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Old 08-02-2008, 01:25 AM
 
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[SIZE=2]Is[/SIZE][SIZE=2]lam gave women rights and privileges at a time when only barbaric manners and values dominated.
Yet, some people argue th
at Islam has alienated women in some domains. In fact, this belief is a misconception. People who say so, may have read about it in a magazine or seen it on TV. A quick examination of the issues judged as unjust to women will certainly correct the misunderstanding.[/SIZE]

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Old 08-02-2008, 06:23 AM
 
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In truth, there is not so much difference in women's appointed position in the Koran from their appointed position in the Bible. They are to be submissive to their husbands and husbands are to love them. It is that this is adhered to much more in Moslem societies whereas in "Christian" societies many women imagine themselves to be "liberated" from the teachings of the Bible.

I am old enough to remember women in churches in America all wearing hats with veils. It is a far different America today and God will judge it for falling away from faith.
 
Old 08-02-2008, 07:02 AM
 
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In truth, there is not so much difference in women's appointed position in the Koran from their appointed position in the Bible. They are to be submissive to their husbands and husbands are to love them. It is that this is adhered to much more in Moslem societies whereas in "Christian" societies many women imagine themselves to be "liberated" from the teachings of the Bible.

I am old enough to remember women in churches in America all wearing hats with veils. It is a far different America today and God will judge it for falling away from faith.
No, woman are not liberated from the teachings of the bible nor think they are. They are liberated by the bible! The bible states: "There is now neither bond nor free, male nor female...". So the bible has liberated woman.

Woman to Islam are in a worse state than the Quaran even describes. The are abused and degraded in Muslim society. They are little different than cattle and the cattle get more respect.
 
Old 08-02-2008, 07:10 AM
 
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Woman to Islam are in a worse state than the Quaran even describes. The are abused and degraded in Muslim society. They are little different than cattle and the cattle get more respect.
That this is true, to the extent that it is true, is not because of Islamic teachings. Women in most parts of the world are second class citizens, not only Moslem nations. Only in the West do women approach equality in society and that is itself a recent phenomenon. The suffrage movement was barely a hundred years ago. Former slaves had the right to vote in the US more than half a century before women. It is no surprise that a black man was nominated for president before a white woman.

I imagine from your Bible verse selection that you believe that women should be ordained?
 
Old 08-02-2008, 07:15 AM
 
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No, woman are not liberated from the teachings of the bible nor think they are. They are liberated by the bible! The bible states: "There is now neither bond nor free, male nor female...". So the bible has liberated women
Thank you Nikk..I, of course agree
 
Old 08-02-2008, 07:24 AM
 
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No, woman are not liberated from the teachings of the bible nor think they are. They are liberated by the bible! The bible states: "There is now neither bond nor free, male nor female...". So the bible has liberated woman.
I respect your opinion on this divisive issue. Please capitalize Bible when referring to God's Word.
 
Old 08-02-2008, 08:09 AM
 
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There is the Koran and then there is societal tradition. There are many things done to women in Islamic countries that is appalling and it may or may not be taught in the Koran. But then this is also true of some Christian countries and Hindu countries.

The countries which have the most rights for women are secular countries that have divided religion from governance.
 
Old 08-02-2008, 08:25 AM
 
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The countries which have the most rights for women are secular countries that have divided religion from governance.
Quite true but not for that reason. Remarkably brave women in the US and Britain fought a determined uphill battle against societal traditions for those rights. It was not separation of church and state that did it! Their success inspired women in other European nations to demand their rights too. It was much like how the American Revolution inspired revolutions in other countries, some successful, some not so.
 
Old 08-02-2008, 09:00 AM
 
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Quite true but not for that reason. Remarkably brave women in the US and Britain fought a determined uphill battle against societal traditions for those rights. It was not separation of church and state that did it! Their success inspired women in other European nations to demand their rights too. It was much like how the American Revolution inspired revolutions in other countries, some successful, some not so.
True. Perhaps it is better said that secular governments present an environment more amenable to women having equal rights (as well as other groups).
 
Old 08-02-2008, 09:04 AM
 
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It can certainly be acknowledged that none of the suffragettes were likely to be stoned to death in public.
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