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Old 09-04-2009, 03:48 PM
 
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Hi
I am Muslim ...and i am always chat with christains in religion
I had asked them many questions ...but they always deny to anwser
this is my questions
1- why God did not helped Jesus when the jews and the romans tried to killed him , As He (God) helped Mose against pharaoh and helped Noah and all the other Prophets , ( and God also helped my Prophet Muhammed) ?
what is the most important for GOD his son Jesus , or his Prophets ?
2- if God present him self in Jesus ...why he used intermedaire ( Marry) to present him self ?
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Old 09-04-2009, 03:52 PM
 
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Hi
I am Muslim ...and i am always chat with christains in religion
I had asked them many questions ...but they always deny to anwser
this is my questions
1- why God did not helped Jesus when the jews and the romans tried to killed him , As He (God) helped Mose against pharaoh and helped Noah and all the other Prophets , ( and God also helped my Prophet Muhammed) ?
what is the most important for GOD his son Jesus , or his Prophets ?
2- if God present him self in Jesus ...why he used intermedaire ( Marry) to present him self ?
The obvious answer is that Christ let himself be killed, because he loved humans so much.

The answer to number two would be obvious, that only through human birth could the great sacrifice mean anything.

Not that Muhammed did anything either. You do realize that Muhammed never stood on the temple mount right? He never actually made it to the "holy land" in his life.
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Old 09-04-2009, 04:46 PM
 
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They have a weird theory that by letting Jesus die, it somehow was a sacrifice for the sins of humans. They never say why a sacrifice by jesus would atone for the sins of humans, or why a supposedly omnipotent God couldn't think of another way of dealing with the problem.

They have their catch phrases down pat, even though they don't make any sense. "Jesus HAD to die, for our sins." Why is that? Why couldn't God have done it another way? <crickets>

Basically, their stories don't make any sense. But to be fair, neither do the ones in Islam.
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Old 09-04-2009, 05:41 PM
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They have a weird theory that by letting Jesus die, it somehow was a sacrifice for the sins of humans. They never say why a sacrifice by jesus would atone for the sins of humans, or why a supposedly omnipotent God couldn't think of another way of dealing with the problem.

They have their catch phrases down pat, even though they don't make any sense. "Jesus HAD to die, for our sins." Why is that? Why couldn't God have done it another way? <crickets>

Basically, their stories don't make any sense. But to be fair, neither do the ones in Islam.
Hebrews 9:22
22In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.

The Creator makes the rules. A life for a life.
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Old 09-04-2009, 05:46 PM
 
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[quote=jimmiej;10613944]Hebrews 9:22
22In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.

The Creator makes the rules. A life for a life.[/quote]

Only the Christian God requires the shedding of blood for forgiveness, my Creator requires no such thing.
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Old 09-04-2009, 05:47 PM
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Hi
I am Muslim ...and i am always chat with christains in religion
I had asked them many questions ...but they always deny to anwser
this is my questions
1- why God did not helped Jesus when the jews and the romans tried to killed him , As He (God) helped Mose against pharaoh and helped Noah and all the other Prophets , ( and God also helped my Prophet Muhammed) ?
what is the most important for GOD his son Jesus , or his Prophets ?
2- if God present him self in Jesus ...why he used intermedaire ( Marry) to present him self ?
Jesus had God as His father & Mary as His mother. Therefore, He was fully God & fully man. That made His sacrifice valid. On one hand, He was God, holy & righteous, & on the other hand He was human, so He could give His life (blood) for us.
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Old 09-04-2009, 05:49 PM
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Only the Christian God requires the shedding of blood for forgiveness, my Creator requires no such thing.
OK... Isn't the Christian God the subject of this thread? I don't get your point.
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Old 09-04-2009, 05:55 PM
 
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Only the Christian God requires the shedding of blood for forgiveness, my Creator requires no such thing.
Your god and the Christian god are one in the same.

Sorry.
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Old 09-04-2009, 07:09 PM
 
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Your god and the Christian god are one in the same.

Sorry.
My Creator is not a vengeful, spiteful, egotistical, maniacal, god. My Creator cares about all of his creations.
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Old 09-04-2009, 07:12 PM
 
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OK... Isn't the Christian God the subject of this thread? I don't get your point.
You're right the subject is about the Christian god,no point has to be made.
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