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Old 09-13-2009, 01:58 PM
 
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Okay moonsun. Allah is just words on paper in a book. So is Jesus. How do you know for sure that your Allah is the real one? I'm not interested in what your book says. But how do YOU know for sure?


The message that was brought by the Messiah (peace be upon him) was the call to worship God,
the One, the Lord of the Messiah and the Lord of the worlds:

“Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent”
John 17:3 – NIV

“A certain ruler asked him: ‘Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?’
‘Why do you call me good?’ Jesus answered. ‘No one is good – except God alone.’”
Luke 18:18-19 – NIV

“The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world.
And he said to him, ‘I will give you all their authority and splendour, for it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to.
So if you worship me, it will all be yours.’
Jesus answered, ‘It is written: “Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.”’”
Luke 4:5-8 – NIV

Believing in and worshipping Allaah alone, besides Whom there is no other god, is the greatest teaching brought by the Messiah, and it is the greatest teaching brought by all the Prophets.

“One of the teachers of the law came and noticed them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, ‘Of all the commandments, which is the most important?’

‘The most important one,’ answered Jesus, ‘is this: “Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.

Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.”

The second is this: “Love your neighbour as yourself.” There is no commandment greater than these.’

‘Well said, teacher,’ the man replied. ‘You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him.

To love him with all your heart, with you all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbour as yourself is more important that all burnt offerings and sacrifices.’

When Jesus saw that he has answered wisely, he said to him, ‘You are not far from the kingdom of God.’ And from then on no one dared ask him any more questions.”
Mark 12:28-34 – NIV

But do not think that this advice was given to Israel or to his own people only. Rather this is the basis of the teachings of all the Prophets. The same advice appears in the Gospel of Matthew, in similar wording, after which he says:
“All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
Matthew 22:39 – NIV

This belief in the oneness of God is indeed the message of all of the Prophets. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And We did not send any Messenger before you (O Muhammad) but We revealed to him (saying): Laa ilaaha illa Ana [none has the right to be worshipped but I (Allaah)], so worship Me (Alone and none else)”

Islam Question and Answer - Discussion with a Christian: The Oneness of God is the message of Jesus and all the Prophets, peace be upon them
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Old 09-14-2009, 03:46 AM
 
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Disgusting. What decent person would promote a religion that does this to it's young girls?
Try reading the Old Testament.
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Old 09-14-2009, 05:03 AM
 
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Try reading the Old Testament.

Oh I know, it is pretty bad too. I actually was in church for a little while but never could really get into it. Especially after reading some ot the Old Testament. There is no way the same guy (god) authored the Old and the New Testament. If so he had a big change of heart.
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Old 09-14-2009, 10:51 AM
 
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Islam never treat women like Dogs as someone said above ,
Islam respect women and gave her rights when the peoples before Islam treat her like a toys ....
Any way Islam alaways to give women a spicial position in society ....
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Old 09-14-2009, 10:58 AM
 
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Islam never treat women like Dogs as someone said above ,
Islam respect women and gave her rights when the peoples before Islam treat her like a toys ....
Any way Islam alaways to give women a spicial position in society ....
Yeah, right. If that were so, then why then does Islam condone pedophiles in Yemen and Saudi Arabia? That is exactly what sanctioning marriage to 8 year old girls is. It seems obvious to me that the special position that Islam gives females is underneath men.
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Old 09-14-2009, 12:58 PM
 
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Islam never treat women like Dogs as someone said above ,
Islam respect women and gave her rights when the peoples before Islam treat her like a toys ....
Any way Islam alaways to give women a spicial position in society ....
Yet Indonesia today passed laws saying that if a woman cheats on her husband, she'll be stoned to death.

And if someone engages in homosexual acts, they will be arrested and jailed.

Islam, what a joke.
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Old 09-14-2009, 04:05 PM
 
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committed illegal sexual intercourse = Adulteries
Seriously, moonsun - the poor little girl was married off by her family to a adult muslim man. How can that be considered adultery?

Oh well who cares right? After all, I'm sure she was covered when she was out in public and a woman (or in this case a girl) is only worth half that of a muslim man. No doubt her grieving widower will find another child bride.
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Old 09-14-2009, 04:08 PM
 
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Islam never treat women like Dogs as someone said above ,
Islam respect women and gave her rights when the peoples before Islam treat her like a toys ....
Any way Islam alaways to give women a spicial position in society ....
You are right - and how utterly ironic that a religion that did treat women with unprecedented equality has now regressed into treating women/girls like so much property. They can be married off, beaten and killed on the whim of her male relatives. There is no freedom in that, no equality. Whatever vision Mohammad had regarding women has been destroyed by modern muslims.
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Old 09-14-2009, 04:18 PM
 
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Islam never treat women like Dogs as someone said above ,
Islam respect women and gave her rights when the peoples before Islam treat her like a toys ....
Any way Islam alaways to give women a spicial position in society ....


Then why make them cover up from head to toe? If they don't? Is their decision to NOT cover up respected by men? Gee I think not.
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Old 09-14-2009, 07:43 PM
 
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Then why make them cover up from head to toe? If they don't? Is their decision to NOT cover up respected by men? Gee I think not.
it is the order of the creator and some muslims believe that the face does not have to be covered and they do not cover the face.

do you blame us for obeying the owner?
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