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Old 02-24-2009, 09:33 AM
 
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Interesting to say the least, but it begs the question: If the Quran is talking about special relativity why did it take 1200 years to come up with the theory? There has been many great scientific minds in the middle east long before Einstein. Maybe Einstein was reading the Quran and had an epiphany. Or maybe this verse really has nothing to do with relativity, and we are wishful thinking.
it take 1200 years to come up with the theory for asking ourselfs how mohammed (pbuh) said such words from his ownself in his time

muslims believe that quran will still miracle forever , so that it have these kinds of indications which proof that it's god's words
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Old 02-24-2009, 10:06 AM
 
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Elwill, do you know of a group that hands out free qurans?
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Old 02-25-2009, 11:00 AM
 
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hey everybody ,
just wanted to add another verse which is very relative to the topic " speacial relativity "

Moslems believe that Paradise and Hell are both much bigger and much more massive than Earth (but still much smaller than God's Throne).

The theory of general relativity says that time should pass slower near an object more massive than Earth (clocks run slower in stronger gravitational fields).

So according to general relativity time should pass in Paradise/Hell much slower than on Earth.

Moslems say that this is what Allah says. It is stated in the Quran that 1 day in Paradise/Hell measures a 1000 years on Earth:


[Quran 22.47]
They (disbelievers) challenge you (O'mohammed) to bring forth that torture [in Hell] !! and Allah will not break His promise; a day of your Lord [Paradise/Hell promise] is like a thousand years of what you count.

isn't it clear indication for the special relativity theory either !!!!!
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Old 02-25-2009, 01:27 PM
 
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I didn't think that heaven and hell are physical places.
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Old 02-25-2009, 11:47 PM
 
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I didn't think that heaven and hell are physical places.
you didn't have to ...... , coos , i just refer to the verse from it's scientific side
but any way , muslims believes that it will be physical , and the humans whether in hell or the paradise will be in thier flesh , it was mentioned either in another verse that God will renews the skins of those in hell so that they can taste the punishment (another miracle in this science , but it's another subject )

anyway , as long as you realy like the math science i need to extend the discussion a little with you , if you don't mind

i have to suppose that may be it was coincidence that quran difine the velocity of the angeles according to lunar orbit which will make the defination correct forever as i described before .
may be mohammed (pbuh) didn't know that his defination will be correct forever , it was coincidence !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

well , i don't think so
i think that quran knows exactly what it talking about without any coincidence , how ?
we read in another verse

[Quran 10.5]It is He (Allah) who made the sun to shine and the moon to light, and destined it in stages; that you may learn to count the years and the mathematics. Allah only created this in truth. He details His Signs for those who are knowledgeable (scientists).

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Old 03-28-2009, 12:07 AM
 
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I appreciate this thread elwill,

Verily, Glorified is Allah

13. Or they say, "He (Prophet Muhammad SAW) forged it (the Qur'an)." Say: "Bring you then ten forged Sūrah (chapters) like unto it, and call whomsoever you can, other than Allāh (to your help), if you speak the truth!"

14. If then they answer you not, know then that the Revelation (this Qur'ān) is sent down with the Knowledge of Allāh and that Lā ilāha illa Huwa: (none has the right to be worshipped but He)! Will you then be Muslims (those who submit to Islām)?

May Allah reward you a good reward for mentioning the truth for us.
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Old 03-29-2009, 10:32 AM
 
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I appreciate this thread elwill,

Verily, Glorified is Allah

13. Or they say, "He (Prophet Muhammad SAW) forged it (the Qur'an)." Say: "Bring you then ten forged Sūrah (chapters) like unto it, and call whomsoever you can, other than Allāh (to your help), if you speak the truth!"

14. If then they answer you not, know then that the Revelation (this Qur'ān) is sent down with the Knowledge of Allāh and that Lā ilāha illa Huwa: (none has the right to be worshipped but He)! Will you then be Muslims (those who submit to Islām)?

May Allah reward you a good reward for mentioning the truth for us.
God bless you too , thank you for your insert
these are wonderfull verses you added
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