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Old 03-17-2009, 03:50 PM
 
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any objections
No, dude. Keep'em coming. It's always good to read about the other side.

But strictly out of curiosity, have you "sane" practitioners of the Islamic faith ever tried to talk to the "insane" beheading ones about why they distort this faith so bad?

If only you guys explain your theories to your own fellas in the faith, how better of a PR Islam will have today?
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Old 03-17-2009, 09:48 PM
 
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Hang on a second, where's braderjoe? I see elwill continuing the campaign. Are you guys working in shifts?
Tadaaa! Yup. We can debate till the cows come home
as the Quran says :
'To you your religion and to me mine"

so as you say lets shift the guns on the atheists..
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Old 03-17-2009, 09:50 PM
 
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Very accurate . . . after all some of them are willing to blow themselves up for this Allah of theirs because of the strength of their ridiculous beliefs just to destroy a few infidels or Jews. A forum debate is going to achieve nothing.
Boy...that broom of yours must be worn out by now...what with all that the general, blind sweeping statements of yours
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Old 03-17-2009, 09:55 PM
 
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No, dude. Keep'em coming. It's always good to read about the other side.

But strictly out of curiosity, have you "sane" practitioners of the Islamic faith ever tried to talk to the "insane" beheading ones about why they distort this faith so bad?

If only you guys explain your theories to your own fellas in the faith, how better of a PR Islam will have today?
You are right....we should..just as you guys should have a chat with those in power who use religion to justify invading other countries...
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Old 03-17-2009, 10:13 PM
 
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I do agree with you, elwill. I think religious texts can be used for many purposes (good or evil) as history has proven time and again. Sadly, it is the human race that takes advantage of such things for its own maligned purposes.

Oh, I can understand that too, elwill. Believe me, I don't think the U.S. being in Iraq was justified in any way whatsoever and I wholeheartedly disagreed with it from the very first day. I was not trying to imply that I was surprised that they shot rockets at us but that the same book my friend Muhammad clearly used to be such a generous and wonderful person was the same book the Muslims shooting at us used to ultimately justify their actions - the holy jihad handed down by a fatwah determined by a religious zealot somewhere. Believe me, I could understand them just being pissed off and shooting at us because we invaded, but I'm rather certain there was much more behind it than just that.
Wa alaikum assalam
Its nice to hear you had positive experiences with muslims my friend and that you realise a little that just like christianity, islam is interpreted widely from one end to another. Its a matter of following one's heart on which form one wants to emulate.
Its easy to get carried away by the media's potrayal of muslims until one forgets that the majority of muslims are just like your average joe with normal worries of jobs,kids etc etc.
Believe me, the violent form is not one the Prophet s.a.w would approve. Fight only in self defence. The often quoted word of 'jihad' is quite often misunderstood by both the West and some of the muslims themselves. Jihad means struggle within oneself - struggle against one's lusts, weakness etc etc - not specifially struggle as in take arms.
I believe those who blow themselves up are often mislead by certain individuals who use these people for their own purposes but 'brainwash' them in a way that the fight is for religion. The violence in Iraq right now is more to sectarian and political rather than religious despite seeming to be so. Sometimes desperation can drive people to do anything - take Palesine as an example.
What is happening is complicated not just happened all of a sudden. Colonialism played an important role is unleashing all that happened in these past decades.
As Elwill said, you are very welcome in any muslim lands be it in the Middle-east or in S.E. Asia (where i'm in). We warmly welcome guests
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Old 03-17-2009, 10:20 PM
 
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I have a question about the religion of Islam...How do Muslims feel about homosexuality?
You know all about the Prophet Lut a.s (or Lot) and what happened right?
Yes..homosexuals/lesbians folks are your average guys with good and bad among them, I agree but the act itself is unnatural. In Islam, it is a grave sin. It is the Creator's command and I submit to that. It is said that one who does anal will not smell paradise.
There is no compromise on that. No diluting of that. No closing one eye on that. No aplogies for that.
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Old 03-18-2009, 07:05 AM
 
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I have a question about the religion of Islam...How do Muslims feel about homosexuality?

the act and a male gets another male is very disgusting

if they are caught then both of them should be killed or at least this is the punishment in Islam for such act (of course if both of them did it with out any force or rape)

it is not a human nature act
and i dont know if the animals do it


Verily, by thy life (O Prophet), in their wild intoxication, they wander in distraction, to and fro.

But the (mighty) Blast overtook them before morning,

And We turned (the cities) upside down, and rained down on them brimstones hard as baked clay.

Behold! in this are Signs for those who by tokens do understand.


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"Of all the creatures in the world, will ye approach males,

"And leave those whom Allah has created for you to be your mates? Nay, ye are a people transgressing (all limits)!"


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When Our Decree issued, We turned (the cities) upside down, and rained down on them brimstones hard as baked clay, spread, layer on layer,-

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And (remember) Lut: behold, he said to his people: "Ye do commit lewdness, such as no people in Creation (ever) committed before you.

"Do ye indeed approach men, and cut off the highway?- and practise wickedness (even) in your councils?" But his people gave no answer but this: they said: "Bring us the Wrath of Allah if thou tellest the truth."

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And when Our Messengers came to Lut, he was grieved on their account, and felt himself powerless (to protect) them: but they said: "Fear thou not, nor grieve: we are (here) to save thee and thy following, except thy wife: she is of those who lag behind.

"For we are going to bring down on the people of this township a Punishment from heaven, because they have been wickedly rebellious."

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Old 03-18-2009, 07:40 AM
 
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it is not a human nature act
and i dont know if the animals do it

Does it honestly matter? Animals commit cannibalism and other horrible things...should we use that to justify such behavior?
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Old 03-18-2009, 09:13 AM
 
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You know all about the Prophet Lut a.s (or Lot) and what happened right?
Yes..homosexuals/lesbians folks are your average guys with good and bad among them, I agree but the act itself is unnatural. In Islam, it is a grave sin. It is the Creator's command and I submit to that. It is said that one who does anal will not smell paradise.
There is no compromise on that. No diluting of that. No closing one eye on that. No aplogies for that.
So all Muslims are prejudiced against gays...Thanks for answering.
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Old 03-26-2009, 09:20 PM
 
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