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Old 07-02-2008, 09:24 AM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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Originally Posted by camping!
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If you are trying to make a case that all prolife people are bombers ---- then you are wrong. If you are trying to make the case that prolifers accept and defend bombers ----- then you are wrong.
So you are saying that there are no Christian fanatics who use physical violence?
Here I thought that America had been bombed by a few Christian fanatics?
I guess this all is conveniently forgotten because of 9/11?
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Old 07-02-2008, 09:27 AM
juj
 
Location: Too far from MSG
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A dog is one of the most courageous, loyal, and loveable animal that exists. They are used for protection, helping the blind, bomb detection, drug detection, helping the elderly, tracking criminals, riot control, hunting, entertainment, and also have been used in wars. They also have the power to lower blood pressure in their owners. They are companions to lonely people of all ages. You can kick them and they will come back and wag their tail and lick your face. Bottom line, they give you unconditional love that many people don't get elsewhere.

What's not to like?
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Old 07-02-2008, 09:32 AM
 
Location: southern california
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nothin wrong with islamic sense of respect for god. people here have gotten so used to wiping their feet on christians it just seems unnatural when someone resists.

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Old 07-02-2008, 10:28 AM
 
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Originally Posted by camping!So you are saying that there are no Christian fanatics who use physical violence?
Here I thought that America had been bombed by a few Christian fanatics?
I guess this all is conveniently forgotten because of 9/11?
Moderator cut: Personal Attack When you start to selectively quote me ---- do you really think I am going to forget what I wrote?
But hey -- please enlighten me...show me where I said that there are no christian fanatics. Show me where I 'forgot' that any abortion clinics had been bombed. You can't. You could pull up posts in this very thread were I talked about the few abortion clinics that were bombed, by one guy who is now in jail. I have talked about christian extrememists that do not represent the whole --- not by a long shot.

Ah, whats the use? You'll only cut and post a small portion of this.....anything to justify an incredibly weak hatred for the US, right oh tolerant one?

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Old 07-02-2008, 10:47 AM
 
Location: egypt
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Originally Posted by juj View Post
A dog is one of the most courageous, loyal, and loveable animal that exists. They are used for protection, helping the blind, bomb detection, drug detection, helping the elderly, tracking criminals, riot control, hunting, entertainment, and also have been used in wars. They also have the power to lower blood pressure in their owners. They are companions to lonely people of all ages. You can kick them and they will come back and wag their tail and lick your face. Bottom line, they give you unconditional love that many people don't get elsewhere.

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we agree with you on all you said , we didnt prohibit to use a dogs for such a thing
but your question , what is wrong with dogs in islamic view ?
i was hope that people ask us this question before condemn islam for such a thing

muslims are encouraged to be kind to all animals. However, it is recommended that they not be kept inside the house as we need praying areas clean and if a dog has been walking around and drooling, then this voids the ablution we do before our prayers. It is permissable to touch and rub dogs but it has been scientifically proven thats dog's saliva contains millions of bad bacteria, hence we are discouraged from touching anywhere near their mouths. And we always have to wash our hands thoroughly after handling any animal

there are many hadiths that call for showing kindness to animals in general, including dogs, and the permissibility of keeping dogs for hunting, guarding, etc.

Adding to this is the hadith in which the Prophet (pbuh) told his companions a story concerning a man who found a dog in the desert panting and licking the dust due to thirst. The man went to a well, filled his shoes with water, and relieved the dog's thirst. Said the messenger of Allah (pbuh):
‘Allah appreciated this and forgave him all his sins.’ (Reported by al-Bukhari)
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Old 07-02-2008, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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muslims outraged 35,600 hits
christians outraged 2,990 hits
jews outraged 2.060 hits
buddhists outraged 24 hits
catholics outraged 11,500 hits

pretty simple math.
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Old 07-02-2008, 01:35 PM
 
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muslims outraged 35,600 hits
christians outraged 2,990 hits
jews outraged 2.060 hits
buddhists outraged 24 hits
catholics outraged 11,500 hits

pretty simple math.
The defense submits the following as evidence:

The phrase George W Bush Greatest President Ever received 2,390,000 hits.

Pretty simple math huh?

Sadly.. Bigthirsty greatest poster ever only received 3 hits..
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Old 07-02-2008, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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are you trying to say that there isn't a bias when it comes to muslims? give me an example of a religion that whines and complains more than they do.

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The defense submits the following as evidence:

The phrase George W Bush Greatest President Ever received 2,390,000 hits.

Pretty simple math huh?

Sadly.. Bigthirsty greatest poster ever only received 3 hits..
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Old 07-02-2008, 02:03 PM
 
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are you trying to say that there isn't a bias when it comes to muslims? give me an example of a religion that whines and complains more than they do.
No. I'm trying to say that counting the number of hits provides no useful conclusions in this scenario (unless of course you believe GWB to be the greatest president ever).

Considering Christians make up about 33% of the worlds population (CIA World Factbook) and Muslims make up about 21% then I would say probably Christians whine and complain more.

Now.. deciding who whines and complains the loudest is a different story.
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Old 07-02-2008, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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dealing with muslims is like walking on eggshells sometimes and that's a bit unfair. cater to them, but don't cater to anyone else. seriously. foot baths in airports? lawsuits for people getting fired because they refused to do their job for religious reasons? I couldn't get away with that. in the real world, you don't do your job, you get fired. in the PC world, if you don't do your job, you have a lawsuit.

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No. I'm trying to say that counting the number of hits provides no useful conclusions in this scenario (unless of course you believe GWB to be the greatest president ever).

Considering Christians make up about 33% of the worlds population (CIA World Factbook) and Muslims make up about 21% then I would say probably Christians whine and complain more.

Now.. deciding who whines and complains the loudest is a different story.
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