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Old 11-27-2009, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Saudi Arabia
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gosh i'll get back to you latter , people do not understand what is Islam , whenever the world Islam show Up , plaistain and isreal must show up ,

Islam is a way biger then plaistain and isreal , Islam is a way of life , Islam is the whol world , not only plaistan and isreal ,

this topic main point is not plaistan and isreal , because when talking about this topic many other point must be taking in point " goverments , politics , .nations , .. etc .

Talking about this case will lead to a whol new topic , here i'm talking about islam Not plastain and isreal


islam in all over the world not only that part of the world

i don't know why there always have to be people trying to make thing down ,



 
Old 11-27-2009, 11:14 AM
 
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[quote=peaceful man;11795335][b][color=DarkRed]gosh i'll get back to you latter , people do not understand what is Islam , whenever the world Islam show Up , plaistain and isreal must show up ,

this topic main point is not plaistan and isreal , because when talking about this topic many other point must be taking in point " goverments , politics , .nations , .. etc .

Talking about this case will lead to a whol new topic , here i'm talking about islam Not plastain and isreal

>>how can you Not hate those who make such as pain to your family
Islam call and order for peace , and also order to get mad for our family and brother and sister who get killed and treated worse then animal bye those who know nothing about humanity ,
answring your question will change what the point of this topic , so i'll just speak shortly about it.<<<


You brought up the palestinian/israeli conflict when and you posted a lot of pictures of folks who were killed in the conflict between Israel and Palestinians. I pointed out that there are lots of picts of dead Israeli children too. That there has been violence against innocent Israeli civilians by Palestinian terrorists. I also pointed out that a society has a right to protect iself from terrorism. That there are wrongs on both sides. If you blame only one side without looking at the other side that is where the problem lies.

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Old 11-27-2009, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Toronto, ON
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Islam I think was a religion of the nature frustrated World, I t could not apply in the Congo, for instance, or in the Brazilian jungle. The world, as is referred to is the peopled world, but not the world of the natural concern for Progress in distrusting, let us say ... scientists?
 
Old 11-27-2009, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Saudi Arabia
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Why did I Embrace Islam?
This is an extract from Dr. Gronier, a French MP, who embraced Islam. Revealing the reason of embracing Islam he said, I read all of the Ayat (Quranic verses), which have a relation to medical, health, and natural sciences that I studied before and have a wide knowledge of. I found that these verses are totally compatible with and give a picture of our modern sciences. Thus, I embraced Islam as it was obvious that Muhammad revealed the Absolute Truth more than a thousand years ago. Had every specialist, artist or scientist compared those Quranic verses to his own specialization, beyond the shadow of doubt he would embrace Islam, especially if he has a sound mentality and goodwill to search for the truth and not a mentally defective person with the intentions of malevolent aims.
Reference(s):
Denier, Ateen and Sulaiman Bin Ibrahim,
Muhammad Allah's Messenger.
Mahmoud, Abdul-Haleem, (Dr.),
Europe and Islam.


chose any topic to read about from the list
























 
Old 11-27-2009, 12:05 PM
 
Location: US Empire, Pac NW
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peaceful man, please do not show horrible images of people being blown up or images of people being shot, etc. because it does nothing to further your argument and this is a family site. Please keep it PG or nicer.

So, from my own research into Islam, there actually is debate about what scripture in the Koran really means - just like in Christianity there being debate about what passages in the New and Old Testaments mean. That is a good thing, and in my opinion, in the cities of Turkey we have a civilized version of Islam coexisting with a secular government.

I think one of the reasons why many of today's Muslims feel like they are pushed to extremism is because a few powerful and rich people, supported by nations, who are also charismatic, talk to the poor and disenfranchised Muslims to feel like they are victims. Then begins the brainwashing and training, etc. The Taliban have brainwashed poor women and children into becoming suicide bombers because they had nowhere else to go for food, clothing, shelter, etc. Further, the Taliban, when they first came, did much to make the country safer and opened up commerce. Where they went wrong, though, is not furthering education and peace.

In today's world economic development and the West's own meddling in Muslim countries throughout the Cold War, starting with the creation of Israel, and continuing through today, has reaped the rewards and is now in a bitter cycle of bloodshed, recriminations, more bloodshed, and tears. It will only be when one side calms down and asks for peace and the other side listens will peace be realized.

I understand the Five Pillars of Islam forbid violence and preach peace and try to banish the sins of men. I understand most Muslims are peaceful and I have many Muslim friends. But to say there is ONLY one side and one side alone (like Israel and Palestine, which is multi-faceted) is wrong.

That is all I have to say on the matter. Good day. I won't be posting in this thread again.
 
Old 11-27-2009, 12:47 PM
 
Location: MSP
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What would you do if one of your family members decided to convert to Christianity oh Peaceful Man?
 
Old 11-27-2009, 12:50 PM
 
Location: MSP
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What would you do if one of your children came and told you that they were gay?

2 teens killed in Iran for being gay on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rewfio/216633009/ - broken link)

Religion of Peace indeed.
 
Old 11-27-2009, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Saudi Arabia
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What would you do if one of your family members decided to convert to Christianity oh Peaceful Man?
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What would you do if one of your children came and told you that they were gay?
2 teens killed in Iran for being gay on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rewfio/216633009/ - broken link)

iran punch of blody hatered people not all if i may say , but their govrenment is one of our enemy , and they are the cause of many inside war and problem to most of the arab world .

we don't count iran act as islam here and we don't prove it at all , and one thing " this way of killing Islam does not allow it at all , "hanging "


as i said before govrenment acts and politics does not preprest what is islam ,

and iran we call most of them " she3a " goup pretend to be muslims and seek for insdie heatnes

they are the cuase of many wars in isrea , and iraq , i'm not going through any thing of this , cause it iclude covrenment and many rubish on it ,


i'm talking about us , we are the cetizen , it's soo hard to explain islam for non muslims :s as it's seem it's very clear that non here have a clue what is Islam ,

not all arab country are muslims , not all those whom claim to be muslims are arab

india , jappan , .. reall Islam is everywhere ,

what gorvment does and what politi and terism trying to do does not represt Islam , and honsty speaking i've never seen any govrnment follow islam as it's should not even the arabs.


 
Old 11-27-2009, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Toronto, ON
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I believe that Iran's theocratic government works at giving itself a BAD reputation so that it's people remain appearing good, productive, and tolerant. The people are supposed to be respected s essentially GOOD everywhere. The U.S. at least used to think this too.
 
Old 11-27-2009, 01:44 PM
 
Location: MSP
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iran punch of blody hatered people not all if i may say , but their govrenment is one of our enemy , and they are the cause of many inside war and problem to most of the arab world .

we don't count iran act as islam here and we don't prove it at all , and one thing " this way of killing Islam does not allow it at all , "hanging "


as i said before govrenment acts and politics does not preprest what is islam ,

and iran we call most of them " she3a " goup pretend to be muslims and seek for insdie heatnes

they are the cuase of many wars in isrea , and iraq , i'm not going through any thing of this , cause it iclude covrenment and many rubish on it ,


i'm talking about us , we are the cetizen , it's soo hard to explain islam for non muslims :s as it's seem it's very clear that non here have a clue what is Islam ,

not all arab country are muslims , not all those whom claim to be muslims are arab

india , jappan , .. reall Islam is everywhere ,

what gorvment does and what politi and terism trying to do does not represt Islam , and honsty speaking i've never seen any govrnment follow islam as it's should not even the arabs.


Iran is an "Islamic Republic" since the Iranian revolution, is it not? Would you say that instead of hanging the gays, they should be stoned to death?

Are you avoiding my questions on what you would do if one of your family members converted to Christianity or told you they were gay on purpose?

Would you agree with this? The fact that they were about to kill this man in the name of religion does not seem peaceful to me.
CNN.com - Death could await Christian convert - Mar 21, 2006


I agree with you that politics is often not done in the name of religion. Just like with the US occupation of Iraq, it is the government not the Christian religion that gets their nose in everyone's business. It seems hard for Muslims on this forum to understand that as well.
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