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Old 11-15-2008, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Ottawa, Canada
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look im not christian im agnostic. i believe in something out there but it certainly inst allah and a religion that has justified the murder of women and children.

i dunno moonsun if that was supposed to scare us or something with your koran text, but it didnt work, you look like a fool. its funny how you use the word "disbeliever", because there are so many religions out there that even if you pick one, the 20 others will say your a "non believer", adn hwo does that affect us??

look moon WE DONT BELIEVE IN ALLAH and so we dont care. theres a tonne of religions whos ay "believe this believe that". so moon? how do you know your right?? i coudl find you 100 chrisitans whod swear on their life there religion is right. 100 jews whos do the same so how r u sure? i dont like muslims. why? cause when a christian martyr or another religious martyr dies, they die for their religion alone and make a point. when a muslim one does, they take 20 women and children with them.


look the article is soo full of muslim propaganda and anti-western hate it sickening. she tries to further her position by demonizing western society for thier "violation of human rights"..

look at you own damn country women! saudi arabia women cant even drive. gays get thier heads cut off in public. and she has the nerve to complain about western society trying to stop the oppression of the hijab! shes jsut so brainwashed she cant see it. how convenient that onyl women have to wear it huh cause it "pleases allah" and men dont?? real convenient.. oh yeah and they cant decide who they marry, cant recieve an education and cant drive (in saudi) but of course its us, the western society whos the bad guys!!! because we all know saudi arabia would allow the basic human rights we do like freedom of speech, democracy, religion ect.. haha try and be a practicing christian and praying in the street!!

overall this women makes me enraged, but its pretty common for the modern muslim living in a western society to be ungrateful and attack the thing that gave them all their rights! pfft. and people wonder why some people wanna stop immigration form these coutnries or at the very least force them to conform..

they are so brainwashed they believe the oppression they are recieving is "in their own intrest" hahahahaha how pathetic. get out of the stone age muslims. our ancestors form europe exprieinced your war mongering religious fanatacism too!!!. about 400 years ago!!
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Old 11-16-2008, 10:02 AM
 
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This sound more Muslim propaganda than anything.
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Old 11-16-2008, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Ottawa, Canada
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This sound more Muslim propaganda than anything.
of course it is!!! notice how she tries to demonize the US and western society in general? referring to the war as a "crusade" (a classic use of propaganda which is used to scare the muslim popualtion into thinking we are coming to covnert them all or slaughter them all)

also how she attacks the westerns "huiman rights violations". what example does she give??? that the government is trying to stop the wearing of the hijab and stuff.

k why doesnt she go back to the middle east, lets say saudi, and see how well her freedom of speech works there? lets see how many other articles she'll write. or cars she'll drive? or hwo many times she'll go walking out alone without her husband?


ahaha it kinda reminds me of the Nazis attacking the allies on thier human rights..
hahahaha what a joke. and people wonder why we hate them? they get the rights we have given them and fought for them, and the ****ing rub it in the mud?? then in our face??? ahaha
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Old 11-16-2008, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Ottawa, Canada
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i truly believe that we as a society should be scared of things like this and our (well not mine) increasingly politically correct attitude towards garbage like this..

im going to try and keep left and right wing out of this, cause personally im an extremely socialist but i dont fall into the "left wing" due to my stance on war, abortion ect (there i fall into the "right wing")

i believe everyone should ahvea fair chance, but i also think kicking ass is nessecary sometimes.. anyways im getting of the point. so yeah ill trya nd keeep it polically neutral, because i believe this is a problem that left and right need to face as a common enemy.

this enemy wouldnt be such a danger, if peopel within our own society didnt agree and accept this! the thing is i knwo people who would read this and say "oh wow thats completely true"

they woudl eat up taht anti-western, anti-US garbage, because its now cool to be a "rebel". the media (including hollywood, so lets say any form of media rather then "the media" which often refers to news).. whos politcal bias will remain nameless.. has recently demonized the "american coporation", "the war in iraq", consumerism, capitalism and most western things. at the same time, ive seen a distressing increase in the glorification of the rebel, the freedom fighter and even the terrorist, who actions are ebign increasingly justified in our own media because "its the US's fault. we should look at how we treated the world and then we can see why they attacked us"

of course these medias at the same time totally dismiss the inhumane, barbaric way in which their attacks are carried out, whcih includes using civilian areas as basses to act as human shield (so if they are attacked, there will be civilian casualties and the worlds medai will be shocked at the irael or whatevr who were jsut defending themselves against a rocket attack) as well as suicide bombers who purposely attack women and children.

now lets go this this piece of crap we call an article..

so first she automatically sterotypes american women as having no cofidence and only getting thier self esteem form how much guys pay attention to you.. oh wait before i wirte more. let me say its important in these articles to look at underlying messages. the deeper things she is really implying when she says all these things..

for example if i were to say "oh that girl only likes to get attention (obviously form guys because when you talk about beauty most girls arent looking for compliments form women, which is what the writer of this article is implying) and dress scampy... what would you think automatically??? this girl might kinda be permiscuous? another word thats bad and starts with Wh? of course!! and thats what the writer of this articles trying to imply too! cause one of the main islam things is convering up your body, chastity, and if not, your a *****. shes basically saying all american women are whores. anwyas ill continue..

she then says that as she become concerned with looks, her hapiness fell.. ohh i get it. its a muslim sin.. to concentrate too much on oneself is selfish and vain.. oh so nwo shes relating her muslim alws to it. cause as we know, people who concentrate on looking good are shllow and empty and feel like ****!! good thing the writer is here to guide the way!!!

she trid to take refuge in 9find a meaning to her life) in alcohol and parties? which is normal for teens and someone whos lost in life ok, i agree. the she says she tried meditation and other religions, but the gap only widened... (oh of course cause other religions are all wrong!!! theres onyl one!1 your perfect muslim one of course!!! cause its soo orgional that rleigion and different form other ones)

now the part that pisses me off most.. a "barage on islam". the "new crusade". excuse me.. msulims ttacked and kileld thousands of innocent people. any "barrage" they exprienced was well jsutified and more. and to refer to it as a "crusade" when a counter attack was wlel justified, is nothign more than standard textbook 101 muslim propaganda

shes a feminsits and libertarian?? ahha the worlds top human rights violaters in the world (excluding china) are muslim countries!! women lack basic human rights, are clearly oppressed. are forced to have female circumcision and more... yeah ok.. your a feminist.. waht a ****ing joke..

and yet agian she claims "[SIZE=2] self-fulfilling activism was nothing more than merely embracing a faith called Islam where I could live in peace as a “functional” Muslim."[/SIZE]e even though she was an activist for rights (or so she says) and muslims are the worst violaters.. uh huh..

[SIZE=2]"I no longer spent all my time consumed with shopping, makeup, getting my hair done, and working out. Finally, I was free." [/SIZE]ummm waht is wrong with working out? its a scientifical fact that it realses hormones that makes you feel good. it increases your energy and allows you to be more productive.. or if she was implying that it was vian, i yet agian ask waht is wrong with making your outside look as good as you feel like inside??? i eman if i feel great inside! i take the time to do my hair, im mor consious of the clothes i wear, i smile more!!! its only human!! but i guess that msut be hard for a women like her to understand whos a slave to her husband and slave to her "god"

yet agian i couldnt overlook this. she referred to Florida... the worlds capital of senior citizens as "[SIZE=2]what some call “the most scandalous place on earth,"[/SIZE] ahhahahahahahahha id like to know who calls it that hahahahahaha. maybe she was refering to the united states??? but then again by islamic standards, Europe, wiht its openly gay attitude and abortion rules, is alot more the opposite of islam..... anyways haha ill never get over that one..

"[SIZE=2]Today I am still a feminist,but a Muslim feminist[/SIZE]" this whole paragraph is too big to put.. but the whole things scares me... the tone of religious fevour, of religious righteousness parrallesl so much to the nazis its scary. thye should "fight for the right".. since when is it a right to be oppressed..

and the worst.. the last line... "[SIZE=2]To you, the ill-fated corrupting conquerors of civilization, so-called crusaders, I say: BRING IT ON.[/SIZE]" wow.. ummm can anyoen comment on this?? words like "ultimate muslim propaganda" come to mind... also words like "nukes are the only solution".. seriously.. this type of religious righteousness in our society!! she didnt even grow up in the middle east and she believes that ****!!!?!?!?!? how are they learning that over here????

look we ahve a group that is using our freedom of speech, of safety and security to thier own ends.... we try and stop them, they claim we are "rascists, or xenophobes". they ahve learned our system and they are using our liberties and freedoms, which were meant to help people, to use against our society!


the msot obvious case was that sikh teacher who was allowed to bring his ceremonial knife to schooL!!! despite there being school rules against it!! and despite there beign a number of stabbings involving those knives in the area!!!! and despite our charter of rights (canada) specifically saying "rights can be overulled if it is done in the best intrest or safety of the people or for the people". it also ignored the students rights to safety and security as guarenteed by our charter. these 4 were obviously ignored for the more politically correct "religious rights" that this man was fighting for...

be carefull.. soon muclim men will be allowed to beat their wife because we have to "consider of cultures and hwo the y do things cause if we stop them we are rascist".... be very careful people
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Old 11-18-2008, 05:58 AM
 
Location: Ottawa, Canada
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i guess everyone isnt as fired up as me about this topic.. i thought it was going to be a heated debate... seems like msot of us are just in passive agreement though...
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Old 11-18-2008, 06:30 AM
 
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[quote][SIZE=2]Today I am still a feminist,but a Muslim feminist,who calls on Muslim women to assume their responsibilities in providing all the support they can for their husbands to be good Muslims.[quote] lol. Doesn't sound like she knows what feminism is.
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Old 11-18-2008, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Ottawa, Canada
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[quote=Spindle;6206893][quote][SIZE=2]Today I am still a feminist,but a Muslim feminist,who calls on Muslim women to assume their responsibilities in providing all the support they can for their husbands to be good Muslims.
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lol. Doesn't sound like she knows what feminism is.
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haha yeah. well i mean you can be a feminist and still have a husband you love and support completely (unless of course we argue the definition of a feminist and talk about feminists have completely trampled the rights of menin their quest for "equality).

but if your talking about the irony and contradiction between muslim and feminist, your absolutely right...

in a majorty of "muslim countries", women are openly oppressed and this is accepted. now I know someone like her could scream and say "women wearing hijabs are being oppressed!!" but this is a very short cry from "muslims are being oppressed, which is completely untrue"

go to "true muslim" countries liek saudi arabia, and go to the chop block every friday. " There you can see public executions of gays, murderers and "cheating wives". i put "cheating" in brackets because the "evidence used is so shaky and can even include just talking to another man..

This article makes me mad cause shes a filthy hypocryte who dares to insult readers intelligence by using the word "muslim" in the same sentence as words like "feminist","rights" and "activists". And of course I am not tlaking about "a muslim could never be a feminist because its an oppressive religion by nature". nor am I talking about using it like "Muslim countries are the worst violators of human rights, and so for a muslim to even comment on the Wests human rights violations is like Hitler condemning a murderer..."

thos last two sentences are basically the only context muslim can be used with those words.. I'm sure people here can think of more examples of how those two can be used together??


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Old 11-18-2008, 08:14 AM
 
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This article makes me mad cause shes a filthy hypocryte who dares to insult readers intelligence by using the word "muslim" in the same sentence as words like "feminist","rights" and "activists".
the whole article and her reasoning gives the reader the impression that she is not particularly bright to begin with.
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Old 11-18-2008, 11:19 AM
 
Location: NYC area
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I am an American woman who was born in the midst of America’s “Heartland.”I grew up, just like any other girl, being fixated with the glamour of life in “the big city.”Eventually, I moved to Florida and on to South Beach of Miami, a hotspot for those seeking the “glamorous life.”Naturally, I did what most average Western girls do.I focused on my appearance and appeal, basing my self-worth on how much attention I got from others.I worked out religiously and became a personal trainer, acquired an upscale waterfront residence, became a regular “exhibiting” beach-goer and was able to attain a “living-in-style” kind of life.
Sounds like a Cold War-era type PSA. Totally made up.
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Old 11-18-2008, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Pikeville, Ky.
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Well, I am very seriously considering exchanging my one peice suit for this. Seriously, without the headgear It would sure cover a lifetime of sun damage done by bikinis and two piece suits
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