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Old 01-08-2009, 12:28 PM
 
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Adam and Eve committed a sin in heaven
Allah punished them and got them out of heaven
They cried and ask Allah forgiveness and they repent
Allah forgave them and accepted their repent
The case is over.

Then we got born without any sin clean and pure
We have no right to blame them and no one has the right to give us his sin.
Same thing no one will carry our sins.
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:45 PM
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I agree, but you know, JC is the one who makes all the decissions, not Allah....
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:45 PM
 
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We have no right to blame them and no one has the right to give us his sin.
Same thing no one will carry our sins.
Man does not ďcarry Adamís sinĒ. We are born with Adamís nature of sin. Big difference. I encourage everyone to study this.

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Then we got born without any sin clean and pure
If what you say is true then you should be able to point to a person who has lived a full life that is perfect or sinless. If there is truth in what you have been taught and believe you should be able to identify more than the One who has lived a sinless life.
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:52 PM
 
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If what you say is true then you should be able to point to a person who has lived a full life that is perfect or sinless.
If I'm not mistaken, he's only claiming that we're born sinless, not that we then can live our lives without sinning.
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Old 01-08-2009, 01:00 PM
 
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Adam and Eve committed sin in the Garden of Eden when they rebelled against God and disobeyed Him. Everyone born has inherited the sinful nature of Adam and Eve, but God has provided a way for us to be forgiven and His name is Jesus Christ.
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Old 01-08-2009, 01:00 PM
 
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Adam and Eve committed a sin in heaven
Allah punished them and got them out of heaven
They cried and ask Allah forgiveness and they repent
Allah forgave them and accepted their repent
The case is over.

Then we got born without any sin clean and pure
We have no right to blame them and no one has the right to give us his sin.
Same thing no one will carry our sins.

The case may be over, the games must go on (to quote the late Avery Brundage).
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Old 01-08-2009, 01:06 PM
 
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If I'm not mistaken, he's only claiming that we're born sinless, not that we then can live our lives without sinning.
exactly
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Old 01-08-2009, 02:31 PM
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Man does not ďcarry Adamís sinĒ. We are born with Adamís nature of sin. Big difference. I encourage everyone to study this.
So if we only carry a nature of sin, we're not necessarily sinful from birth, and should not be paying for our "sins" perhaps?

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If what you say is true then you should be able to point to a person who has lived a full life that is perfect or sinless. If there is truth in what you have been taught and believe you should be able to identify more than the One who has lived a sinless life.
What would you consider perfect or sinless? Is there even such a thing?
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Old 01-08-2009, 04:00 PM
 
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I agree, but you know, JC is the one who makes all the decissions, not Allah....

Allah is the God
Jesus is the prophet
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Old 01-08-2009, 04:21 PM
 
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Adam and Eve committed sin in the Garden of Eden when they rebelled against God and disobeyed Him. Everyone born has inherited the sinful nature of Adam and Eve, but God has provided a way for us to be forgiven and His name is Jesus Christ.

but this does not make us guilty
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