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Old 01-08-2009, 04:57 PM
 
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So if we only carry a nature of sin, we're not necessarily sinful from birth, and should not be paying for our "sins" perhaps?
what in green is logical but the brown is not
but that does not mean jesus is the one who will pay or already paid
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Old 01-08-2009, 05:09 PM
 
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but this does not make us guilty
Yes it does, we are all born bent away from God with a sinful nature, and only Jesus and make us right before God.
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Old 01-09-2009, 02:49 PM
 
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Yes it does, we are all born bent away from God with a sinful nature, and only Jesus and make us right before God.


this is irrational
like getting a speeding ticket before speeding just because having a fast car
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Old 01-09-2009, 04:45 PM
 
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this is irrational
like getting a speeding ticket before speeding just because having a fast car
No, it's Biblical
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Old 01-10-2009, 05:10 AM
 
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this is irrational
No, it's Biblical
And that explains everything, doesn't it.
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Old 01-10-2009, 12:44 PM
 
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And that explains everything, doesn't it.

In Islam, Jesus (`Isa in Arabic) is considered one of the five greatest prophets sent by God to mankind. Muslims’ knowledge about Jesus is based on the two main sources of Islamic knowledge: the Qur’an and Hadith. In the Qur’an, Jesus is referred to as `Isa ibn Maryam, or Jesus, the son of Mary. The story of Mary and Jesus is best described in the Qur’an in the surahs of Aal `Imran and Maryam.

The Story of Mary and the Birth of Jesus - Reading Islam.com (http://www.readingislam.com/servlet/Satellite?c=Article_C&cid=1154235129654&pagename=Z one-English-Discover_Islam%2FDIELayout - broken link)
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Old 01-11-2009, 07:37 AM
 
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I have never been able to grasp original sin. We are supposed to pay for only our own sins. I do think babies are born pure and clean. That isn't to say that they will be pure and clean for their entire lives, only Jesus has done that. But saying that a baby that is just born is a sinner is ridiculous. Just my opinion.
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Old 01-16-2009, 08:21 PM
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from the moment of conception we are with sin.(you can not teach a baby to be selfish they already know............
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Old 01-16-2009, 08:34 PM
 
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Question It has become almost impossible to understand!

Just my humble understanding:

When the ancients - for whatever insufficiently researched and understood reasons - started to abdicate equality by this since very refined method of destroying communication, some of them "recorded" this (in their "primitive ways") as a warning to the coming generations, otherwise a fine "tradition" would have been lost forever.

Sounds whacky? Not to me.

I may not like the Christian "belief system", but the bible is an invaluable source for this research into the meaning of wholesome life and living.

Last edited by effie g-tad; 01-16-2009 at 08:42 PM..
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Old 03-24-2009, 02:54 PM
 
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