U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality > Islam
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 01-31-2009, 02:52 PM
 
1,186 posts, read 2,064,522 times
Reputation: 91

Advertisements

who is the helper in minutes 1:42
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 01-31-2009, 04:16 PM
 
353 posts, read 790,863 times
Reputation: 607
Wait.... THE Jesus is on Youtube? Is he sending videos from heaven now?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-01-2009, 01:28 AM
 
Location: Not where I want to be
1,113 posts, read 2,257,089 times
Reputation: 440
This is all very entertaining. You would think moon would learn his lesson by now. Don't make us beat you with the Bible.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-01-2009, 07:35 AM
 
Location: NC, USA
7,088 posts, read 13,044,384 times
Reputation: 3984
Quote:
Originally Posted by anaarkh View Post
Yes this is the most overlooked of all Christian doctrine. The carrying of the camcorder by James
well......actually....... it wasn't carried by james, it was toted around by peter, petrus, the rock, so named not because of his steadfastness, but because he was absolutely as dense as a brick, never got a single idea right, ergo, "petrus" This ancient relic later became known as the holy sony!! It and the grail were placed in the cave of life together!!! How else do you think indiana jones got that sacred and holy footage of ole' "whats-his-name" drinking from the wrong mug???? Every one knows videotape doesn't last that long, How can you deny another of gods miracles?????? HEATHENS!!!!!!!

Last edited by Dusty Rhodes; 02-01-2009 at 07:44 AM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-01-2009, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Tulsa
2,529 posts, read 3,872,751 times
Reputation: 550
Quote:
Originally Posted by moonsun View Post
who is the helper in minutes 1:42
The Holy Spirit.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-02-2009, 07:50 AM
 
1,186 posts, read 2,064,522 times
Reputation: 91
Quote:
Originally Posted by mzjamiedawn View Post
The Holy Spirit.
did he come

did he do as Jesus said
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-02-2009, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Tulsa
2,529 posts, read 3,872,751 times
Reputation: 550
Quote:
Originally Posted by moonsun View Post
did he come

did he do as Jesus said
Yes.

John 15:26-27... "But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning."

The Holy Spirit inspired the men to write the epistles. The Holy Spirit also guides us into all truth as we read it.

John 16:13..."Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: fore he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come."

He has shown us, in the Bible. We don't need the Quran, or the Book of Mormon, or the Watchtower...only His Word.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-02-2009, 11:48 AM
 
1,186 posts, read 2,064,522 times
Reputation: 91
Quote:
Originally Posted by mzjamiedawn View Post
Yes.

John 15:26-27... "But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning."

The Holy Spirit inspired the men to write the epistles. The Holy Spirit also guides us into all truth as we read it.

John 16:13..."Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: fore he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come."

He has shown us, in the Bible. We don't need the Quran, or the Book of Mormon, or the Watchtower...only His Word.

his word is to follow the the next prophet after him

And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. (John 14:16-17, KJV)

Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. (John 16:7KJV)

This means that "the Comforter" is someone who would come after the departure of Jesus. In fact "the Holy Spirit" was active according to the Old Testament as well as the Gospels, before the departure of Jesus. So the predicted "Comforter" was someone other than the Holy Spirit.


And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: Of sin, because they believe not on me; Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. (John 16:8-13, KJV)

Muhammad in the New Testament - Reading Islam.com - Ask About Islam
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-02-2009, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Tulsa
2,529 posts, read 3,872,751 times
Reputation: 550
Quote:
Originally Posted by moonsun View Post
his word is to follow the the next prophet after him

And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. (John 14:16-17, KJV)

Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. (John 16:7KJV)

This means that "the Comforter" is someone who would come after the departure of Jesus. In fact "the Holy Spirit" was active according to the Old Testament as well as the Gospels, before the departure of Jesus. So the predicted "Comforter" was someone other than the Holy Spirit.


And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: Of sin, because they believe not on me; Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. (John 16:8-13, KJV)

Muhammad in the New Testament - Reading Islam.com - Ask About Islam
With all due respect, moonsun, you and the site you got this answer from is wrong. The Comforter spoken of was/is the Holy Spirit. He spoke through the writers of the NT.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-02-2009, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Orlando, Florida
43,858 posts, read 44,607,095 times
Reputation: 58621
moonsun, if you are looking for truths regarding what Jesus did or did not say, it would be best to actually read the accounts in the Bible....rather than trying to figure it out through a Hollywood movie. If you need any direct scripture links that will let you read for yourself, instead of someone else telling you what they think Jesus said, please feel free to pm me.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality > Islam
Similar Threads
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2019, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top