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Old 05-29-2009, 07:15 AM
 
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[1] In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
[2] Praise be to Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds;
[3] Most Gracious, Most Merciful;
[4] Master of the Day of Judgment.
[5] Thee do we worship, and Thine aid we seek,
[6] Show us the straight way,
[7] The way of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy Grace, those whose (portion) is not wrath, and who go not astray.
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Old 05-29-2009, 07:26 AM
 
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ummm.....ok?!
and?

here, i'll make it easy for you.....

THANK YOU for all the compliments and the kind words about me.......i will show you the straight way if you insist.......there you go.
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Old 05-30-2009, 02:55 PM
 
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http://banman.al-islam.com/a.aspx?ZoneID=1&Task=Get&Mode=HTML&PageID=98310 (broken link)









In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
[1] Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;

[2] Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
[3] He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;
[4]
And there is none like unto Him.
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Old 06-08-2009, 08:26 PM
 
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Good point. muslims vehemently deny the idea of the Trinity, so it's not like they'd believe in the 3 persons, 1 God of the Trinitarian doctrine.

Why would they? A triune god is even more absurd than Allah or Yahweh on their own..
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Old 06-08-2009, 08:28 PM
 
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Why would they? A triune god is even more absurd than Allah or Yahweh on their own..

It's what the Bible teaches.
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Old 06-08-2009, 08:33 PM
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Good point. muslims vehemently deny the idea of the Trinity, so it's not like they'd believe in the 3 persons, 1 God of the Trinitarian doctrine.
Uh KDB, this is very insensitive and very non-CHRISTIAN of you.

Just shows again and AGAIN how intolerant you are of others believes, or lack thereof.

Shame on you!!!
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Old 06-08-2009, 08:39 PM
 
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Uh KDB, this is very insensitive and very non-CHRISTIAN of you.

Just shows again and AGAIN how intolerant you are of others believes, or lack thereof.

Shame on you!!!

What's non-Christian about that?

Stating that they don't believe something? Seriously?
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Old 06-08-2009, 10:13 PM
 
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The KKKoran is supposed to be direct word of allah speaking in the first person.

Therefore the first sura gives rise to a number of questions.

(1) Who are the "we"? I thought muslims were supposed to believe in one god. Or maybe allah is just being an arrogant ass and referring to himself as the "royal we".

(2) If the "we" refers to allah, who is allah worshipping? To whom is allah praying?

(3) If the "we" refers to allah's followers who are worshipping allah, then this sura involves men talking, which means that the KKKoran is not the direct word of allah.

This allah guy is sure one crazy mixed up sonofabytch.

This is the first soora or chapter in the book of the Quran: the keysoora or keychapter.

It is read in every daily prayer, so it is an address to God Almighty with supplication and praising and glorifying.

The word "we" is related to the people who worship and pray, where they submit themselves to God alone and pray him to guide them to the way of monotheism in this World and the way of Paradise in the afterlife and on Judgment Day.

This soora teaches man how to pray and supplicate his Lord: God Almighty, and to say these words in their prayers and in many of their affairs.

The advantages of this soora:

You take this soora with you in the afterlife and in the Judgment; if you recite it, I think it may cause your prosperity, according to God's generosity.

It is recited in many situations like marriage, birth of child, death, and is read at the beginning of any proposal or project and any deal in commerce or government, and read in all the bowings of the daily prayer.

It is the summary of all the Glorious Quran, and the prayers cannot be accomplished unless by reading this soora or chapter.

It increases the provision, and leads to much blessing, and forgiveness of sins, according to God's forgiveness and mercy to the monotheists and believers.

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This is the opening soora of the Glorious Quran:

بِسْمِ اللّهِ الرَّحْمـَنِ الرَّحِيمِ .الْحَمْدُ للّهِ رَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ .الرَّحْمـنِ الرَّحِيمِ .مَـالِكِ يَوْمِ الدِّينِ .إِيَّاكَ نَعْبُدُ وإِيَّاكَ نَسْتَعِينُ .اهدِنَــــا الصِّرَاطَ المُستَقِيمَ . صِرَاطَ الَّذِينَ أَنعَمتَ عَلَيهِمْ غَيرِ المَغضُوبِ عَلَيهِمْ وَلاَالضَّالِّينَ

The explanation:

(In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
Praise be to God, the Lord of the worlds.
Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
Master of the Day of Judgment.
You [alone] we worship; and You [alone] we ask for help.
Show us the standard way [of monotheism in the life of the World, which will lead us to the way of Paradise in the afterlife.]
The way [followed] by those [monotheists: Paradise people] on whom You have been Gracious and Bounteous,
not [the way] of those [Jews] with whom You have been angry,
nor [the way] of those [Christians] who have gone astray!)
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This soora or chapter is like what man says to a mighty king or monarch, and how he submits and humbles himself before such king [: God]

At the start, he commences by celebrating and glorifying this monarch or king [: God].

Then he says to Him, that he only seeks His help and submits himself to Him alone.

Then he prays God to save and bestow on him the prosperity of Paradise together with the righteous people.

The Disagreement of the
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Old 06-09-2009, 12:23 AM
 
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Uh KDB, this is very insensitive and very non-CHRISTIAN of you.

Just shows again and AGAIN how intolerant you are of others believes, or lack thereof.

Shame on you!!!
Actually, it is the KKKoran that is intolerant:


Verse 5:60

[5.60] Say: Shall I inform you of (him who is) worse than this in retribution from Allah? (Worse is he) whom Allah has cursed and brought His wrath upon, and of whom He made apes and swine, and he who served the Shaitan; these are worse in place and more erring from the straight path.


This allah guy is being insulting to people who don't believe in him.

The KKKoran also preaches hate. As a matter of fact, the KKKoran tells muslims to hate non muslims. See verse 7:166.

Verse 7:166

[7.166] Therefore when they revoltingly persisted in what they had been forbidden, We said to them: Be (as) apes, despised and hated.

The reasons for somebody not wanting to believe in this allah guy should not matter. I don't like it when this allah guy preaches hatred to non-muslims.


The KKKoran should be classified as hate literature.
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Old 06-09-2009, 03:56 AM
 
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Actually, it is the KKKoran that is intolerant:


Verse 5:60

[5.60] Say: Shall I inform you of (him who is) worse than this in retribution from Allah? (Worse is he) whom Allah has cursed and brought His wrath upon, and of whom He made apes and swine, and he who served the Shaitan; these are worse in place and more erring from the straight path.


This allah guy is being insulting to people who don't believe in him.

The KKKoran also preaches hate. As a matter of fact, the KKKoran tells muslims to hate non muslims. See verse 7:166.

Verse 7:166

[7.166] Therefore when they revoltingly persisted in what they had been forbidden, We said to them: Be (as) apes, despised and hated.

The reasons for somebody not wanting to believe in this allah guy should not matter. I don't like it when this allah guy preaches hatred to non-muslims.


The KKKoran should be classified as hate literature.
God does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against you on account of religion nor drove you out of your homes. Verily, God loves those who deal with equity. (Quran 60:8)
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