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Old 04-17-2009, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Whiteville Tennessee
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Elohiym. Why?


You do know, don't you, that Allah was the name of the pre-Islamic moon god - one of a plethora of gods?
You do know dont you that the "God" Christians worship is the "God" the Jews brought back with them from captivity in Babylon? It is no more of an original "God" than the Muslims "God!"
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Old 04-17-2009, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Tulsa
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Do you think the person you call Jesus was actually called Jesus when he was alive?
Do you think "altogether lovely" translates Muhammad, from a love story that is called Song of Solomon? Someone is being described as lovely, and they say it's translation is Muhammad.

Have you even read some of the words they try to say translate into Muhammad?
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Old 04-17-2009, 11:08 AM
 
Location: I think my user name clarifies that.
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You do know dont you that the "God" Christians worship is the "God" the Jews brought back with them from captivity in Babylon? It is no more of an original "God" than the Muslims "God!"
Actually, I know that you are dead wrong about that.

The Babylonian captivity took place CENTURIES after the writing of the early books of the Old Testament.

Here's a heads up: Bishop Spong is NOT a reliable source...
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Old 04-17-2009, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Whiteville Tennessee
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Actually, I know that you are dead wrong about that.

The Babylonian captivity took place CENTURIES after the writing of the early books of the Old Testament.

Here's a heads up: Bishop Spong is NOT a reliable source...
Neither is an Essene cave dweller [John the Baptist] but you believe what he taught.
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Old 04-17-2009, 12:40 PM
 
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Neither is an Essene cave dweller [John the Baptist] but you believe what he taught.
Nice try.

Did you just acknowledge the fact that what you earlier said about some god concept coming out of the Babylonian Captivity was flagrantly false?


So... what did John the Baptist "teach"?
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Old 04-17-2009, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Whiteville Tennessee
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Nice try.

Did you just acknowledge the fact that what you earlier said about some god concept coming out of the Babylonian Captivity was flagrantly false?


So... what did John the Baptist "teach"?
Get dunked in water and be saved.
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Old 04-17-2009, 01:17 PM
 
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Get dunked in water and be saved.
One problem: John the Baptist didn't teach that.
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Old 04-17-2009, 03:55 PM
 
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Apparently, since he wasn't able to prove that Muhammad's name appears in the Bible, Mecca was Plan B.
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Old 04-17-2009, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Seward, Alaska
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if his name is Elohiym. then why it is translated as God?

It's not. God is a title, not a name. It is capitalized to recognize we are speaking of, and referring to, the one and only true existant God...not one of the hundreds of imaginary gods in folklore and fairy tales...

It's like someone referring to Obama as "Mr President", which would be true and correct. But, obviously, "President" is not his name...


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Old 04-18-2009, 06:56 AM
 
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Allah is Allah in Arabic and in English and in all the langauge

ALLAH IN THE BIBLE

The suffix "IM" of the word "ELOHIM" is a plural of respect in Hebrew.
(Remember that in Arabic and Hebrew there are two types of plurals. One of numbers and the other of honour as in Royal proclamations. Since the plural of honour is uncommon in the language of the European, he has confused these plurals to connote a plurality in the "godhead," hence his justification for his Doctrine of the Holy Trinity - the Father, Son and Holy Ghost).
Hence ELOHIM = ELOH + IM. Now I want you to perform an exercise. Do you see the words: YA-HUWA ELOH-IM? Place your left hand index finger on the first two letters "YA" meaning oh! and the other index finger on the "IM" a plural of respect. What you now have remaining in Huwa Eloh or Huwa Elah. El in Hebrew means god, and Elah or Eloh also stands for the same name - god. Therefore, "Huwa el Elah" or HUWA 'L LAH, which is identical to the Quranic expression - Huwal lah hu (meaning: HE IS ALLAH) of the verse QUL HUWAL LAH HU AHUD

Ahmed Deedat
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