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Old 08-24-2009, 09:41 AM
 
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yes you do worship a non-existant God. Allah doesn't exist. No proof
just like all other "Gods".

The Creator is called Allah in Arabic, Yahweh in Hebrew, God in English, Khodah in Persian and Kurdish, and other names in other languages.

These are only synonyms of One God: the Creator.

And there is no god (in the entire universe) but only God the Creator.

I don't think one that denies the Creator is any sane or has any wisdom.
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Old 08-24-2009, 09:55 AM
 
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The Creator is called Allah in Arabic, Yahweh in Hebrew, God in English, Khodah in Persian and Kurdish, and other names in other languages.

These are only synonyms of One God: the Creator.

And there is no god (in the entire universe) but only God the Creator.

I don't think one that denies the Creator is any sane or has any wisdom.
You believe in something without having any proof. I think you should question your 'own' sanity and wisdom. Become a free thinker. Forget what you've been told by the elders....start from scratch and analyze for YOURSELF why you believe in the things you do. if you find no proof, be strong enough to see through the BS.

that's what i did. I went from Islam to Atheist in 2 short months!
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Old 08-24-2009, 09:58 AM
 
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ps. Antlered Chamataka, don't try to hard....you might pop a vein in that tiny brain
It might really pop if someone called me "child", two days in a row.

Look at you, rolling in the mud in a thread that's supposed to be wishing well for a fair share of the world's population, on an important day of their year.

A sane and wise individual will wish fellow humans, or keep it shut and ignore the thread.

But like eanassir just said, Wisdom-is-key. It is not existing with evidence here. It's unfortunate, but fortunate too
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Old 08-24-2009, 10:22 AM
 
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It might really pop if someone called me "child", two days in a row.

Look at you, rolling in the mud in a thread that's supposed to be wishing well for a fair share of the world's population, on an important day of their year.

A sane and wise individual will wish fellow humans, or keep it shut and ignore the thread.

But like eanassir just said, Wisdom-is-key. It is not existing with evidence here. It's unfortunate, but fortunate too
A delusion should be pointed out....regardless of which 'thread' it's in!
Also, the reason i thought it appropriate for me to post in here is because i could relate to the OP in that i too was in his/her shoes....believing in fasting for the sake of worshipping a non-existing God. I wanted to share that because is a "child" can come to see through the BS, then an "adult" certainly should be able to! no?
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Old 08-24-2009, 04:53 PM
 
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I am already starving and the day has just got started!

Well the sun sets in about 12 hours...I can make it!

Hang in there!

Your devotion is an inspiration, and a reminder to me.

We Catholics have it easy. No meat on fridays, and nothing for a few hours before mass

I believe fasting ( and it doesn't need to just be food ) is good for my soul.
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Old 08-25-2009, 12:29 AM
 
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yes you do worship a non-existant God. Allah doesn't exist. No proof
just like all other "Gods".
all other God do not exist i agree with you 100%

but Allah is the only God that does exist

and thier are many proofs

one of the proofs is your self

how do you explain your existant?
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Old 08-25-2009, 07:12 AM
 
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all other God do not exist i agree with you 100%

but Allah is the only God that does exist

and thier are many proofs

one of the proofs is your self

how do you explain your existant?
all other Gods, including Allah do not exist. You believe in Allah most likely because you were brought up in a muslim country....if you were born in the US, you would have most likely believed in jebus.

my existance is not proof. i am the product of a long process called Evolution.
as to where the 'universe' came from...we (science) don't know yet....but working on it!
just because you don't understand something something, doesn't mean an invisible God did it!
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Old 08-25-2009, 07:33 AM
 
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all other God do not exist i agree with you 100%

but Allah is the only God that does exist

and thier are many proofs

one of the proofs is your self

how do you explain your existant?


We're both atheists. I just believe in one less god than you.


OR, if you can understand why you don't believe in Zeus or Jesus, you can understand why I don't believe in Allah.
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Old 08-25-2009, 10:30 PM
 
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all other Gods, including Allah do not exist. You believe in Allah most likely because you were brought up in a muslim country....if you were born in the US, you would have most likely believed in jebus.

my existance is not proof. i am the product of a long process called Evolution.
as to where the 'universe' came from...we (science) don't know yet....but working on it!
just because you don't understand something something, doesn't mean an invisible God did it!

yes you are right about the brought up and the born .

but then i became adult and i understand things and i have my own eyes , my own brain and my own heart and i can evaluate the clear right and the clear wrong and i do not take what others say blindly

and the human is not perfect some times you do not know if what he say is correct or wrong so you can not tke the right decision

but the things that comes from God then it is always right


read what God is telling you you will find that it is accepted by the natural and primitiveness hearts and brain


the word of God is the quran

we got the quran from the messanger of Allah Muhammed peace be upon him
and he he got from the angel Gbril and the angel got from God


now how do we know that Muhammed was really a messenger form God

even in his time and when the events are happening live to the people around him and he was supported by many miracles some people believed him and some did not believe and they fought him for 23 years

now in this current time after 1400 years

there are no more messengers and no more miracles except the quran and the prophet hadeeth

the quran bash the Evolution

if i trace my existant i will reach to Adam and Eve and they were created by God

if you trace your existant then you will reach to what?
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Old 08-25-2009, 10:36 PM
 
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We're both atheists. I just believe in one less god than you.


OR, if you can understand why you don't believe in Zeus or Jesus, you can understand why I don't believe in Allah.

i will answer you from the quran

If there were, in the heavens and the earth, other gods besides Allah, there would have been confusion in both! but glory to Allah, the Lord of the Throne: (High is He) above what they attribute to Him! 21:22
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