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Old 11-13-2009, 05:45 PM
 
Location: MSP
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Isaysos ...


all right

that Negative perception about Islam by non-Muslims ..it because they do not know anything about Islam ....

they did not take it from the right sources

What are the things that you want to know about Islam

they Do not know why Islam ....what islam ....

The ethics of Islam....


you Can tell me ...as you wish

What are the negative things about Islam even we talk about it

(Quran )told us the truth of Christ .......

True religion ......

God's way .....




Q- what is you religion ....? what is your concept about islam ...?


jmoool


thanks
There are many negative things that we (Non Middle Eastern Countries) hear about Islam everyday. Things that we experience personally (9-11/the recent shooting in Texas, reports on how people in Iraq act by soldiers that have been there) and those we hear in the news (suicide bombers, disrespect of woman etc.) I know that a majority of Muslims do not support such violent acts (at least I hope not) but it seems like anything that happens in the name of Islam is somehow harming people of other creeds.

I have friends that are Muslim here in the United States so I know that many are not what we hear about in the news every day. They stick to their religion and I stick to mine (I am a Catholic Christian by the way).

But, however, when someone such as in your original post comes along and starts posting quotes from the Koran in where the audience is 99% non-muslim and seems to think that their religion is right and others are wrong, I have issue with that. I am not anti-Muslim or anything, in fact it annoys me when Christians or any other religion does the same thing.

Would you like it if I went over to Saudi Arabia and began telling people to read the Bible and that Jesus was the true profit! I don't think I would be greeted warmly by to many people. In fact I would probably get physically beaten or killed for blasphemy. (This does not happen in many democratic countries as we have freedom of speech.) Believe me, we have many Christian here that say you have to live a certain way or be a certain religion or face eternal damnation. Many people are becoming tired of both religions because of this and that is why atheism is growing so fast (IMO).

Anyway, I am always interested in learning more about all religions, I am not close minded, but I will always practice the Catholic faith based on my family traditions and how it fits my views. Would you be interested in learning more about Christianity and the blessed Virgin Mary?
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Old 11-13-2009, 06:22 PM
 
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Question I'm Catholic too, but Islam comments for the moment in reduction.

I received the Koran for apparently hopeful understanding from a fundamentalist type barber (on the east side of town) a few years back. He was trying to distribute about the seven ranges of Heaven and how to him the Koran predicted many discoveries of modern science. I guess the fundamentalists want to present a personal feeling for their Creator in, yes, the health thing along with sincerities about the home-life they seem to hope in a meditative manner.

So there are, peppered throughout the Koran, a number of meditations over the individual alongside of others trying to comprehend the justice and means for achieving it it in perception as well as loving practice here on earth in the, outside of IT, Act in Heaven by that creator, Allah. apparently they are most of them real events of people being led out of intolerant situations, particular individuals rising above their situations with miracles to continue on OR end their lives. It is not a universal human or act for contacting the breeder of your intelligent manner of existence. That sort of thing is fulfilled by the Messenger of calling to the man and woman.


The Mi' raj I suppose is under the Muhammad in a section strangely entitled "Women" of the Koran. This is the final stage of Muhammad's life where He ascend into Heaven in the miraculously, but totally justified in Reason entrance into heaven by Muhammad the prophet. He would seem to be fooled by perception of obstacles for understanding future projects of surviving on earth. But the reason is fulfilled by in the end elimination of all distance from the unreasonable motion of proportionate being to existence for Judgmental meaning of 'I am here in the needs of my own Love'.

Motion of the body is like the very ratio in reasoning proportion in the spatial awareness needed to comprehend Time.
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Old 11-13-2009, 06:58 PM
 
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The Mi' raj I suppose is under the Muhammad in a section strangely entitled "Women" of the Koran. This is the final stage of Muhammad's life where He ascend into Heaven in the miraculously, but totally justified in Reason entrance into heaven by Muhammad the prophet. He would seem to be fooled by perception of obstacles for understanding future projects of surviving on earth. But the reason is fulfilled by in the end elimination of all distance from the unreasonable motion of proportionate being to existence for Judgmental meaning of 'I am here in the needs of my own Love'.

Motion of the body is like the very ratio in reasoning proportion in the spatial awareness needed to comprehend Time.
Wow! So yeah. What?
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Old 11-13-2009, 07:04 PM
 
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Peaceful preaching inside, violent message outside a New York mosque - CNN.com

Its things that people here see in the streets that rub people the wrong way and give a bad image of Islam as well. Many Christians don't go to this extent, well maybe Westboro Baptist if you can count those basket cases as Christian.
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Old 11-14-2009, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Toronto, ON
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Default I had good grace from ISasyus yesterday, and then the technical machine, EH?

I don't know why treat me like a non-entity for sensitive behaviour. But thank you, Isasyus much, anyway.
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Old 11-14-2009, 03:03 PM
 
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I received the Koran for apparently hopeful understanding from a fundamentalist type barber (on the east side of town) a few years back. He was trying to distribute about the seven ranges of Heaven and how to him the Koran predicted many discoveries of modern science. I guess the fundamentalists want to present a personal feeling for their Creator in, yes, the health thing along with sincerities about the home-life they seem to hope in a meditative manner.

So there are, peppered throughout the Koran, a number of meditations over the individual alongside of others trying to comprehend the justice and means for achieving it it in perception as well as loving practice here on earth in the, outside of IT, Act in Heaven by that creator, Allah. apparently they are most of them real events of people being led out of intolerant situations, particular individuals rising above their situations with miracles to continue on OR end their lives. It is not a universal human or act for contacting the breeder of your intelligent manner of existence. That sort of thing is fulfilled by the Messenger of calling to the man and woman.


The Mi' raj I suppose is under the Muhammad in a section strangely entitled "Women" of the Koran. This is the final stage of Muhammad's life where He ascend into Heaven in the miraculously, but totally justified in Reason entrance into heaven by Muhammad the prophet. He would seem to be fooled by perception of obstacles for understanding future projects of surviving on earth. But the reason is fulfilled by in the end elimination of all distance from the unreasonable motion of proportionate being to existence for Judgmental meaning of 'I am here in the needs of my own Love'.

Motion of the body is like the very ratio in reasoning proportion in the spatial awareness needed to comprehend Time.

tgnostic ...

(Isra) and( Mi'raj )

It was a miracle the Prophet peace be upon him


Do you feel satisfied with the Catholic ?
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Old 11-14-2009, 04:18 PM
 
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tgnostic ...

(Isra) and( Mi'raj )

It was a miracle the Prophet peace be upon him


Do you feel satisfied with the Catholic ?
You haven't answered my questions yet Jmoool. Why is that? Would you be interested in learning more about Catholicism and the Blessed Virgin Mary? Do you think you would ever become a Christian?

More Specifically:
Would you like it if I went over to Saudi Arabia and began telling people to read the Bible and that Jesus was the true profit! I don't think I would be greeted warmly by to many people. In fact I would probably get physically beaten or killed for blasphemy. (This does not happen in many democratic countries as we have freedom of speech.) Believe me, we have many Christian here that say you have to live a certain way or be a certain religion or face eternal damnation. Many people are becoming tired of both religions because of this and that is why atheism is growing so fast (IMO).

Anyway, I am always interested in learning more about all religions, I am not close minded, but I will always practice the Catholic faith based on my family traditions and how it fits my views. Would you be interested in learning more about Christianity and the blessed Virgin Mary?
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Old 11-18-2009, 11:47 AM
 
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You haven't answered my questions yet Jmoool. Why is that? Would you be interested in learning more about Catholicism and the Blessed Virgin Mary? Do you think you would ever become a Christian?

More Specifically:
Would you like it if I went over to Saudi Arabia and began telling people to read the Bible and that Jesus was the true profit! I don't think I would be greeted warmly by to many people. In fact I would probably get physically beaten or killed for blasphemy. (This does not happen in many democratic countries as we have freedom of speech.) Believe me, we have many Christian here that say you have to live a certain way or be a certain religion or face eternal damnation. Many people are becoming tired of both religions because of this and that is why atheism is growing so fast (IMO).

Anyway, I am always interested in learning more about all religions, I am not close minded, but I will always practice the Catholic faith based on my family traditions and how it fits my views. Would you be interested in learning more about Christianity and the blessed Virgin Mary?


NO .....Islam enough me

Islam is a religion of the prophets jesus ... muhammed .... musa ... abrahem

islam is god's way

islam paradise's way

I breathe Islam .....

it is THE TRUTH ...

When God sent the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him has had ended Christianity and Judaism


allah said.... " 83 - Do they seek for other than the religion of God? while all creatures in the heavens and on earth have, willing or unwilling, bowed to his will (accepted Islam), and to him shall they all be brought back.""QURAN


allah said ...."85 - If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to God), never will it be accepted of him; and in the hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost (all spiritual good)." QURAN


it saudia had enough it ( QURAN )


jmoool
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Old 11-18-2009, 05:05 PM
 
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NO .....Islam enough me

Islam is a religion of the prophets jesus ... muhammed .... musa ... abrahem

islam is god's way

islam paradise's way

I breathe Islam .....

it is THE TRUTH ...

When God sent the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him has had ended Christianity and Judaism


allah said.... " 83 - Do they seek for other than the religion of God? while all creatures in the heavens and on earth have, willing or unwilling, bowed to his will (accepted Islam), and to him shall they all be brought back.""QURAN


allah said ...."85 - If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to God), never will it be accepted of him; and in the hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost (all spiritual good)." QURAN


it saudia had enough it ( QURAN )


jmoool
This logic folks is why we have so much unnecessarily violence, bloodshed and hatred in the name of religion. If you really think about it. This is the underlying cause.
This logic makes God weep. To bad we will never be able to get over ourselves and our petty differences enough to fully understand how great and complex he/she really is. You can't claim to know God/Allah any more than I do.
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Old 11-18-2009, 06:47 PM
 
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Muhammed was taken to heaven but his body is buried in Medina? How does that work?
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