeat it over and over again. Since most Muslims mother language is not Arabic, they can't enjoy the full power of the original writing unless they study hard which many do. But that means that every individual essentially have their own interpetation of Islam, that makes every family a sect with its own set of yeahs and nays on each issue. Again, not much different from any other religion: in the end it comes to an individual, how the individual interprets the idea of god applied to making decisions in life.

As of the range of concrete interpretations to making decisions, in the same Qur'an, for example, the verses (ayats) 9:3 through 9:5, can be interpreted as the call to kill all unfaithful "wherever you find them", "once your treaties with them have expired". That leaves wide room for all kinds of intepretations: what exactly "unfaithful" (mushrikun) means, is it a non-muslim of your particular brand, or non-muslim of any brand, or not "people of the book" which includes Jewish and Christians or not beliver in one single god (monotheist) and so forth. What kind of "kill" - is it "killing" in sense of taking life or figuratively, killing them in your soul == rejecting them, not socalizing in them? Or socializing but not seriously, not deeply? What kind of treaties, what expiration? The range of those details gives us the difference of those who fly planes into buildings and blow up buses to those who don't have a problem of having a glass of wine with a Christian or a Jew or an Atheist...

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Old 08-02-2009, 05:53 PM
 
Location: state of enlightenment
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Islam is like any other religion - just another pack of lies, myths, delusions, superstitions, fairy tales and rules used to control people. Although I must say Islam has taken barbarism to a new level. Christians at least stopped public beheadings, stonings, burning at the stake, suicide attacks quite a while ago but in Islamic countries it's a daily occurrence. Muslims are bound and determined to stay in the Middle Ages.
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Old 08-02-2009, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Pawnee Nation
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insha allah, the ummah will come soon....islam is a most beautiful religion
Islam is an abomination before God
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Old 08-02-2009, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Western Cary, NC
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The answer seems hard to find. Wikipedia seemed to break it down to both percentage growth and number of converts, but they think the data is not sufficient to make a clear statement.
The Carnegie Endowment listed Islam as the fastest growth rate in the world based on percentage (1.84%) due to high birth rates. They had problems getting data in the war areas and thought they had inflated numbers.
The list for religions by percentage went Islam 1.84%, Baha’i Faith 1.70% Sikhism 1.62%, Hinduism 1.57%, and Christianity at 1.32%
The confusion now starts with the numbers of converts, and where the converts come from. Christians had a growth rate of 1.32% and listed high birth rates as the main reason, but their numbers were the highest.
The numbers for Buddhism listed were regional and showed a 79.1% growth rate, but again only covered one region.
Deism in the US grew at an astounding rate of 717% but still only made up .02% of the population.
Wicca grew at a 143% which amounted to 11,454converts.

The non religious grew by 15,100,000 in the US from 1990 to 2001. That gave them 14.1% of the US population but now polls show them at 16%, but they are not a religion so don't count.

Make me want to agree with Wikipedia. “Whilst it is possible to find claims that almost any religion is the fastest growing, it is much harder to find ones backed up by scientific data.”
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Old 08-02-2009, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Pawnee Nation
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Don't forget, that in Muslim country's it is an executable offense to convert from Muslim to anything else. So there are a lot of Muslims in Name Only that list their faith as that simply because they are not allowed to say anything else, nor are they allowed to hear any other message nor are they allowed to think for themselves. In a free society their growth is minuscule. More people prefer not to believe anything than that travesty of a faith.
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Old 08-03-2009, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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it's obvious that Islam is the most growing religion in the world right now,and its looks like cuz alot of ppl are starting to search and read about Islam ,not like before just judging it by what they see in the news and media
some ppl just have to read about Islam before talking or judging it ,
And your point is?
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Old 08-03-2009, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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Islam is like any other religion - just another pack of lies, myths, delusions, superstitions, fairy tales and rules used to control people. Although I must say Islam has taken barbarism to a new level. Christians at least stopped public beheadings, stonings, burning at the stake, suicide attacks quite a while ago but in Islamic countries it's a daily occurrence. Muslims are bound and determined to stay in the Middle Ages.
No beheadings by Christians ? Christian pilots do a whole lot worse than beheading when they drop bombs on sleeping villagers. (just following orders, but sky daddy said "thou shalt not kill")
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Old 08-03-2009, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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Islam is an abomination before God
I have never met a bad Muslim. I found them to be polite, and gracious hosts.
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Old 08-03-2009, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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I have never met a bad Muslim. I found them to be polite, and gracious hosts.
It is just like every other religion, they are out there, obviously.
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:22 PM
 
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