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Old 02-18-2009, 11:42 AM
 
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do you find the word God in the original langauge of the holy books

or do you find a name for God in the original langauge of the holy books
sound like God

i want to know how the name of God became God

is there any verse saying or meaning some thing like my name is God
The Word is a person, Jesus.

John 1:1-3
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through Him all things were made; without Him nothing was made that has been made.
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Old 02-18-2009, 11:52 AM
 
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The Word is a person, Jesus.

John 1:1-3
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through Him all things were made; without Him nothing was made that has been made.
you seem to have missed the whole meaning of the question, where did the word God come from?
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Old 02-18-2009, 11:57 AM
 
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What fascinates me about this debate by those who do not wish to acknowledge the Biblical personal name of God, is that they will readily acknowledge the names of other ancient civilizations gods. Example, if we hear the names "Osiris" , "Amon Ra" , "Isis" , "Horus", "Set" , "Thoth" , etc, we think of Egypt. Even Pharoah thought he was a god. When we hear names of "Atlas" , "Zeus" , "Artemis" , "Apollo" , "Aphrodite" , "Hermes" , "Poseidon" , etc, we think of ancient Greece.

How about Roman gods , "Saturn" , Mars, etc ??????????

Incredible !!!
I'm aware of the other fictional gods you mentioned as well as your fictional god. What is your point?
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Old 02-18-2009, 12:03 PM
 
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bluepacific, where precisely does YOUR credit go (2)???
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Old 02-18-2009, 01:42 PM
 
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Everyone's opinion is worth something, if only to themselves,however I find it interesting as to how this name came about,if the Hebrew translation from YHWH is I AM,I would still be interested in knowing where the word God came from and what is its meaning.Just a thought.
It is a relatively recent English usage . . so there is considerable debate about its etymology.

From the Oxford English Dictionary:

"god (gρd). Also 3-4 godd. [Com. Teut.: OE. god (masc. in sing.; pl. godu, godo neut., godas masc.) corresponds to OFris., OS., Du. god masc., OHG. got, cot (MHG. got, mod.Ger. gott) masc., ON. gođ, guđ neut. and masc., pl. gođ, guđ neut. (later Icel. pl. guđir masc.; Sw., Da. gud), Goth. guŢ (masc. in sing.; pl. guŢa, guda neut.). The Goth. and ON. words always follow the neuter declension, though when used in the Christian sense they are syntactically masc. The OTeut. type is therefore *guđom neut., the adoption of the masculine concord being presumably due to the Christian use of the word. The neuter sb., in its original heathen use, would answer rather to L. numen than to L. deus. Another approximate equivalent of deus in OTeut. was *ansu-z (Goth. in latinized pl. form anses, ON. ρss, OE. Ós- in personal names, ésa genit. pl.); but this seems to have been applied only to the higher deities of the native pantheon, never to foreign gods; and it never came into Christian use.

The ulterior etymology is disputed. Apart from the unlikely hypothesis of adoption from some foreign tongue, the OTeut. *gubom implies as its pre-Teut. type either *ghudho-m or *ghutó-m. The former does not appear to admit of explanation; but the latter would represent the neut. of the passive pple. of a root *gheu-. There are two Aryan roots of the required form (both *glheu, with palatal aspirate): one meaning ‘to invoke’ (Skr. hū), the other ‘to pour, to offer sacrifice’ (Skr. hu, Gr. χέειν, OE. yéotan YETE v.). Hence *glhutó-m has been variously interpreted as ‘what is invoked’ (cf. Skr. puru-hūta ‘much-invoked’, an epithet of Indra) and as ‘what is worshipped by sacrifice’ (cf. Skr. hutá, which occurs in the sense ‘sacrificed to’ as well as in that of ‘offered in sacrifice’). Either of these conjectures is fairly plausible, as they both yield a sense practically coincident with the most obvious definition deducible from the actual use of the word, ‘an object of worship’.

Some scholars, accepting the derivation from the root *glheu- to pour, have supposed the etymological sense to be ‘molten image’ (= Gr. χυγόν), but the assumed development of meaning seems very unlikely.
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Old 02-18-2009, 02:13 PM
 
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It is a relatively recent English usage . . so there is considerable debate about its etymology.

From the Oxford English Dictionary:

"god (gρd). Also 3-4 godd. [Com. Teut.: OE. god (masc. in sing.; pl. godu, godo neut., godas masc.) corresponds to OFris., OS., Du. god masc., OHG. got, cot (MHG. got, mod.Ger. gott) masc., ON. gođ, guđ neut. and masc., pl. gođ, guđ neut. (later Icel. pl. guđir masc.; Sw., Da. gud), Goth. guŢ (masc. in sing.; pl. guŢa, guda neut.). The Goth. and ON. words always follow the neuter declension, though when used in the Christian sense they are syntactically masc. The OTeut. type is therefore *guđom neut., the adoption of the masculine concord being presumably due to the Christian use of the word. The neuter sb., in its original heathen use, would answer rather to L. numen than to L. deus. Another approximate equivalent of deus in OTeut. was *ansu-z (Goth. in latinized pl. form anses, ON. ρss, OE. Ós- in personal names, ésa genit. pl.); but this seems to have been applied only to the higher deities of the native pantheon, never to foreign gods; and it never came into Christian use.

The ulterior etymology is disputed. Apart from the unlikely hypothesis of adoption from some foreign tongue, the OTeut. *gubom implies as its pre-Teut. type either *ghudho-m or *ghutó-m. The former does not appear to admit of explanation; but the latter would represent the neut. of the passive pple. of a root *gheu-. There are two Aryan roots of the required form (both *glheu, with palatal aspirate): one meaning ‘to invoke’ (Skr. hū), the other ‘to pour, to offer sacrifice’ (Skr. hu, Gr. χέειν, OE. yéotan YETE v.). Hence *glhutó-m has been variously interpreted as ‘what is invoked’ (cf. Skr. puru-hūta ‘much-invoked’, an epithet of Indra) and as ‘what is worshipped by sacrifice’ (cf. Skr. hutá, which occurs in the sense ‘sacrificed to’ as well as in that of ‘offered in sacrifice’). Either of these conjectures is fairly plausible, as they both yield a sense practically coincident with the most obvious definition deducible from the actual use of the word, ‘an object of worship’.

Some scholars, accepting the derivation from the root *glheu- to pour, have supposed the etymological sense to be ‘molten image’ (= Gr. χυγόν), but the assumed development of meaning seems very unlikely.

Basically it sounds like they're just guessing also, seems as though nobody really knows where the word God came from, why not just call it The Great I AM, which is roughly the translation from Hebrew, that way you're also not assigning any gender to it and at that point I would think it would satisfy everybody, both male and female. Just a thought and thanks for the explanation.
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Old 02-18-2009, 02:35 PM
 
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I'm aware of the other fictional gods you mentioned as well as your fictional god. What is your point?
So what's your point ???
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Old 02-18-2009, 09:43 PM
 
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what is the difference between god and God ?

is there a universal name for God ?
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:48 PM
 
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what is the difference between god and God ?

is there a universal name for God ?
The Bible acknowledge that there are millions of gods. The Bible says a person can make their own belly their god. In the various middle eastern countries people march through the streets with posters of a particular religious clergyman and chanting this one's name. They unknowingly worship this man as their god. In Iran they worshipped Ayatollah Khomeni , in Shiah Iraq , they worship this guy Al Sadir, in other parts of the world the extremists worship Osama Bin Laden, etc. In the land of the USA where I come from, many in modern times have dumped the God of the Bible for a worship of self. They are called me-ists, they are devout followers of me-ism, which is only the worship of self. Even where people in the USA claim to be religious, they allow charismatic Clergyman to set up Mega-Churches and allow the individual a sort of devine like status symbol and they worship the man. People seem to have the imperfect tendency to worship the creation rather than the creator. There appears to be the need to worship what they see , rather than what they don't see. The word god is only a noun or title, it's not a name, it is simply often used in a generic sense to describe a diety that is worshipped.

I see you still do not have an answer for Moses God and in reality that is what all of this is about. You can open up as many threads as you wish to achieve the deseire response , but in the end nothing will have changed. You could even orchestrate the destruction of the ancient manuscripts hidden away under lock and key in various libraries and museums across the planet , but the truth would still remain the truth on this matter.
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Old 02-18-2009, 11:28 PM
 
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the god of Moses is Allah
the god of Jesus is Allah
the god of Muhammad is Allah

there is only one true god you call him God but his name is also Allah

and regrading the miracles of prophet Muhammad here are some

Splitting of the Moon
Food Multiplication
Water Multiplication
Supplication for Rain
Lights to guide Companions
Crying of the stem of the Date-palm Tree
Glorification of Allah by the Prophet's meals
The explusion of a liar's corpse by the Earth
The Speech of the Wolf
The Prophet's Night Journey to Jerusalem and Ascent to the Heavens
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