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Old 09-12-2009, 09:25 AM
 
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Why? How do you know for sure? How do you know that you are right and everyone else is wrong? What if the Budhists are right? I can say for certain that nobody knows FOR SURE what is coming after death.

Allah sent to us many prophets and many messengers

and the last messenger is Muhammed peace be upon him

and the last book is the quran


Say (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم): "We believe in Allah and in what has been sent down to us, and what was sent down to Ibrahim (Abraham), Isma'il (Ishmael), Ishaq (Isaac), Ya'qub (Jacob) and Al-Asbat [the offspring of the twelve sons of Ya'qub (Jacob)] and what was given to Musa (Moses), 'Îsa (Jesus) and the Prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between one another among them and to Him (Allah) we have submitted (in Islam).

"And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers . 3.84:85
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Old 09-12-2009, 02:24 PM
 
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Why? How do you know for sure? How do you know that you are right and everyone else is wrong? What if the Budhists are right? I can say for certain that nobody knows FOR SURE what is coming after death.


Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers” [Aal ‘Imraan 3:85]
“Say (O Muhammad): “O mankind! Verily, I am sent to you all as the Messenger of Allaah” [al-A’raaf 7:158]

the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:

“By the One is Whose hand is the soul of Muhammad, not one of this nation, Jew or Christian, will hear of me and will die without having believed in that with which I have been sent, but he will be one of the dwellers of Hell fire.”

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Narrated Abu Dharr: I came to the Prophet while he was wearing white clothes and sleeping.
Then I went back to him again after he had got up from his sleep.
He said, "Nobody says: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah' and then later on he dies while believing in that, except that he will enter Paradise.'
I said, "Even It he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and theft."
He said. 'Even If he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and theft,"
I said. "Even if he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and theft?
He said. 'Even If he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and theft,"
I said, 'Even if he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and thefts.'
He said, "Even If he had committed Illegal sexual intercourse and theft, inspite of the Abu Dharrs dislikeness.

Abu 'Abdullah said, "This is at the time of death or before it if one repents and regrets and says "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah. He will be forgiven his sins."

***********************

Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said

If anyone testifies that
None has the right to be worshipped but Allah Alone Who has no partners,
and that Muhammad is His Slave and His Apostle,
and that Jesus is Allah's Slave and His Apostle and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit created by Him,
and that Paradise is true, and Hell is true,
Allah will admit him into Paradise with the deeds which he had done even if those deeds were few."

(Junada, the sub-narrator said, " 'Ubada added,

'Such a person can enter Paradise through any of its eight gates he likes.")

*******************************

Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said
You shall not enter Paradise so long as you do not affirm belief (in all those things which are the articles of faith)

and you will not believe as long as you do not love one another.

Should I not direct you to a thing which, if you do, will foster love amongst you: (i. e.) give currency to
(the practice of paying salutation to one another by saying)
as-salamu alaikum.


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Old 09-12-2009, 06:23 PM
 
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Okay moonsun. Allah is just words on paper in a book. So is Jesus. How do you know for sure that your Allah is the real one? I'm not interested in what your book says. But how do YOU know for sure?
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Old 09-12-2009, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers” [Aal ‘Imraan 3:85]
“Say (O Muhammad): “O mankind! Verily, I am sent to you all as the Messenger of Allaah” [al-A’raaf 7:158]

the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:

“By the One is Whose hand is the soul of Muhammad, not one of this nation, Jew or Christian, will hear of me and will die without having believed in that with which I have been sent, but he will be one of the dwellers of Hell fire.”

************************
Narrated Abu Dharr: I came to the Prophet while he was wearing white clothes and sleeping.
Then I went back to him again after he had got up from his sleep.
He said, "Nobody says: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah' and then later on he dies while believing in that, except that he will enter Paradise.'
I said, "Even It he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and theft."
He said. 'Even If he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and theft,"
I said. "Even if he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and theft?
He said. 'Even If he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and theft,"
I said, 'Even if he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and thefts.'
He said, "Even If he had committed Illegal sexual intercourse and theft, inspite of the Abu Dharrs dislikeness.

Abu 'Abdullah said, "This is at the time of death or before it if one repents and regrets and says "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah. He will be forgiven his sins."

***********************

Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said

If anyone testifies that
None has the right to be worshipped but Allah Alone Who has no partners,
and that Muhammad is His Slave and His Apostle,
and that Jesus is Allah's Slave and His Apostle and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit created by Him,
and that Paradise is true, and Hell is true,
Allah will admit him into Paradise with the deeds which he had done even if those deeds were few."

(Junada, the sub-narrator said, " 'Ubada added,

'Such a person can enter Paradise through any of its eight gates he likes.")

*******************************

Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said
You shall not enter Paradise so long as you do not affirm belief (in all those things which are the articles of faith)

and you will not believe as long as you do not love one another.

Should I not direct you to a thing which, if you do, will foster love amongst you: (i. e.) give currency to
(the practice of paying salutation to one another by saying)
as-salamu alaikum.


****************************
Yeah,

Allah and Muhammad said to kill the non-believers to.
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Old 09-12-2009, 09:27 PM
 
Location: OKC
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Islam and Christianity both have an unhealthy view of sexuality.

All this talk of "purity" is so misplaced. There is nothing pure about a virgin, or impure about a person who has had varied sexual experiences. Its not healthy to teach young women to be ashamed of their natural biological urges.
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Old 09-13-2009, 03:12 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Islam and Christianity both have an unhealthy view of sexuality.

All this talk of "purity" is so misplaced. There is nothing pure about a virgin, or impure about a person who has had varied sexual experiences. Its not healthy to teach young women to be ashamed of their natural biological urges.
I don't know about that,

The guy who was having sex with his pitbull, repeatedly, that was pretty unpure.

Did I mention, he was a Christian
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Old 09-13-2009, 03:37 AM
 
Location: South Africa
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12-Year-Old Girl Dies While Giving Birth In Yemen
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Old 09-13-2009, 09:26 AM
 
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committed illegal sexual intercourse = Adulteries
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Old 09-13-2009, 09:41 AM
 
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Disgusting. What decent person would promote a religion that does this to it's young girls?
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Old 09-13-2009, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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committed illegal sexual intercourse = Adulteries
Am I to understand that you mean the child was at fault here? I would put the blame on her father, her husband, but most of all on Yemen society, Islam and anyone else who supports child marriages. It is a sick and repugnant practice. The child is a victim. If anyone should be punished it is the father and husband.

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The issue of child brides vaulted into the headlines here two years ago when an 8-year-old Yemeni girl went by herself to a courtroom and demanded a judge dissolve her marriage to a man in his 30s. She eventually won a divorce, and legislators began looking at ways to curb the practice.

In February, parliament passed a law setting the minimum marriage age at 17. But some lawmakers are trying to kill the measure, calling it un-Islamic. Before it could be ratified by Yemen's president, they forced it to be sent back to parliament's constitutional committee for review.

Such marriages also occur in neighboring oil-rich Saudi Arabia.
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