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Old 11-22-2008, 06:13 PM
 
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in the mid east the sin of rape seems to fall on the woman for some unexplained reason.
"she tempted him" i dont think its an islamic thing i think its a mideastern thing.
in the west its the man that is the bad guy no matter what, even if the woman leads him down the garden path, e.g. mike tyson case. if there is something inappropriate in the west sexually, its about the guy never the woman.
There was also a case of a young man on vacation in Dubai with his mom. He was out on his own and raped by 3 strange men. He reported them. He was imprisoned. The rapists were not even looked for.

The mom tried every legal means she could to get him released.

Only when she started getting the attention of the international press did they release him.

The story given was that these countries want to pretend such things do not happen there, because of their great religion of peace, or maybe, in the case of Dubai, not wanting to discourage tourism.

So, if they punish the people who report being raped, fewer people will report it. Once, years back, the US pulled the same bs. We had a backward society that would not openly discuss anything of a sexual nature. It was easy for a government to blame the victim.

It was only when more and more cases appeared in the newspapers, thank god for our freedom of the press, that the public got up in arms, demanding that the purpetrators be punished and the innocent be protected.

This happened with the case of Catholic pedophile priests, too. At first it was just rumored. Then more and more cases were reported and the press investigated and carried stories.

I would hope that the world press would carry enough of these stories that these Islamic countries and the 'religion of peace' would start to give solice to the victims and, golly, at least LOOK for the perps.
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Old 11-22-2008, 06:14 PM
 
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regardless of relegions
i think that the woman is the one should to be most care and most blame if such intercourse happened by her will , because she is the one who bear the children
i dont mean at all to mention the punishemnt , the punishment should to be for all of them
i just talking about , why the mideast culture blame the women more than men , it's because she should to be more care

One word - abortion.
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Old 11-22-2008, 06:18 PM
 
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exactly , this is the point
that's why i asked you this question
as long as you more relegious as long as your individual behaviour become more rightious
but may be you find someone not relegious , then testify his behaviours by relegion in vain

you said

my openion which you agree with me in is that
it's imopssible to know where any relegion stands by behaviours of some of it's followers
By silence, the people and the religion consents to injustice.
These atrocities or stoning are perpetrated by mullahs - representatives of the faith; by Shariah law, which is the interpretation of the religion.
You are just being silly in your answer.
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Old 11-22-2008, 06:22 PM
 
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Islam seems to have a pattern of removing any person who claims that they have been raped.
Yet, if they don't report they were raped, it will be discovered after their wedding they are not virgins and guess what.
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Old 11-22-2008, 10:58 PM
 
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By silence, the people and the religion consents to injustice.
These atrocities or stoning are perpetrated by mullahs - representatives of the faith; by Shariah law, which is the interpretation of the religion.
You are just being silly in your answer.
was it happened by mullahs ?
do you know that this expression called for shiits only ?
well , i'm sunni
actually 90% of muslims in the world are sunni muslims
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Old 11-23-2008, 08:05 AM
 
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was it happened by mullahs ?
do you know that this expression called for shiits only ?
well , i'm sunni
actually 90% of muslims in the world are sunni muslims
Elwil,
I think you are a good person and well intentioned.
There are similarities between what your religion is going through and what nations that you think of as 'Christian' have.
We, in the past, lived in a degree of isolation and thought our religious beliefs were the only right ones. Many thought that God found their country special and that they would eventually blanket the entire globe with their brand of Christianity or politics.
We also did not tolerate outsiders or ideas that were strange to us. We even would blame raped women for provoking the attack.

We gave up rule by religious law a long time ago. There are still some who long for the 'good old days', but for most of us these people are borderline fanatics among us and the good old days were not so good for many of us.

I think the West was saved by the concept of democracy, that we must learn tolerance for the ideas and actions of others so long as they do not hurt anyone or try to impose their traditions on others. I think this is the basis for the differences that Islam has with the rest of the world.

Islam creates people who commit wrongs against others, who hurt others. It is in no way surprising that most do not believe it to be a religion of peace.

Many people look upon religions that are autocratic and stern as primitive, and hope that the followers will eventually evolve into a healthier attitude that will have respect for the individual.
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