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Old 12-09-2008, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by souhilo1 View Post
NBC NEWS:20000 americans Convert To ISLAM Each Year!
This subject was dealt with in the History Channel series called, "The Children of Abraham". It was a three part series narrated by Mark Dowd, a Catholic who trained to be a Dominican Friar and dealt with the three major religions to come from Abraham, namely Judism, Christianity & Islam. A man of American Jewish background who converted to Islam and is interviewed by Dowd. This subject of the fastest growing religion did come up, but it also brought out that no one is allowed to leave or they die. Given the death penalty nature of the faith , it's impossible to make a growth/decrease comparison with any other religions.

Couple that with the fact that most converts are born into the religion. Although polygamy is allowed it is not necessarily practiced everywhere in Islam. However there is a Tempoary Marriage clause allowed for temporary marriage for a man who is away from his family for a long period of time and has need of sexual relations. This temporary marriage allows for this arrangement to not be viewed as sinful and also legitimizes any children born out of the relationship.

With incresing frequency religion in general is being blamed either directly or indirectly for the global population explosion. For example one of the first religions to come to mind is the Catholic church's stance against of opposing most birth control measures. Now however, a World Health Organization official, Abdel R Omran, an Arab, admits in the U.N. "Ceres" magazine that Islam is also involved in the problem. He notes that it's religious leaders "invoke religious doctrine to oppose family planning". Further, Mr Omran adds that in most of the countries where Islam predominates, for "sociocultural" reasons "it is still essential for women to be highly fertile . . . . . and contraception is not widely accepted." This comes from the July/August 1974 issue. So the opposition to modern birth control has been around for a long time. This would also contribute to more converts through birth, with the forbidden conversion law to another faith.

So there are many factors to consider when making this statement.

Anyway here was the link to Part II of that episode.

Islam: Children of Abraham - Part Two Video

Last edited by bluepacific; 12-09-2008 at 08:26 AM.. Reason: spelling
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Old 12-09-2008, 09:54 AM
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Also.. why does the statement:

NBC NEWS:20000 americans Convert To ISLAM Each Year!

Require an exclamation mark at the end?

Exclamation mark - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As such, I can only assume you have strong feelings about the statement.

Care to share what those feelings are or are we left to our own conclusions?
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Old 12-09-2008, 10:06 AM
Location: Montrose, CA
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He made several similar posts within a very few minutes. *shrug* Smells of typical spammage to me.
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Old 12-09-2008, 12:13 PM
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This thread is a combination of five(5!) similar threads all started by the same OP.
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Old 12-09-2008, 12:28 PM
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Ah....But we non religious are growing much faster...

The American Religious Identification Survey gave Non-Religious groups the largest gain in terms of absolute numbers - 14,300,000 (8.4% of the population) to 29,400,000 (14.1% of the population) for the period 1990 to 2001 in the USA.

In Australia, census data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics gives "no religion" the largest gains in absolute numbers over the 15 years from 1991 to 2006. from 2,948,888 (18.2% of the population that answered the question) to 3,706,555 (21.0% of the population that answered the question).
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Old 12-09-2008, 01:37 PM
Location: Boise
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Originally Posted by souhilo1 View Post
135 Americans Convert to Islam
So, not to sound rude, but do you happen to have any posts that aren't about Islam taking over the world? Don't get me wrong, it's good to know but you are taking things to near spammer levels.

I'll give benefit of the doubt and assume you weren't aware of the "though shalt not spam" rule. Next time, try putting this all in one post...

and have a good day
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Old 12-09-2008, 05:38 PM
Location: Seward, Alaska
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What happened to Sinur (a convert from Islam to Christian)

Testimony of Sinur
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Old 12-10-2008, 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by BudinAk View Post
What happened to Sinur (a convert from Islam to Christian)

Testimony of Sinur
Sadly there are numerous individuals interested in the Christian faith who are Moslem. However, fear of death penalty and mistreatment of family frighten many. This individual in the link was from Iran. Many Moslems here in Sweden are from Iran and Iraq. If there becomes a Christian group from these religious backgrounds and cultures, the danger is that there are Islamic spies within their ranks who report an individuals family details back to Iran and cause terrible problems for families there. The other problem here is the honor killings from family members here in Sweden that make the news. I'm not trying to be unkind here, but it is a massive reality here and other parts of the earth. Murder is the penalty for leaving the Islamic faith.

Those most reprehensible are as usual, the clergyman of those various Moslem religious systems. It's certainly not something that has been fabricated as propaganda against Islam. Just turn on the news anywhere.

To get back to the original posters assertion of the world converting to Islam. What if the world would be a total Islamic faith, would mankind be better off ??? All one has to do is observe how those predominently Moslem run countries benefit from strict and rigid control. There are so many factions within the Islamic movement. So many denominations much as you find within Christendom and peace and security is the last thing that reigns supreme in those lands. The ambitions of men dominating over other men with an iron fisted control. Shiite hating Sunni, Sunni and Shiite hating Kurds, etc, etc, etc. Even specific Moslem countries hating other Moslem countries and going to war with each other. Surely this has nothing to do with a loving creator and his purpose for mankind on earth.

The evidence even shows that the common citizen within these countries is tired of the garbage going on within their own religion. I saw a news clip of a Moslem woman in Iraq who said she goes to the Mosque to listen to prayers to God, but all the Imam, Mullah, Ayatollah or whatever religious title for the leadership, all he preaches is "Jihad Jihad". The sentiment seems to become universal with the common believer. They are fed up with these men's political, power and wealth ambitions and they want it to end. Fortunately it will one day end with the dissolving of all religious systems. Although it will come at the hands of this world's governments, it will actually be the backing of Almighty God who finds all such religious hypocracy an ambarassment and offensive to his way of ruling and leading mankind.

It will be interesting just how it all plays out. However it does, the bible says it will be a complete and utter shock to the majority of mankind who won't be expecting it. Even secularists will be shocked and amazed. But if mankind is ever going to see peace and security on this planet, then all element of wickedness with regard to religion in general has to be eliminated.
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