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Old 10-30-2008, 07:02 PM
 
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Yes, it is quite true. There was, unfortunately, an awful lot of stoning to death in the Old Testament. I still cannot reconcile myself to such a punishment.
The only excuse (or reason) I can come up with is that it took place three thousand years ago. They were 'people of their time'.
Islam has still to catch up.

thats whats good about islam christianity has been tampered with over and over again.
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Old 11-03-2008, 02:41 PM
 
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Huh.. she was 13.. not 23.

Oh.. and she was raped.

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Old 11-03-2008, 04:11 PM
 
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Huh.. she was 13.. not 23.

Oh.. and she was raped.

Somali rape victim, 13, stoned to death - Africa

Well, I guess the truth finally came out and I still say I don't think anyone can condone the actions of these Islamic Extremists. Unfortunately a 13-year-old innocent girl had to suffer such a horrible death at the hands of these extremists.
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Old 11-03-2008, 04:17 PM
 
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Stop pointing fingers...Christianity has its share of stoning people to death.
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Old 11-03-2008, 04:28 PM
 
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Stop pointing fingers...Christianity has its share of stoning people to death.
True, both Christianity and Islam have had their share of stoning in ancient times, however when was the last time that you heard of anybody that is a Christian being stoned to death? Two wrongs do not make a right and the practice of stoning someone to death is such a barbaric practice by today's standards that I believe that no civilization could condone such an act.
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:02 PM
 
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i think that stonning is horrible , but we trust our God and we are sure that he know nature of humanity very well , so that his laws is perfect to bring peace to society
You really have NO clue as to how nauseated that comment makes those in the world outside of Islam, do you?
Instead of bringing people to a peaceful God, Islam is actually CREATING ATHEISTS by claiming that any sort of a God would want this.

This is only one step away from earlier religions that used to sacrifice virgins to God to make crops grow during the following year.

In the US, there are people who plead guilt to crimes and investigation will sometimes find that they did not do it. They are mad. There are people who plead guilty, but we allow for the process of law to determine that, not wanting to punish an innocent person and realizing that the person confessing may be mentally unbalanced.

Just because a woman admits to a crime and asks for punishment means nothing. Unless the society, itself, is insane. Who would want it on their conscience to harm an innocent person? It is NOT God that killed her, it is MAN. And one way or another, these people will be judged for their actions. Harming other people or exacting punishment that is inappropriate to the crime is not something you can 'get away with' because of claims that your religion demands it.

You believe your suicide bombers are given a reward in heaven. I think, when they die, they experience a great shock because they see then with clearer eyes and realize the horror they were coaxed into doing by a twisted belief system.
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:07 PM
 
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I wonder what sort of hate and anger could fill a person to make them want to stone someone to death in the first place? I cannot even fathom having that sort of anger...I mean to literally pick up rocks and hurl them at a woman. I know it is cultural and I've been trying to understand it as this thread has progressed...but it baffles me.
It is a sexually repressed society.
Muslem men are obsessed by sex. When the terrorists come into Western countries they often frequent places of ill repute and purchase porno.
Because they are so repressed, woman are made to cover themselves. You see, they blame women for their lack of control over their own bodily functions.
Men in those countries, many at least, oftne think it is the woman's fault if a man rapes her.
These are very backward societies.
Which is a shame, because they have such promise. They were once the pinnacle of civilization, and look at how far religion has made them fall.
There is a lesson here, for the West, to keep religion in its place and that is definitely NOT to interfere with government.
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:09 PM
 
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mideast has not changed much in 2000 years. cruel bloodthirsty. russians understand this french understand this so why are we trying to make friends and spread democracy in the mideast?
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:09 PM
 
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News - East Africa: Stoned woman 'screamed for her life'

This doesn't sound like that woman went willingly and these are Islamic terrorists. I don't think there is any way anyone can condone the actions of these Islamic Extremists..
It's beyond words and reason! A "society" going against all Sacred LaW unwilling to know MERCY!!!!!
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:17 PM
 
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but who are you to say anything. if they go by the way of life and follow their religion why criticize? just cause its taboo in our society does not mean its taboo in theirs

respect it... whether you agree or not..
You mean like the people with Rev. Jim Jones who willingly drank the cool-aide? Or that star cult who offed each other with the sure knowledge that they would be beamed up to HaleBop(sp)?

So if you are insane, you can be pronounced as such, but if you associate with a community like yourself you can just call it a cultural difference?

So, you do not believe there are crimes against humanity?

Was Germany, in WWII a mere cultural difference, killing all those people - gypsies, half-breeds, Jews, and if given enough time, all Aryans(which would have included Japanese and many Russians and probably a lot of Italians)?

I can live and let live, but when people come into our countries and want to have laws change so they can rule themselves under Sharia I take offense. You see the kind of crap that Sharia can do to a culture. When kids are born in our countries, they are citizens and abide by our laws. If Muslims don't like that, they can just control their breeding.
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