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Old 11-03-2009, 04:03 PM
 
Location: B'ham
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Religon and culture are very intertwined in most middle eastern countries. I tend to blame - if not the religon - at least its teachers/mullahs who have a huge influence there and continue to let all this to happen.
I think we're agreeing on the same point, but we each have a different way of saying it.
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Old 11-03-2009, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Pawnee Nation
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Do you want really know more about Islam‏
No
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:03 PM
 
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No. I know far more than I need to know. It is a barbarous religion in a barbarous culture that needs to abandon its corruption of the beautiful principles it contains (that apply only to Muslims and those under Allah via jizzah) . . . and stop its unrealistic and unacceptable goal of world dominance under Allah. As a short term fix . . . it needs to abandon its unrealistic expectation that Israel will EVER be eliminated from the lands it occupies. Islam must abandon the jihad of conquest (under pretext of war and defense). Islam didn't even exist when the Jews first occupied the land they returned to in 1948 and are on today . . . so to claim they are occupying your land is absurd. Return to the more peaceful jihad of personal control and conquest of self. Terrorism is pure evil and deceit of the infidels (which is every non-Muslim) is NOT a God-approved behavior.
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Oh where, oh where, has the OP gone?
Oh where, oh where, can he be?
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Old 11-03-2009, 10:08 PM
 
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I don't want to hear anything about Islam.

What will it be? Terrorists? Suicide bombers? Anti Americanism? Anti Woman? Sharia law? What else?
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Old 11-04-2009, 12:38 PM
 
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I think we're agreeing on the same point, but we each have a different way of saying it.
Probably. But just to clarify, I do allocate the blame among religion, culture and the people involved.

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Old 11-05-2009, 07:16 AM
 
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Word of your answer (no) indicate a lack of love of knowledge, if you search for this religion and its depth will know something different you just talk about Islam, words may have heard of people who have little knowledge .. Research sources and not the correct .. So you ignorant .. sorry for this meaning because your words point to this meaning.
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:54 AM
 
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Word of your answer (no) indicate a lack of love of knowledge, if you search for this religion and its depth will know something different you just talk about Islam, words may have heard of people who have little knowledge .. Research sources and not the correct .. So you ignorant .. sorry for this meaning because your words point to this meaning.
Why choose to respond to ignorance instead of knowledge. I know Islam . . . and I see no need to know any more. Knowledge doesn't alter its barbarity or deceitfulness toward non-Muslims or those NOT under jizzah . . . nor its goal of universal domination for Allah by force . . . nor its uncompromising goal of the elimination of the state of Israel.
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Old 11-05-2009, 01:23 PM
 
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Why choose to respond to ignorance instead of knowledge. I know Islam . . . and I see no need to know any more. Knowledge doesn't alter its barbarity or deceitfulness toward non-Muslims or those NOT under jizzah . . . nor its goal of universal domination for Allah by force . . . nor its uncompromising goal of the elimination of the state of Israel.
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You do not learn about Islam. Because you accuse the religion of Islam and Muslims and brutal! Does not mean that atrocities! Brutal behavior child abduction and killing and murder of women and the Mafia that occur in some countries <<These things are not there by a large margin in Islam has been lacking, but there is a high proportion in other countries of non-Muslims .. This is the life and brutal person really expensive .. Either by Israel, because Israel's history is well known and do not have any knowledge of this side! Do you have information on this or not, and who does not know these things should not speak on the do not know .. And you know the correct information and then come and discuss these issues.

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Old 11-22-2009, 10:10 AM
 
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You do not learn about Islam. Because you accuse the religion of Islam and Muslims and brutal! Does not mean that atrocities! Brutal behavior child abduction and killing and murder of women and the Mafia that occur in some countries <<These things are not there by a large margin in Islam has been lacking, but there is a high proportion in other countries of non-Muslims .. This is the life and brutal person really expensive .. Either by Israel, because Israel's history is well known and do not have any knowledge of this side! Do you have information on this or not, and who does not know these things should not speak on the do not know .. And you know the correct information and then come and discuss these issues.

Yes there are bad violent things that happen in other places and by other people. The issue is that when violent stuff happens within Islam its because the extremists believe that it is willed by God and they are carrying out God's plan. When you use a holy book you see as literal that leaves very little space to think about what you are doing. And as for Israel there are wrongs on both the Israeli and Palestinian side. Its not one sided.

The wrongs of the world do not justify the violence coming from Islam. The fanatics are not the victims they are the victimizers. The Muslims who carry out the terror are the ones who are brutal. Why is it that many Muslims justify the killing done in the name of Islam because of bad stuff others do? What is stopping Islam from getting their own house in order?

The world is not wrong to question the religion of Islam.
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