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Old 03-10-2009, 09:28 AM
 
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Actually Saul did meet Jesus who was then called Paul! On the road to Damascus.

Muhammad, well, you know I want waste my time or yours debating over a false prophet. Have a nice day.
you know you'll never accept the truth because this is not what you want,whatever you say about this great prophet you yourself you don't believe on it,being here replying for such subject like that proves one thing is that you refuse this great prophet because you don't find anything bad about him,you wish we can be like you.and you have to know that we are not here to fight or to see who's gonna win this is about our destiny,after death
there is no turning back,after death the eternal life is waiting for you hell or heaven so go find truth yourself before it will be late
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:18 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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you know you'll never accept the truth because this is not what you want,whatever you say about this great prophet you yourself you don't believe on it,being here replying for such subject like that proves one thing is that you refuse this great prophet because you don't find anything bad about him,you wish we can be like you.and you have to know that we are not here to fight or to see who's gonna win this is about our destiny,after death
there is no turning back,after death the eternal life is waiting for you hell or heaven so go find truth yourself before it will be late
Actually I'm not trying to make anyone like me. I know the truth and accept the truth and that truth is Jesus. Anything else is a lie. I'm just not interested in knowing anything about false prophets.
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Old 03-10-2009, 04:21 PM
 
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Wow, these last posts are like watching the Tooth Fairy duke it out with Santa Claus.
Very enlightening though how very personal people take their god and their book and their rules. It becomes clear that to the religous there can be no middle ground and no tolerance to other views.
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Old 03-11-2009, 08:51 AM
 
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Actually I'm not trying to make anyone like me. I know the truth and accept the truth and that truth is Jesus. Anything else is a lie. I'm just not interested in knowing anything about false prophets.
why do you lie to yourself you say you're not interested in knowing anything about Muhammad ,why you felt obliged to open this topic and to answer
you wanted to convince us that our prophet is a big lie?do you think that you are better than these famous characters talked about Muhammad? from where they've got all these informations,they are not Muslims ,no body asked theme to support us,can you just stay for a minute and ask yourself why these people talked about him that good maybe we paid them!!!!
are you the type of persons when they want to look for an information for example if you want to look for Muhammad instead writing Muhammad the prophet on goggle you write "Muhammad the false prophet" so that you can find just the informations you like,and it's sure by this way you'll find only anti Islam websites like if someone is fishing in the turbid water.
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Old 03-11-2009, 11:11 AM
 
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Actually Saul did meet Jesus who was then called Paul! On the road to Damascus.
Paul is on a journey, he then sees a light and hears a voice, this voice is supposedly Jesus. This is what he claims...we dont know if its true or not

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Muhammad, well, you know I want waste my time or yours debating over a false prophet. Have a nice day.
Welllll...its your loss, not Islam's
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Old 03-11-2009, 11:13 AM
 
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Wow, these last posts are like watching the Tooth Fairy duke it out with Santa Claus.
Very enlightening though how very personal people take their god and their book and their rules. It becomes clear that to the religous there can be no middle ground and no tolerance to other views.
Yeah..well..the stakes are pretty high...you know..heaven or hell & all that jazz
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Old 03-11-2009, 11:36 AM
 
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Paul is on a journey, he then sees a light and hears a voice, this voice is supposedly Jesus. This is what he claims...we dont know if its true or not
You mean, kind of llike Muhammed saying he was in a cave and an angel came to him who is supposedly Gabriel?
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Old 03-11-2009, 09:40 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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why do you lie to yourself you say you're not interested in knowing anything about Muhammad ,why you felt obliged to open this topic and to answer
you wanted to convince us that our prophet is a big lie?do you think that you are better than these famous characters talked about Muhammad? from where they've got all these informations,they are not Muslims ,no body asked theme to support us,can you just stay for a minute and ask yourself why these people talked about him that good maybe we paid them!!!!
are you the type of persons when they want to look for an information for example if you want to look for Muhammad instead writing Muhammad the prophet on goggle you write "Muhammad the false prophet" so that you can find just the informations you like,and it's sure by this way you'll find only anti Islam websites like if someone is fishing in the turbid water.
Nope did not look it up, already new from the past. Muhammad is, I really don't really feel like it.
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Old 03-11-2009, 09:42 PM
 
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Paul is on a journey, he then sees a light and hears a voice, this voice is supposedly Jesus. This is what he claims...we dont know if its true or not



Welllll...its your loss, not Islam's
Islam, I'm not missing anything important.
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Old 03-14-2009, 05:25 PM
 
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Jesus and Moses received direct word from God, unlike Muhammad who supposdly received God's word from an angel, never directly from God.

Jesus/ Muhammad

Death
Jesus died and rose from the dead Muhammad died and stayed dead.


Fighting Jesus never fought Muhammad fought many many times

Hearing from God When Jesus heard from God he went to the desert to be tempted and began his ministry with boldness, (Mark 1:14-15). When Muhammad heard from God (supposedly through an angel) he cowered, was uncertain, and wanted to commit suicide (Quran 74:1-5)

Identity

Jesus claimed to be God (John 8:24; 8:58) as well as a man.
Jesus claimed to be the way, the truth, and the life (John 14:6).

Muhammad claimed to be a man. Instructions Received From God the Father (John 5:19) Allegedly from an angel

Killing
Jesus never killed anyone

Muhammad killed many

Life
Jesus had the power to take life, but never did. He restored it.

Muhammad had the power to take it, but he never restored it.

No one ever died in Jesus' presence Many people died in Muhammad's presence -- he killed them.

Marriage

Jesus never married Muhammad had over 20 wives and even married a nine year old girl.

Ministry
Jesus received his calling from God directly (Matt. 3:17).
Jesus received his commission in the daylight

Muhammad allegedly received it from an angel (Gabriel)
Muhammad received his words in the darkness of a cave.

Ministry Length
Jesus taught for 3 1/2 years Muhammad taught for more than 20 years. Even though Muhammad taught more than 20 years, Jesus had more of an impact than Muhammad.

Miracles
Jesus performed many miracles including healing people, calming a storm with a command, and raising people from the dead.

Muhammad's only alleged miracle was the Quran.

Prophecy
Jesus fulfilled biblical prophecy about being the Messiah

Muhammad did not fulfill any biblical prophecy except the ones about false teachers (Matt. 24:24).

Sacrifice
Jesus voluntarily laid his life down for others.

Muhammad saved his own life many times and had others killed.

Sin
Jesus never sinned (1 Pet. 2:22)

Muhammad was a sinner (Quran 40:55; 48:1-2)

Slaves
Jesus owned no slaves

Muhammad owned slaves.

Virgin
Birth Jesus was virgin born

Muhammad was not virgin born.

Voice of God Jesus received and heard the direct voice of God (Mark 1:10-11) Muhammad did not receive or hear the direct voice of God. It was an angel instead.

Women Jesus spoke well of women Muhammad said women were were 1/2 as smart as men (Hadith 3:826; 2:541), that the majority in hell will be women (Had. 1:28,301; 2:161; 7:124), and that women could be mortgaged.

There is no comparison between Jesus and Muhammad. Muhammad falls so far short, that he cannot be held on any level remotely close to Jesus. Muhammad is clearly inferior to Christ.
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