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Old 11-16-2008, 10:08 AM
 
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why you repeat this brain washed claims against me
i just gave you the chance to proof your claims , i wanna to hear from you .
you calims that muslims preach "X" . so that i asked you to proof for me that muslims really preach " X" , and surely it should to be from islamic sources

where is the brain washed of mine in this simple question ? huh
or you just didn't find islamic sites support your claims against them

YouTube - Brigitte Gabriel: Hate preaching in mosques


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM7Pu...eature=related
I don't have time to searched today, but if you want, I'm more than willing to post more, MUCH more. But I said, you will dismiss them
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Old 11-16-2008, 12:04 PM
 
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YouTube - Brigitte Gabriel: Hate preaching in mosques


YouTube - Islamofascism its propaganda and how it kills the West
I don't have time to searched today, but if you want, I'm more than willing to post more, MUCH more. But I said, you will dismiss them

are you kidding ?
islamic sites filled the internet , you can't bring for me just one islamic site preaching hateness !!!!!!!
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Old 11-16-2008, 07:42 PM
 
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are you kidding ?
islamic sites filled the internet , you can't bring for me just one islamic site preaching hateness !!!!!!!
The Koran ITSELF preaches hateness of those of other religions. I have never read any other religion that is so blood thirsty and hate-filled. There is much more, but space is limited.
And this does not include the Shariah interpretation of such verses.

The following verses promote divisiveness and religious hatred, bigotry and discrimination. They must be either removed from the Koran or declared outdated and invalid, and marked as such:

• 2.6: Surely those who disbelieve, it being alike to them whether you warn them, or do not warn them, will not believe.
• 2.7: Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing and there is a covering over their eyes, and there is a great punishment for them.


OF THOSE WHO SAY THEY BELIEVE, BUT DO NOT – MAYBE THEY JUST WANT TO GET
OUT OF PAYING THE TAXES LEVIED ON NON-MUSLIMS?
• 2.10: There is a disease in their hearts, so Allah added to their disease and they shall have a painful chastisement because they lie.

• 2.88: And they say: Our hearts are covered. Nay, Allah has cursed them on account of their unbelief; so little it is that they believe.
• 2.89: And when there came to them a Book from Allah verifying that which they have, and aforetime they used to pray for victory against those who disbelieve, but when there came to them (Prophet) that which they did not recognize, they disbelieved in him; so Allah's curse is on the unbelievers.
• 2.90: Evil is that for which they have sold their souls that they should deny what Allah has revealed, out of envy that Allah should send down of His grace on whomsoever of His servants He pleases; so they have made themselves deserving of wrath upon wrath, and there is a disgraceful punishment for the unbelievers.

• 2.98: Whoever is the enemy of Allah and His angels and His apostles and Jibreel and Meekaeel, so surely Allah is the enemy of the unbelievers.
• 2.99: And certainly We have revealed to you clear communications and none disbelieve in them except the transgressors.
• 2.100: What! whenever they make a covenant, a party of them cast it aside? Nay, most of them do not believe.
(this).
• 2.104: O you who believe! do not say Raina and say Unzurna and listen, and for the unbelievers there is a painful chastisement.
• 2.105: Those who disbelieve from among the followers of the Book do not like, nor do the polytheists, that the good should be sent down to you from your Lord, and Allah chooses especially whom He pleases for His mercy, and Allah is the Lord of mighty grace.


• 2.113: And the Jews say: The Christians do not follow anything (good) and the Christians say: The Jews do not follow anything (good) while they recite the (same) Book. Even thus say those who have no knowledge, like to what they say; so Allah shall judge between them on the day of resurrection in what they differ.
• 2.120: And the Jews will not be pleased with you, nor the Christians until you follow their religion. Say: Surely Allah's guidance, that is the (true) guidance. And if you follow their desires after the knowledge that has come to you, you shall have no guardian from Allah, nor any helper.
• 2.135: And they say: Be Jews or Christians, you will be on the right course. Say: Nay! (we follow) the religion of Ibrahim, the Hanif, and he was not one of the polytheists.
• 2.161: Surely those who disbelieve and die while they are disbelievers, these it is on whom is the curse of Allah and the angels and men all;
• 2.162: Abiding in it; their chastisement shall not be lightened nor shall they be given respite.
• 2.191: And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.
• 2.193: And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah, but if they desist, then there should be no hostility except against the oppressors.
• 2.216: Fighting is enjoined on you, and his an object of dislike to you; and it may be that you dislike a thing while it is good for you, and it may be that you love a thing while it is evil for you, and Allah knows, while you do not know.
• 2.221: And do not marry the idolatresses until they believe, and certainly a believing maid is better than an idolatress woman, even though she should please you; and do not give (believing women) in marriage to idolaters until they believe, and certainly a believing servant is better than an idolater, even though he should please you; these invite to the fire, and Allah invites to the garden and to forgiveness by His will, and makes clear His communications to men, that they may be mindful.
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• 2.223: Your wives are a tilth for you, so go into your tilth when you like, and do good beforehand for yourselves, and be careful (of your duty) to Allah, and know that you will meet Him, and give good news to the believers.
• 2.229: Divorce may be (pronounced) twice, then keep (them) in good fellowship or let (them) go with kindness; and it is not lawful for you to take any part of what you have given them, unless both fear that they cannot keep within the limits of Allah; then if you fear that they cannot keep within the limits of Allah, there is no blame on them for what she gives up to become free thereby. These are the limits of Allah, so do not exceed them and whoever exceeds the limits of Allah these it is that are the unjust.

• 2.233: And the mothers should suckle their children for two whole years for him who desires to make complete the time of suckling; and their maintenance and their clothing must be -- borne by the father according to usage; no soul shall have imposed upon it a duty but to the extent of its capacity; neither shall a mother be made to suffer harm on account of her child, nor a father on account of his child, and a similar duty (devolves) on the (father's) heir, but if both desire weaning by mutual consent and counsel, there is no blame on them, and if you wish to engage a wet-nurse for your children, there is no blame on you so long as you pay what you promised for according to usage; and be careful of (your duty to) Allah and know that Allah sees what you do.

• 2.257: Allah is the guardian of those who believe. He brings them out of the darkness into the light; and (as to) those who disbelieve, their guardians are Shaitans who take them out of the light into the darkness; they are the inmates of the fire, in it they shall abide.
• 2.264: O you who believe! do not make your charity worthless by reproach and injury, like him who spends his property to be seen of men and does not believe in Allah and the last day; so his parable is as the parable of a smooth rock with earth upon it, then a heavy rain falls upon it, so it leaves it bare; they shall not be able to gain anything of what they have earned; and Allah does not guide the unbelieving people.

• 2.286: Allah does not impose upon any soul a duty but to the extent of its ability; for it is (the benefit of) what it has earned and upon it (the evil of) what it has wrought: Our Lord! do not punish us if we forget or make a mistake; Our Lord! do not lay on us a burden as Thou didst lay on those before us, Our Lord do not impose upon us that which we have not the strength to bear; and pardon us and grant us protection and have mercy on us, Thou art our Patron, so help us against the unbelieving people.

• 3.4: Surely they who disbelieve in the communications of Allah they shall have a severe chastisement; and Allah is Mighty, the Lord of retribution.
• 3.10: (As for) those who disbelieve, surely neither their wealth nor their children shall avail them in the least against Allah, and these it is who are the fuel of the fire.
• 3.11: Like the striving of the people of Firon and those before them; they rejected Our communications, so Allah destroyed them on account of their faults; and Allah is severe in requiting (evil).
• 3.12: Say to those who disbelieve: You shall be vanquished, and driven together to hell; and evil is the resting-place.
• 3.13: Indeed there was a sign for you in the two hosts (which) met together in encounter; one party fighting in the way of Allah and the other unbelieving, whom they saw twice as many as themselves with the sight of the eye and Allah strengthens with His aid whom He pleases; most surely there is a lesson in this for those who have sight.
• 3.19: Surely the (true) religion with Allah is Islam, and those to whom the Book had been given did not show opposition but after knowledge had come to them, out of envy among themselves; and whoever disbelieves in the communications of Allah then surely Allah is quick in reckoning.
eventual coming.
• 3.32: Say: Obey Allah and the Apostle; but if they turn back, then surely Allah does not love the unbelievers.

• 3.91: Surely, those who disbelieve and die while they are unbelievers, the earth full of gold shall not be accepted from one of them, though he should offer to ransom himself with it, these it is who shall have a painful chastisement, and they shall have no helpers.

• 3.131: And guard yourselves against the fire, which has been prepared for the unbelievers.

• 3.151: We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust.
• 3.178: And let not those who disbelieve think that Our granting them respite is better for their souls; We grant them respite only that they may add to their sins; and they shall have a disgraceful chastisement.
• 3.196: Let it not deceive you that those who disbelieve go to and fro in the cities fearlessly.
• 3.197: A brief enjoyment! then their abode is hell, and evil is the resting-place.

• 4.3: And if you fear that you cannot act equitably towards orphans, then marry such women as seem good to you, two and three and four; but if you fear that you will not do justice (between them), then (marry) only one or what your right hands possess; this is more proper, that you may not deviate from the right course.
• 4.11: Allah enjoins you concerning your children: The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females; then if they are more than two females, they shall have two-thirds of what the deceased has left, and if there is one, she shall have the half; and as for his parents, each of them shall have the sixth of what he has left if he has a child, but if he has no child and (only) his two parents inherit him, then his mother shall have the third; but if he has brothers, then his mother shall have the sixth after (the payment of) a bequest he may have bequeathed or a debt; your parents and your children, you know not which of them is the nearer to you in usefulness; this is an ordinance from Allah: Surely Allah is Knowing, Wise.
• 4.12: And you shall have half of what your wives leave if they have no child, but if they have a child, then you shall have a fourth of what they leave after (payment of) any bequest they may have bequeathed or a debt; and they shall have the fourth of what you leave if you have no child, but if you have a child then they shall have the eighth of what you leave after (payment of) a bequest you may have bequeathed or a debt; and if a man or a woman leaves property to be inherited by neither parents nor offspring, and he (or she) has a brother or a sister, then each of them two shall have the sixth, but if they are more than that, they shall be sharers in the third after (payment of) any bequest that may have been bequeathed or a debt that does not harm (others); this is an ordinance from Allah: and Allah is Knowing, Forbearing.
• 4.14: And whoever disobeys Allah and His Apostle and goes beyond His limits, He will cause him to enter fire to abide in it, and he shall have an abasing chastisement.
• 4.15: And as for those who are guilty of an indecency from among your women, call to witnesses against them four (witnesses) from among you; then if they bear witness confine them to the houses until death takes them away or Allah opens some way for them.
• 4.16: And as for the two who are guilty of indecency from among you, give them both a punishment; then if they repent and amend, turn aside from them; surely Allah is Oft-returning (to mercy), the Merciful.
• 4.18: And repentance is not for those who go on doing evil deeds, until when death comes to one of them, he says: Surely now I repent; nor (for) those who die while they are unbelievers. These are they for whom We have prepared a painful chastisement.
• 4.24: And all married women except those whom your right hands possess (this is) Allah's ordinance to you, and lawful for you are (all women) besides those, provided that you seek (them) with your property, taking (them) in marriage not committing fornication. Then as to those whom you profit by, give them their dowries as appointed; and there is no blame on you about what you mutually agree after what is appointed; surely Allah is Knowing, Wise.
• 4.25: And whoever among you has not within his power ampleness of means to marry free believing women, then (he may marry) of those whom your right hands possess from among your believing maidens; and Allah knows best your faith: you are (sprung) the one from the other; so marry them with the permission of their masters, and give them their dowries justly, they being chaste, not fornicating, nor receiving paramours; and when they are taken in marriage, then if they are guilty of indecency, they shall suffer half the punishment which is (inflicted) upon free women. This is for him among you who fears falling into evil; and that you abstain is better for you, and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
• 4.34: Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.
• 4.43: O you who believe! do not go near prayer when you are Intoxicated until you know (well) what you say, nor when you are under an obligation to perform a bath unless (you are) traveling on the road until you have washed yourselves; and if you are sick, or on a journey, or one of you come from the privy or you have touched the women, and you cannot find water, betake yourselves to pure earth, then wipe your faces and your hands; surely Allah is Pardoning, Forgiving.
• 4.46: Of those who are Jews (there are those who) alter words from their places and say: We have heard and we disobey and: Hear, may you not be made to hear! and: Raina, distorting (the word) with their tongues and taunting about religion; and if they had said (instead): We have heard and we obey, and hearken, and Unzurna it would have been better for them and more upright; but Allah has cursed them on account of their unbelief, so they do not believe but a little.
• 4.47: O you who have been given the Book! believe that which We have revealed, verifying what you have, before We alter faces then turn them on their backs, or curse them as We cursed the violators of the Sabbath, and the command of Allah shall be executed.
• 4.56: (As for) those who disbelieve in Our communications, We shall make them enter fire; so oft as their skins are thoroughly burned, We will change them for other skins, that they may taste the chastisement; surely Allah is Mighty, Wise.

therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.
• 4.91: You will find others who desire that they should be safe from you and secure from their own people; as often as they are sent back to the mischief they get thrown into it headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and (do not) offer you peace and restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given you a clear authority.
• 4.138: Announce to the hypocrites that they shall have a painful chastisement:

• 4.144: O you who believe! do not take the unbelievers for friends rather than the believers; do you desire that you should give to Allah a manifest proof against yourselves?
• 4.161: And their taking usury though indeed they were forbidden it and their devouring the property of people falsely, and We have prepared for the unbelievers from among them a painful chastisement.

• 4.168: Surely (as for) those who disbelieve and act unjustly Allah will not forgive them nor guide them to a path
• 4.169: Except the path of hell, to abide in it for ever, and this is easy to Allah.

• 4.176: They ask you for a decision of the law. Say: Allah gives you a decision concerning the person who has neither parents nor offspring; if a man dies (and) he has no son and he has a sister, she shall have half of what he leaves, and he shall be her heir she has no son; but if there be two (sisters), they shall have two-thirds of what he leaves; and if there are brethren, men and women, then the male shall have the like of the portion of two females; Allah makes clear to you, lest you err; and Allah knows all things.


• 5.38: And (as for) the man who steals and the woman who steals, cut off their hands as a punishment for what they have earned, an exemplary punishment from Allah; and Allah is Mighty, Wise.
• 5.51: O you who believe! Do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.
grieve not therefore for the unbelieving people.

• 5.73: Certainly they disbelieve who say: Surely Allah is the third (person) of the three; and there is no god but the one God, and if they desist not from what they say, a painful chastisement shall befall those among them who disbelieve.





• 8.36: Surely those who disbelieve spend their wealth to hinder (people) from the way of Allah; so they shall spend it, then it shall be to them an intense regret, then they shall be overcome; and those who disbelieve shall be driven together to hell.
• 8.50: And had you seen when the angels will cause to die those who disbelieve, smiting their faces and their backs, and (saying): Taste the punishment of burning.

Sura 9: "The Immunity"

• 10.4: To Him is your return, of all (of you); the promise of Allah (made) in truth; surely He begins the creation in the first instance, then He reproduces it, that He may with justice recompense those who believe and do good; and (as for) those who disbelieve, they shall have a drink of hot water and painful punishment because they disbelieved.
• 10.70: (It is only) a provision in this world, then to Us shall be their return; then We shall make them taste severe punishment because they disbelieved.

• 13.5: And if you would wonder, then wondrous is their saying: What! when we are dust, shall we then certainly be in a new creation? These are they who disbelieve in their Lord, and these have chains on their necks, and they are the inmates of the fire; in it they shall abide.
• 13.32: And apostles before you were certainly mocked at, but I gave respite to those who disbelieved, then I destroyed them; how then was My requital (of evil)?
• 13.35: A likeness of the garden which the righteous are promised; there now beneath it rivers, its food and shades are perpetual; this is the requital of those who guarded (against evil), and the requital of the unbelievers is the fire.

• 14.16: Hell is before him and he shall be given to drink of festering water:
• 14.17: He will drink it little by little and will not be able to swallow it agreeably, and death will come to him from every quarter, but he shall not die; and there shall be vehement chastisement before him.



• 18.29: And say: The truth is from your Lord, so let him who please believe, and let him who please disbelieve; surely We have prepared for the iniquitous a fire, the curtains of which shall encompass them about; and if they cry for water, they shall be given water like molten brass which will scald their faces; , We will make him taste of a painful chastisement.
• 22.57: And (as for) those who disbelieve in and reject Our communications, these it is who shall have a disgraceful chastisement.
• 22.72: And when Our clear communications are recited to them you will find denial on the faces of those who disbelieve; they almost spring upon those who recite to them Our communications. Say: Shall I inform you of what is worse than this? The fire; Allah has promised it to those who disbelieve; and how evil the resort!


• 24.2: (As for) the fornicatress and the fornicator, flog each of them, (giving) a hundred stripes, and let not pity for them detain you in the matter of obedience to Allah, if you believe in Allah and the last day, and let a party of believers witness their chastisement.
• 24.3: The fornicator shall not marry any but a fornicatress or idolatress, and (as for) the fornicatress, none shall marry her but a fornicator or an idolater; and it is forbidden to the believers.
• 24.4: And those who accuse free women then do not bring four witnesses, flog them, (giving) eighty stripes, and do not admit any evidence from them ever; and these it is that are the transgressors,
• 24.5: Except those who repent after this and act aright, for surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
• 24.6: And (as for) those who accuse their wives and have no witnesses except themselves, the evidence of one of these (should be taken) four times, bearing Allah to witness that he is most surely of the truthful ones.
• 24.7: And the fifth (time) that the curse of Allah be on him if he is one of the liars.
• 24.8: And it shall avert the chastisement from her if she testify four times, bearing Allah to witness that he is most surely one of the liars;
• 24.9: And the fifth (time) that the wrath of Allah be on her if he is one of the truthful.
• 29.13: And most certainly they shall carry their own burdens, and other burdens with their own burdens, and most certainly they shall be questioned on the resurrection day as to what they forged.
• 29.23: And (as to) those who disbelieve in the communications of Allah and His meeting, they have despaired of My mercy, and these it is that shall have a painful punishment.
• 29.52: Say: Allah is sufficient as a witness between me and you; He knows what is in the heavens and the earth. And (as for) those who believe in the falsehood and disbelieve in Allah, these it is that are the losers.
• 29.53: And they ask you to hasten on the chastisement; and had not a term been appointed, the chastisement would certainly have come to them; and most certainly it will come to them all of a sudden while they will not perceive.
• 29.54: They ask you to hasten on the chastisement, and most surely hell encompasses the unbelievers;
• 29.55: On the day when the chastisement shall cover them from above them, and from beneath their feet; and He shall say: Taste what you did.
• 29.68: And who is more unjust than one who forges a lie against Allah, or gives the lie to the truth when it has come to him? Will not in hell be the abode of the unbelievers?

• 30.16: And as to those who disbelieved and rejected Our communications and the meeting of the hereafter, these shall be brought over to the chastisement.


• 33.51: You may put off whom you please of them, and you may take to you whom you please, and whom you desire of those whom you had separated provisionally; no blame attaches to you; this is most proper, so that their eyes may be cool and they may not grieve, and that they should be pleased, all of them with what you give them, and Allah knows what is in your hearts; and Allah is Knowing, Forbearing.
• 33.52: It is not allowed to you to take women afterwards, nor that you should change them for other wives, though their beauty be pleasing to you, except what your right hand possesses and Allah is Watchful over all things.
• 33.60: If the hypocrites and those in whose hearts is a disease and the agitators in the city do not desist, We shall most certainly set you over them, then they shall not be your neighbors in it but for a little while;
• 33.61: Cursed: wherever they are found they shall be seized and murdered, a (horrible) murdering.
• 33.64: Surely Allah has cursed the unbelievers and has prepared for them a burning fire,
• 33.65: To abide therein for a long time; they shall not find a protector or a helper.
• 33.73: So Allah will chastise the hypocritical men and the hypocritical women and the polytheistic men and the polytheistic women, and Allah will turn (mercifully) to the believing women, and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

• 34.17: This We requited them with because they disbelieved; and We do not punish any but the ungrateful.
• 35.7: (As for) those who disbelieve, they shall have a severe punishment, and (as for) those who believe and do good, they shall have forgiveness and a great reward.

• 35.36: And (as for) those who disbelieve, for them is the fire of hell; it shall not be finished with them entirely so that they should die, nor shall the chastisement thereof be lightened to them: even thus do We retribute every ungrateful one.


• 41.29: And those who disbelieve will say: Our Lord! show us those who led us astray from among the jinn and the men that we may trample them under our feet so that they may be of the lowest.
• 42.26: And He answers those who believe and do good deeds, and gives them more out of His grace; and (as for) the unbelievers, they shall have a severe punishment.


• 45.10: Before them is hell, and there shall not avail them aught of what they earned, nor those whom they took for guardians besides Allah, and they shall have a grievous punishment.
• 46.20: And on the day when those who disbelieve shall be brought before the fire: You did away with your good things in your life of the world and you enjoyed them for a while, so today you shall be rewarded with the punishment of abasement because you were unjustly proud in the land and because you transgressed.
• 46.34: And on the day when those who disbelieve shall be brought before the fire: Is it not true? They shall say: Aye! by our Lord! He will say: Then taste the punishment, because you disbelieved.

• 47.4: So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners, and afterwards either set them free as a favor or let them ransom (themselves) until the war terminates. That (shall be so); and if Allah had pleased He would certainly have exacted what is due from them, but that He may try some of you by means of others; and (as for) those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will by no means allow their deeds to perish.
those who disbelieve enjoy themselves and eat as the beasts eat, and the fire is their abode.
• 47.34: Surely those who disbelieve and turn away from Allah's way, then they die while they are unbelievers, Allah will by no means forgive them.

• 48.6: And (that) He may punish the hypocritical men and the hypocritical women, and the polytheistic men and the polytheistic women, the entertainers of evil thoughts about Allah. On them is the evil turn, and Allah is wroth with them and has cursed them and prepared hell for them, and evil is the resort.
• 48.13: And whoever does not believe in Allah and His Apostle, then surely We have prepared burning fire for the unbelievers.
• 48.16: Say to those of the dwellers of the desert who were left behind: You shall soon be invited (to fight) against a people possessing mighty prowess; you will fight against them until they submit; then if you obey, Allah will grant you a good reward; and if you turn back as you turned back before, He will punish you with a painful punishment.
• 48.17: There is no harm in the blind, nor is there any harm in the lame, nor is there any harm in the sick (if they do not go forth); and whoever obeys Allah and His Apostle, He will cause him to enter gardens beneath which rivers flow, and whoever turns back, He will punish him with a painful punishment.
• 48.25: It is they who disbelieved and turned you away from the Sacred Mosque and (turned off) the offering withheld from arriving at its destined place; and were it not for the believing men and the believing women, whom, not having known, you might have trodden down, and thus something hateful might have afflicted you on their account without knowledge so that Allah may cause to enter into His mercy whomsoever He pleases; had they been widely separated one from another, We would surely have punished those who disbelieved from among them with a painful punishment.
• 48.29: Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah, and those with him are firm of heart against the unbelievers, compassionate among themselves; you will see them bowing down, prostrating themselves, seeking grace from Allah and pleasure; their marks are in their faces because of the effect of prostration; that is their description in the Taurat and their description in the Injeel; like as seed-produce that puts forth its sprout, then strengthens it, so it becomes stout and stands firmly on its stem, delighting the sowers that He may enrage the unbelievers on account of them; Allah has promised those among them who believe and do good, forgiveness and a great reward.

• 52.42: Or do they desire a war? But those who disbelieve shall be the vanquished ones in war.

• 57.13: On the day when the hypocritical men and the hypocritical women will say to those who believe: Wait for us, that we may have light from your light; it shall be said: Turn back and seek a light. Then separation would be brought about between them, with a wall having a door in it; (as for) the inside of it, there shall be mercy in it, and (as for) the outside of it, before it there shall be punishment.
• 57.15: So today ransom shall not be accepted from you nor from those who disbelieved; your abode is the fire; it is your friend and evil is the resort.
• 57.19: And (as for) those who believe in Allah and His apostles, these it is that are the truthful and the faithful ones in the sight of their Lord: they shall have their reward and their light, and (as for) those who disbelieve and reject Our communications, these are the inmates of the hell.

• 58.4: But whoever has not the means, let him fast for two months successively before they touch each other; then as for him who is not able, let him feed sixty needy ones; that is in order that you may have faith in Allah and His Apostle, and these are Allah's limits, and the unbelievers shall have a painful punishment.
• 58.5: Surely those who act in opposition to Allah and His Apostle shall be laid down prostrate as those before them were laid down prostrate; and indeed We have revealed clear communications, and the unbelievers shall have an abasing chastisement.

• 59.2: He it is Who caused those who disbelieved of the followers of the Book to go forth from their homes at the first banishment you did not think that they would go forth, while they were certain that their fortresses would defend them against Allah; but Allah came to them whence they did not expect, and cast terror into their hearts; they demolished their houses with their own hands and the hands of the believers; therefore take a lesson, O you who have eyes!
• 59.3: And had it not been that Allah had decreed for them the exile, He would certainly have punished them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have chastisement of the fire.
• 59.4: That is because they acted in opposition to Allah and His Apostle, and whoever acts in opposition to Allah, then surely Allah is severe in retributing (evil).
• 59.5: Whatever palm-tree you cut down or leave standing upon its roots, It is by Allah's command, and that He may abase the transgressors.
• 59.11: Have you not seen those who have become hypocrites? They say to those of their brethren who disbelieve from among the followers of the Book: If you are driven forth, we shall certainly go forth with you, and we will never obey any one concerning you, and if you are fought against, we will certainly help you, and Allah bears witness that they are most surely liars.
• 59.15: Like those before them shortly; they tasted the evil result of their affair, and they shall have a painful punishment.

• 60.4: Indeed, there is for you a good example in Ibrahim and those with him when they said to their people: Surely we are clear of you and of what you serve besides Allah; we declare ourselves to be clear of you, and enmity and hatred have appeared between us and you forever until you believe in Allah alone -- but not in what Ibrahim said to his father: I would certainly ask forgiveness for you, and I do not control for you aught from Allah -- Our Lord! on Thee do we rely, and to Thee do we turn, and to Thee is the eventual coming:
• 60.10: O you who believe! when believing women come to you flying, then examine them; Allah knows best their faith; then if you find them to be believing women, do not send them back to the unbelievers, neither are these (women) lawful for them, nor are those (men) lawful for them, and give them what they have spent; and no blame attaches to you in marrying them when you give them their dowries; and hold not to the ties of marriage of unbelieving women, and ask for what you have spent, and let them ask for what they have spent. That is Allah's judgment; He judges between you, and Allah is Knowing, Wise.
• 60.13: O you who believe! do not make friends with a people with whom Allah is wroth; indeed they despair of the hereafter as the unbelievers despair of those in tombs.

• 61.9: He it is Who sent His Apostle with the guidance and the true religion, that He may make it overcome the religions, all of them, though the polytheists may be averse.

• 62.5: The likeness of those who were charged with the Taurat, then they did not observe it, is as the likeness of the ass bearing books, evil is the likeness of the people who reject the communications of Allah; and Allah does not guide the unjust people.
• 62.6: Say: O you who are Jews, if you think that you are the favorites of Allah to the exclusion of other people, then invoke death If you are truthful.
• 62.7: And they will never invoke it because of what their hands have sent before; and Allah is Cognizant of the unjust.
• 62.8: Say: (As for) the death from which you flee, that will surely overtake you, then you shall be sent back to the Knower of the unseen and the seen, and He will inform you of that which you did.

Sura 63: "The Hypocrites"

• 64.5: Has there not come to you the story of those who disbelieved before, then tasted the evil result of their conduct, and they had a painful punishment?
• 64.10: And (as for) those who disbelieve and reject Our communications, they are the inmates of the fire, to abide therein and evil is the resort.

• 65.4: And (as for) those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, if you have a doubt, their prescribed time shall be three months, and of those too who have not had their courses; and (as for) the pregnant women, their prescribed time is that they lay down their burden; and whoever is careful of (his duty to) Allah He will make easy for him his affair.

• 66.9: O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and be hard against them; and their abode is hell; and evil is the resort.

• 67.5: And certainly We have adorned this lower heaven with ( lamps and We have made these missiles for the Shaitans, and We have prepared for them the chastisement of burning.
• 67.6: And for those who disbelieve in their Lord is the punishment of hell, and evil is the resort.
• 67.7: When they shall be cast therein, they shall hear a loud moaning of it as it heaves,
• 67.8: Almost bursting for fury. Whenever a group is cast into it, its keeper shall ask them: Did there not come to you a warner?
• 67.20: Or who is it that will be a host for you to assist you besides the Beneficent God? The unbelievers are only in deception.

• 69.30: Lay hold on him, then put a chain on him,
• 69.31: Then cast him into the burning fire,
• 69.32: Then thrust him into a chain the length of which is seventy cubits.

• 76.4: Surely We have prepared for the unbelievers chains and shackles and a burning fire.

• 78.40: Surely We have warned you of a chastisement near at hand: the day when man shall see what his two hands have sent before, and the unbeliever shall say: O! would that I were dust!

• 80.40: And (many) faces on that day, on them shall be dust,
• 80.41: Darkness shall cover them.
• 80.42: These are they who are unbelievers, the wicked.

• 83.34: So today those who believe shall laugh at the unbelievers;
• 83.35: On thrones, they will look.
• 83.36: Surely the disbelievers are rewarded as they did.

• 85.10: Surely (as for) those who persecute the believing men and the believing women, then do not repent, they shall have the chastisement of hell, and they shall have the chastisement of burning.

• 86.15: Surely they will make a scheme,
• 86.16: And I (too) will make a scheme.
• 86.17: So grant the unbelievers a respite: let them alone until you have strength.

• 88.23: But whoever turns back and disbelieves,
• 88.24: Allah will chastise him with the greatest chastisement.

• 98.6: Surely those who disbelieve from among the followers of the Book and the polytheists shall be in the fire of hell, abiding therein; they are the worst of men.

Sura 111: "The Flame"
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we believe that nonmuslims cursed by allah , and wrath of God will be upon them in hearafter , and they will abide in eternal hell
it's not what i'm talking about

where in the world quran preach the muslims to hate others or killing them or deal with them badly because of thier faith ?

for what quran says about the statues of nonbelievers in hearafter , i feel pity for them not hateness
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we believe that nonmuslims cursed by allah , and wrath of God will be upon them in hearafter , and they will abide in eternal hell
it's not what i'm talking about

where in the world quran preach the muslims to hate others or killing them or deal with them badly because of thier faith ?

for what quran says about the statues of nonbelievers in hearafter , i feel pity for them not hateness
So, other religions are given equal rights in Muslim countries? You leave the determination of 'justice' in that regard to God, or do you persecute them?

The fact is, entire governments which are dedicated to Allah are stoning innocent people to death and allowing the rapists to roam freely to rape again.

Any human being who is seeing the world honestly understands that. Those who cannot see that Shariah is a curse upon the face of the earth is just brainwashed and cannot be spoken to anyway.

Demented, sick, perverted minds are somehow controlling entire countries.
There is no defense for the twisted determinations of these diseased old men.
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So, other religions are given equal rights in Muslim countries? You leave the determination of 'justice' in that regard to God, or do you persecute them?
yes they have the same rights and we don't persecuate them
the islamic laws be executed against muslims and non_muslims justly ,
the islamic laws prohibit people to kill , theft , rape , adultery in public ...etc
so anyone (muslims or nonmuslims ) exceeds the law , he get punished .
if the minority nonmuslims not satisfied with these islamic laws , so the majority satisfied with it . so can't we practise democracy in that matter ?

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The fact is, entire governments which are dedicated to Allah are stoning innocent people to death and allowing the rapists to roam freely to rape again.
for the thousand of times i telles you that it's not islamic behaviours , i really sick of that , no one wanna to hear , no one honest in discussions to know what is the actual teaching of islam regardless of what they hear from the news
i challange anyone to give me islamic sources or islamic sites or verse from quran or correct hadeeth encourage stonning innocent people
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All the Praises and thanks be to the Truth whose enemy are always the liars.

I didn't read all what you have posted, I stopped when I saw some fabrications (as usual).



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The Koran ITSELF preaches hateness of those of other religions. I have never read any other religion that is so blood thirsty and hate-filled. There is much more, but space is limited.
And this does not include the Shariah interpretation of such verses.

The following verses promote divisiveness and religious hatred, bigotry and discrimination. They must be either removed from the Koran or declared outdated and invalid, and marked as such:

2.6: Surely those who disbelieve, it being alike to them whether you warn them, or do not warn them, will not believe.
2.7: Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing and there is a covering over their eyes, and there is a great punishment for them.

OF THOSE WHO SAY THEY BELIEVE, BUT DO NOT MAYBE THEY JUST WANT TO GET
OUT OF PAYING THE TAXES LEVIED ON NON-MUSLIMS?

This is not the case, the verse is talking about the hypocrities who attak the truth and hide themselves under the name of Islam.

2.10: There is a disease in their hearts, so Allah added to their disease and they shall have a painful chastisement because they lie.
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2.88: And they say: Our hearts are covered. Nay, Allah has cursed them on account of their unbelief; so little it is that they believe.

2.89: And when there came to them a Book from Allah verifying that which they have, and aforetime they used to pray for victory against those who disbelieve, but when there came to them (Prophet) that which they did not recognize, they disbelieved in him; so Allah's curse is on the unbelievers.

It is:
but when there came to them (Prophet) that which they did recognize, they disbelieved in him; so Allah's curse is on the unbelievers.

See how you added (not) to decieve people!

Why shall I complete the discussion after this?
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All the Praises and thanks be to the Truth whose enemy are always the liars.

I didn't read all what you have posted, I stopped when I saw some fabrications (as usual).






Why shall I complete the discussion after this?
This was taken from a Muslim site.
They should know their own religion.
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yes they have the same rights and we don't persecuate them
the islamic laws be executed against muslims and non_muslims justly ,
the islamic laws prohibit people to kill , theft , rape , adultery in public ...etc
so anyone (muslims or nonmuslims ) exceeds the law , he get punished .
if the minority nonmuslims not satisfied with these islamic laws , so the majority satisfied with it . so can't we practise democracy in that matter ?


for the thousand of times i telles you that it's not islamic behaviours , i really sick of that , no one wanna to hear , no one honest in discussions to know what is the actual teaching of islam regardless of what they hear from the news
i challange anyone to give me islamic sources or islamic sites or verse from quran or correct hadeeth encourage stonning innocent people
Of course it is Islamic behaviors.
The reason why they do this is Shariah - Islamic law.

Why do you lie?
You know that Saudi Arabia forbids the importing of Christian bibles and forbids the wearing of crosses, yet in countries that are predominantly Christian you are allowed to wear burkas and openly read the Koran.

In other countries you are bound by civil law, and not the laws of any one religion, yet people coming to your country must follow the laws of YOUR religion, though it is not THEIR choice of religion.

You should not lie like this. Or are you so brainwashed that you can no longer tell the difference.
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Of course it is Islamic behaviors.
The reason why they do this is Shariah - Islamic law.

Why do you lie?
You know that Saudi Arabia forbids the importing of Christian bibles and forbids the wearing of crosses, yet in countries that are predominantly Christian you are allowed to wear burkas and openly read the Koran.
do you know that 100% of population in saudia are muslims ?
and of course the rights of foreigns are differs than citizens

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In other countries you are bound by civil law, and not the laws of any one religion, yet people coming to your country must follow the laws of YOUR religion, though it is not THEIR choice of religion.
shariah is the civil law of muslims , these laws have nothing to do with other relegions
you need to explore about shariah before talking about it , the informations of media not accurate usually specially when they talking about islam

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You should not lie like this. Or are you so brainwashed that you can no longer tell the difference.
you need to proof my lies , i will never lies about my relegion.
give me verses from quran or hadeeth which contradicts what i'm saying .
no one can accept my challenges , i wonder why ?
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