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Old 09-26-2008, 09:31 PM
 
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Tonight I was watching the presidential debates between obama and mccain. Something occurred to me that I was hoping some of the regular muslims on this board could give me insight to.

If obama were elected president, I thought that this may be helpful with the US's relations with muslim countries as obama was raised a muslim for a time as a child, and certainly has muslim relatives. I thought that maybe this would be a sort of bridge between the worlds muslims and the usa.
But then I remembered that the qoran and muslim society do not look kindly on muslims who become christian. I was wondering if that would hold true for obama who was a child when he lived with his muslim step father and then became christian while living with his grandparents. Would the muslim world view obama favorably, or would they hold this religious change against him?

Thank you for giving me new perspectives on this
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Old 09-27-2008, 12:03 AM
 
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Tonight I was watching the presidential debates between obama and mccain. Something occurred to me that I was hoping some of the regular muslims on this board could give me insight to.

If obama were elected president, I thought that this may be helpful with the US's relations with muslim countries as obama was raised a muslim for a time as a child, and certainly has muslim relatives. I thought that maybe this would be a sort of bridge between the worlds muslims and the usa.
But then I remembered that the qoran and muslim society do not look kindly on muslims who become christian. I was wondering if that would hold true for obama who was a child when he lived with his muslim step father and then became christian while living with his grandparents. Would the muslim world view obama favorably, or would they hold this religious change against him?

Thank you for giving me new perspectives on this
hi camping , thank you for your question
well , my personal insight is that it dosn't matter if he exmuslim or christian , this isn't the point of enmity between muslims and USA

as long as USA support and fight our countries (arabs and muslims countries) you will find kind of enmity for USA .
but this enmity is against USA politicaly (not for americans as a humans)

maybe this would be a sort of bridge between the worlds muslims and the usa.????
no it's not enough , we want positive steps toward the peace
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Old 09-27-2008, 06:13 AM
 
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Tonight I was watching the presidential debates between obama and mccain. Something occurred to me that I was hoping some of the regular muslims on this board could give me insight to.

If obama were elected president, I thought that this may be helpful with the US's relations with muslim countries as obama was raised a muslim for a time as a child, and certainly has muslim relatives. I thought that maybe this would be a sort of bridge between the worlds muslims and the usa.
But then I remembered that the qoran and muslim society do not look kindly on muslims who become christian. I was wondering if that would hold true for obama who was a child when he lived with his muslim step father and then became christian while living with his grandparents. Would the muslim world view obama favorably, or would they hold this religious change against him?

Thank you for giving me new perspectives on this
Obama (nor anyone else) is not a Christian simply because he says he is. How are you using that title when you ascribe it to him?

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Old 09-27-2008, 07:41 AM
 
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hi camping , thank you for your question
well , my personal insight is that it dosn't matter if he exmuslim or christian , this isn't the point of enmity between muslims and USA

as long as USA support and fight our countries (arabs and muslims countries) you will find kind of enmity for USA .
but this enmity is against USA politicaly (not for americans as a humans)

maybe this would be a sort of bridge between the worlds muslims and the usa.????
no it's not enough , we want positive steps toward the peace
Thank you elwill for answering my question. I know that there is a lot of reasons for the current ill will between the US and muslims today, and having a president who was raised (for a time) with a muslim and has muslim family members certainly wouldn't be a cure-all. I was just wondering if the muslim world would hold it against obama for not follwing islam even though he was exposed to it when he was a child.
I remember past discussions about sharia, where a person who repudiates islam for christianity (or really any other religion) can pay dearly for it -- sometimes even with their life. With that in mind, I was wondering how the muslim countries would view obama --- as a positive force for potential change in relations between muslims and the US or as an apostate that cannot be trusted?
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Old 09-27-2008, 07:42 AM
 
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Obama (nor anyone else) is not a Christian simply because he says he is. How are you using that title when you ascribe it to him?

Preterist

I do not know if obama is a true christian. I am merely calling him a christian because that is how he identifies himself and his immediate family.
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Old 09-27-2008, 08:58 AM
 
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I'm not a Muslim and don't feel I'm qualified to answer your question regarding the religious side of the question, but I am a scholar of modern middle eastern history and would like to chime in on what Elwill mentioned -- politics and peace.

It is my opinion that Obama would be seen in a much better light than McCain (with a caveat), which is essentially an extension of the Bush administration in all things ideology. In speaking with others, I get the impression that many feel that McCain could be worse for U.S. Foreign policy relations than was Bush.

On the other hand, to say that Obama is inherently different isn't true either. While he didn't vote for the War in Iraq and never supported it, his claims of support of Israel, like every other U.S. politician, leads me to believe that Arabs would in some ways see very little difference.
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Old 09-28-2008, 10:24 PM
 
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According to the beliefs of most Muslims (there are many segments), they will look down more upon a "former-muslim" than one of another faith. They feel that this person betrayed Islam.
So I dont see the Muslim countries embracing Obama if he became president.
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Old 09-28-2008, 11:42 PM
 
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According to the beliefs of most Muslims (there are many segments), they will look down more upon a "former-muslim" than one of another faith. They feel that this person betrayed Islam.
So I dont see the Muslim countries embracing Obama if he became president.

we will embrace obama depending on his action , not depending on his faith
it dosn't matter if he apostate or not
the situation is more simple than your imagination
we judge on the people in the political world by thier actions not by thier faith
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