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Old 10-02-2009, 04:49 AM
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Why God revealed some of the Quran ambiguous

{The interpretation is according to the late inspired interpreter of the Quran and the Bible: Mohammed-Ali Hassan al-Hilly}

When God revealed the Quran to Mohammed by the angel Gabriel, his people denied him at the start, and they said to him: it is you assisted by some other people that invent the Quran, and it is not from God the Creator.

Therefore, God challenged the Arab and said to them that: Mohammed is one of you; so if you claim Mohammed invented the Quran from his own, then do like it if you can, the thing you will never be able to do.

This is in the Quran 17: 88
قُل لَّئِنِ اجْتَمَعَتِ الإِنسُ وَالْجِنُّ عَلَى أَن يَأْتُواْ بِمِثْلِ هَذَا الْقُرْآنِ لاَ يَأْتُونَ بِمِثْلِهِ وَلَوْ كَانَ بَعْضُهُمْ لِبَعْضٍ ظَهِيرًا

The explanation:
(Say [O Mohammed, to these associaters]:

"Even though the whole man-kind and genie-kind [: demon-kind] were to gather together in accordance to produce the like of this Quran, they could not produce its like, even if they aided each other with support.")

And God said to them that: I have made the Quran two kinds of revelations: plain and ambiguous.

So in case you claim that Mohammed invented it, then bring about some ayat similar to the plain revelations in style and eloquence; because you are eloquent in your Arabic language and Mohammed is one of you, then do like him in making some eloquent ayat like the plain ayat --- but they could not do that.

Or solve the puzzles included in the ambiguous ayat; because you are clever at solving puzzles, and it is among your customs to speak in puzzle and symbols, and I shall give you a respite: a long period of time more than one thousand and three hundred years to reach to the explanation of these puzzles and ambiguous ayat, and then when you will be completely unable to do that, I shall inspire one of my servants to explain all that to you ---

the Mahdi: the Paraclite to whom I shall send Jesus Christ in his spirit to inspire the Mahdi: the Paraclite all the interpretation of such ambiguous ayat of the Quran ---

so that you will be certain about the Quran is revealed from God Almighty, and you should worship God alone without associate, son or patron.

This is in the Quran 38: 88
إِنْ هُوَ إِلَّا ذِكْرٌ لِّلْعَالَمِينَ . وَلَتَعْلَمُنَّ نَبَأَهُ بَعْدَ حِينٍ

The explanation:
([This Quran] is only an admonition for [all] the worlds.

And you [people] shall surely come to know, after a [long] time, the truth thereof.)

Another point: such ambiguous ayat will speak about many situations that will happen in the future which you do not know now, and your minds cannot grasp their implication now like the earth is spherical and the portents of Doomsday.

Refer to the words of Jesus in the Gospel: "If now I tell you many things, you will not understand, but when that one (the Mahdi: the Paraclite): the spirit of truth comes, he will teach you all that; and what he hears he will speak, and will not speak from himself."

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Old 10-02-2009, 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by lanuagemaniac View Post
yeah ı quite agree with you mysticphd. why is allah so ambigious, vague why why? on the one hand god says this is a clear book,easy to understand and on the other hand you can find so so many ambiguity in the quran itself...

this book is no other than a word of mohammad and his fellows and nobody can defend quran authenticity.it s just a matter of belief.

belief is either intuitional or blind, it is not depond upon reason...I want to finish my writing with this verse telling of directly pre-destiny belief:

13. If We had so willed, We could certainly have brought every soul its true guidance: but the Word from Me came out, "I will fill Hell with Jinns and men all together."

Praise be to Allaah.
Allaah has created man and given him reason, and He has sent down to him Revelation and sent to him Messengers to call him to the truth and warn him against falsehood. Then He has left him to make his own choice.
“And say: ‘The truth is from your Lord.’ Then whosoever wills, let him believe; and whosoever wills, let him disbelieve
[al-Kahf 18:29 – interpretation of the meaning]

Allaah commanded His Messenger Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to convey the truth to all of mankind. Then they have the choice to do as they wish. If a person obeys, he benefits himself, and if he disobeys, he harms himself, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Say: ‘O you mankind! Now truth (i.e. the Qur’aan and Prophet Muhammad), has come to you from your Lord. So whosoever receives guidance, he does so for the good of his own self; and whosoever goes astray, he does so to his own loss; and I am not (set) over you as a Wakeel (disposer of affairs to oblige you for guidance)’”[Yoonus 10:108]

Islam is the religion of the natural state of man (fitrah), the religion of reason and thought. Allaah has distinguished the truth from falsehood. He has enjoined all that is good and forbidden all that is evil. He has permitted good things and forbidden evil things. There is no compulsion in religion because the benefits or harms come back upon the created being, not upon the Creator. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the Right Path has become distinct from the wrong path. Whoever disbelieves in Taaghoot (false gods) and believes in Allaah, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break”
[al-Baqarah 2:256]

And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Whosoever does righteous good deed, it is for (the benefit of) his ownself; and whosoever does evil, it is against his ownself. And your Lord is not at all unjust to (His) slaves”[Fussilat 41:46]

Guidance is in the hand of Allaah. If Allaah willed, He could guide all of mankind, for there is nothing that He cannot do on this earth or in the heavens. Nothing happens in His Dominion except that which He wills.
“Say: ‘With Allaah is the perfect proof and argument, (i.e. the Oneness of Allaah, the sending of His Messengers and His Holy Books, to mankind); had He so willed, He would indeed have guided you all’”[al-An’aam 6:149 – interpretation of the meaning]

But in His Wisdom, Allaah has created us with the ability to choose, and He has sent down to us guidance and the Criterion. So whoever obeys Allaah and His Messenger will enter Paradise and whoever disobeys Allaah and His Messenger will enter Hell, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Verily, proofs have come to you from your Lord, so whosoever sees, will do so for (the good of) his ownself, and whosoever blinds himself, will do so to his own harm, and I (Muhammad) am not a watcher over you”[al-An’aam 6:104]

The Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) has no part in guidance; all that he and the Muslims have to do is to explain and convey the message, and show them guidance but they cannot force people to follow it, as Allaah said to His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) (interpretation of the meaning):
“And had your Lord willed, those on earth would have believed, all of them together. So, will you (O Muhammad) then compel mankind, until they become believers”[Yoonus 10:99]

And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And the duty of the Messenger is only to convey (the Message) plainly”[al-‘Ankaboot 29:18]

Guidance to the truth is in the hand of Allaah alone and no human being has any share in that, as Allaah said to His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) (interpretation of the meaning):
“Verily, you (O Muhammad) guide not whom you like, but Allaah guides whom He wills. And He knows best those who are the guided[al-Qasas 28:56]

Allaah guides whomsoever He wills and sends astray whomsoever He wills. He has told us that He guides those who obey Him and turn to Him, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):
“While as for those who accept guidance, He increases their guidance and bestows on them their piety”[Muhammad 47:17]

But whoever disobeys Allaah and turns away from Him, Allaah will not guide him, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Truly, Allaah guides not him who is a liar, and a disbeliever”
[al-Zumar 39:3]

Allaah is Omniscient and knows what has happened and is happening and what is yet to come. Allaah knows the believers and the disbelievers, and what they will do, and He knows what their fate will be in the Hereafter. He has written all that in al-Lawh al-Mahfooz (the Preserved Tablet), as He says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And all things We have recorded in a Book”[al-Naba’ 78:29]
Allaah has created man with the ability to choose, and He has created him able to do both, either believer or disbelieve, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Verily, We showed him the way, whether he be grateful or ungrateful”[al-Insaan 76:3]

Man has the choice in terms of his reason only; if he loses his reason by which he is able to distinguish between the alternatives of good and evil, truth and falsehood, then he is not accountable. Hence according to Islamic sharee’ah, the pen is lifted from the insane person (i.e., he is not accountable) until he recovers his senses, and from the child until he reaches the age of understanding, and from the sleeper until he wakes up. None of these people are accountable until they gain or recover the reason by which they may distinguish between the alternatives of faith and disbelief, truth and falsehood, and so on.
Whatever direction a person takes, there will be reward and punishment, If he obeys, there will be Paradise:
“Indeed he succeeds who purifies his ownself (i.e. obeys and performs all that Allaah ordered, by following the true Faith of Islamic Monotheism and by doing righteous good deeds”
[al-Shams 91:9 – interpretation of the meaning]

and if he disobeys, there will be Hell:
“And indeed he fails who corrupts his ownself (i.e. disobeys what Allaah has ordered by rejecting the true Faith of Islamic Monotheism or by following polytheism, or by doing every kind of evil wicked deeds” [al-Shams 91:10 – interpretation of the meaning]

The choice of one of these two ways is something about which a person will be questioned by the Lord of the Worlds. Hence it is clear that faith or disbelief, obedience or disobedience, is the matter of personal choice. Allaah has made reward and punishment dependent upon this choice:
“Whosoever does righteous good deed, it is for (the benefit of) his ownself; and whosoever does evil, it is against his ownself. And your Lord is not at all unjust to (His) slaves”[Fussilat 41:46]

Whoever loves Allaah and His Messenger and desires good in this world and in the Hereafter, let him enter Islam, and whoever turns away from that and is content with this world and has no interest in the Hereafter and does not submit, then his abode will be Hell. The individual is the one who will benefit or harm himself. There is no compulsion to choose either. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Verily, this (Verses of the Qur’aan) is an admonition, so whosoever wills, let him take a Path to his Lord (Allaah)”
[al-Insaan 76:29]

Islam Question and Answer - Guidance is in the hand of Allaah
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Old 10-20-2009, 08:26 AM
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Folks who post ayats and verses are really not going to make any points because once again you take them out of context and you also really need to know for who they were written for, the audience and what the historical context is.

There are way to many folks who just post a quick verse and ayat and it seems most of them are just filled with fear.

People should never find a religion through fear. Find a religion through true knowledge and understanding of a religion.

We are all the children of God, not just Christians, Muslims or Jews and he will not forsake the righteous person no matter your faith. We are here to do good, help repair the world. What is important is the here and now. If more people understood that the world would be a better place for everyone.

Originally Posted by Gplex View Post
4:110 - Yet whoso doeth evil or wrongeth his own soul, then seeketh pardon of Allah, will find Allah Forgiving, Merciful.

4:137 - Those who believe, then disbelieve and then (again) believe, then disbelieve, and then increase in disbelief, Allah will never pardon them.

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Old 07-02-2011, 11:14 AM
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Quran is the eternal miracle of Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him, that every prophet passed his miracle of his death until our Prophet peace be upon him is still his miracle remain reserved, represented in the book of God Almighty, the Word of God the house {not done wrong in the hands behind him} (separated verse 42), may Allaah mention this fact is that the Qur'an is the Word of God in the verse {If one of the idolaters Astjark his reward until you hear the word of God} (repentance: from verse 6) The phrase {say Almakhlvon if Antalegtm to spoils to take them Dhirohna Ntbekm want to changed the word of God} (conquest: from verse 15), Return trusts verses that the Quran is the word of God, who revealed to Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him, and confirmed the year this fact also: narrated by Ahmad and Tirmidhi, Abd- -Allaah said: The Messenger of Allah peace be upon him expose himself in the season for people in the situation says: (Is it a man taking me to his people, the Quraysh would not let me talk to inform me), The Muslims are agreed on that.
The combined mental and physical signs to confirm this fact and support:
It is the evidence proved the inability of the polytheists that they come to a verse as well as Al, as well as to produce the like thereof, and that with the availability of Hmmanm to oppose the Prophet peace be upon him in his call, and enables them to the Arab tongue, which the Quran was revealed by the rude and systems, all of that indicates the that this is not the words of human beings, but is the word of the Lord of the Worlds.
It is evidence that the Koran the word of God is encompassed in the news for the unseen, what is telling us is only signed Kvlq waxing, and for this the defeated Persians, Romans, in some battles record Koran this defeat, and was told that the Roman Saglpon the Persians in a few years, and he signed it as Tell, the Almighty said: {Romans have been defeated () in the lowest land, and they, after their defeat Saglpon} (Roman: 2-3).
It is therefore encompassed in the Holy Quran from the scientific miracles by telling him about scientific facts, not discovered until after four ten centuries, and those facts are proven by the Quran and a barrier of water separates the salt water and fresh water so as not to mingle, he says: Marj Bahrain meet isthmus between them does not want to} (Rahman :19-20). Came modern science, he stressed this fact and decided upon.
Further evidence is that the Koran the word of God, what it finds rights in the same comfort and peace of mind when reading the book of God, the comfort and peace of mind does not find it when you read other words of human beings, and so true to tell the truth the Almighty: {Those who believe and whose hearts the remembrance of Allah not to mention Allah do hearts find rest} (Thunder: 28).
It is also evidence of what happens when healing the Koran and the expulsion of the devil when you read, he says: {And We send down from the Quran which is a healing and a mercy to the believers (Isra: from verse 82).
In the sentence The evidence that the Quran the word of God more than to Nhsaha in this article, and end by saying Alwaleed bin invasive and was pillows polytheists asked him to say in the Qur'an word: He said: "What I say?! Fu God, what a man I know notice of me, I do not know Berger or poem from me, do not notify the jinn, and what God is like, which says nothing of the By God that for saying that says the sweetness, although it of charm, and that fruitful above, Mgdq below, and it rises, and second to none and that to destroy what is underneath it, "narrated by the ruling al-Bayhaqi.
This is the Holy Word of God that has persistently eluded humanity organized in eloquence, and his justice, and health experience, and continues to challenge it exists, is still unable to human face of this challenge remains, too, to keep the Koran in front of the argument is the amount of his rivals and opponents.
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