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Old 12-27-2009, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Yeah, Islam is spreading like a virus. Hopefully a cure will be found soon.
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Old 12-28-2009, 01:33 AM
 
Location: 30-40N 90-100W
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Despite attempts to distort the image of Islam
, Islam continues to spread in the whole world, and especially in Europe and America.
Statistics have confirmed that:

The number of Muslims in the United States of America more than six million Muslims, making Islam one of the major five religions in the United States of America.
Muslim population in the world has become a 22,955%.
It is expected: that a doubling of the number of Muslims by 2015, whereas the number of non-Muslims by 5.3%.
The spokesman for the Vatican in March 2008 said that: "the number of Muslims than the number of Catholics to become the most followers of Islam in the world .. for the first time in history We are not in the summit."

In a study prepared by the French Interior Ministry that 3600 people a year convert to Islam.
The study confirmed that French Muslims are more committed by laws, and scarce the crime in their midst.
The statistics show that found 2300 mosque in, France, and 7 million Muslims , to became Islam the second religion after Christianity in France.

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You can see here:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcRxJbAHhYc

World turns to Islam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Da6n...eature=related
I'm intrigued by Muslims who basically say "You know all those paranoid fantasies you have about Islam? Well they're all true, isn't that wonderful!"

People who are strongest in their dislike of Islam, in my experience, believe it is expanding and growing in rapid leaps. That Europe is becoming Muslim and so forth. So to them what you're saying would be a bit like a person in 1936 saying the following.

"Despite attempts to distort the image of Fascism it continues to spread worldwide. In Spain we see Fascist ideologies as important in the Nationalist side of the Civil War. In Brazil the Integralist are bringing Fascism to the tropics. And of course there's Mussolini and Hitler. Studies show Fascism has reduced the rates of crime, corruption, and improved the economies of the Fascist nations. The world is turning to Fascism."

I'm not equating Islam to Fascism, but many do. Telling them "it doesn't matter what you think, Islam is growing" bolsters anti-Islamic paranoia.
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Old 12-28-2009, 02:26 AM
 
Location: South Africa
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I'm intrigued by Muslims who basically say "You know all those paranoid fantasies you have about Islam? Well they're all true, isn't that wonderful!"

People who are strongest in their dislike of Islam, in my experience, believe it is expanding and growing in rapid leaps. That Europe is becoming Muslim and so forth. So to them what you're saying would be a bit like a person in 1936 saying the following.

"Despite attempts to distort the image of Fascism it continues to spread worldwide. In Spain we see Fascist ideologies as important in the Nationalist side of the Civil War. In Brazil the Integralist are bringing Fascism to the tropics. And of course there's Mussolini and Hitler. Studies show Fascism has reduced the rates of crime, corruption, and improved the economies of the Fascist nations. The world is turning to Fascism."

I'm not equating Islam to Fascism, but many do. Telling them "it doesn't matter what you think, Islam is growing" bolsters anti-Islamic paranoia.
Well said

IMO it is just sad to see that this move of islam is like 100 years after the xian revivals which may/have not led to varying atrocities in WW2.

The European "natives" if not outbred by the migration of neo-islam folk will tire of their assertions to get their laws imported along with their beliefs will legislate against them and then if that does not work, deport them. All you need now is another hitler type person that channels his hate against the muslims then we could well see a holocaust 2.0, don't say it is not possible. It is unlikely that these muslims will ever rise to a position of controlling the economies of these countries as if it is anything like back here in SA, they do not aspire to those kind of careers and are pretty much in a family owned/culture supported businesses that do very well BTW.

In their countries of origin, the leaders who control their economies like kings, ayatollahs aka the elite controlling class are not the one leaving, it is the down and outers or run of the mill folk looking for a better life.

IMO nations that have become secular post WW2 in the EU will not be quick to embrace another religion in lieu of xianity so we are definitely entering interesting times
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Old 12-28-2009, 07:25 AM
 
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In most Islamic countries people are not allowed to convert to other religions. Even where the law allows conversions, people are harassed, and in many cases, killed. So converts practice in secret and pretend to be Muslim.

One example of this is Malaysia where all ethnic Malays are required by law to be Muslim, even if their families were Christian or some other religion for generations. How many would remain in Islam if Islamic countries allowed freedom of religion?

Where people have the choice they are moving away from Islam. See this link: Gene Expression: Mass conversions from Islam to Christianity?
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Old 12-28-2009, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Wherever women are
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Sweet.

Will we see honor killings in the road? Will we see young kids getting their arm run over because he stole a loaf of bread? Will we see men with 8 underaged wives like pedophile Muhammed did? Will all women be forced to have sex with their husbands and be covered 24/7?



Disgusting!
Theconservativevoice
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Old 01-02-2010, 07:33 AM
 
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I'm intrigued by Muslims who basically say "You know all those paranoid fantasies you have about Islam? Well they're all true, isn't that wonderful!"

People who are strongest in their dislike of Islam, in my experience, believe it is expanding and growing in rapid leaps. That Europe is becoming Muslim and so forth. So to them what you're saying would be a bit like a person in 1936 saying the following.

"Despite attempts to distort the image of Fascism it continues to spread worldwide. In Spain we see Fascist ideologies as important in the Nationalist side of the Civil War. In Brazil the Integralist are bringing Fascism to the tropics. And of course there's Mussolini and Hitler. Studies show Fascism has reduced the rates of crime, corruption, and improved the economies of the Fascist nations. The world is turning to Fascism."

I'm not equating Islam to Fascism, but many do. Telling them "it doesn't matter what you think, Islam is growing" bolsters anti-Islamic paranoia.


Sorry, Sir,
There is no comparison
Islam is a religion
It is the religion of truth




Islam does not spread but one thing
It is the religion of God

You can be sure
If you go to these sites:


http://www.thisistruth.org/


http://www.elnaggarzr.com/en/index.php

http://www.quranandscience.com/

http://kaheel7.com/eng/index.php/

http://www.islamreligion.com/category/122/

http://www.55a.net/firas/en1/ (broken link)

http://www.nooran.org/En/index.htm

http://www.science4islam.com/






http://harunyahya.com/english/

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Old 01-02-2010, 12:12 PM
 
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Sorry, Sir,
There is no comparison
Islam is a religion
It is the religion of truth
Islam does not spread but one thing
It is the religion of God
You can be sure
If you go to these sites
The comparison is more than apt . . . and Islam is BREEDING in Europe and America . . . NOT spreading . . . average 8 offspring to a family versus 1.5. It uses the cover of Christian principles that it plagiarized to whitewash the evil intent and ambitions of its founder, Muhammad . . . who perverted and corrupted Islam to his goal of world conquest and submission of ALL to Allah.
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Old 01-06-2010, 02:57 AM
 
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Originally Posted by noranyyat View Post
Despite attempts to distort the image of Islam
, Islam continues to spread in the whole world, and especially in Europe and America.
Statistics have confirmed that:

• The number of Muslims in the United States of America more than six million Muslims, making Islam one of the major five religions in the United States of America.
• Muslim population in the world has become a 22,955%.
• It is expected: that a doubling of the number of Muslims by 2015, whereas the number of non-Muslims by 5.3%.
• The spokesman for the Vatican in March 2008 said that: "the number of Muslims than the number of Catholics to become the most followers of Islam in the world .. for the first time in history We are not in the summit."

• In a study prepared by the French Interior Ministry that 3600 people a year convert to Islam.
• The study confirmed that French Muslims are more committed by laws, and scarce the crime in their midst.
• The statistics show that found 2300 mosque in, France, and 7 million Muslims , to became Islam the second religion after Christianity in France.




Do you like surprises?
You can see here:




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcRxJbAHhYc


World turns to Islam


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Da6n...eature=related







It's true that Islam is spreading throughout the world, yet it is equally true that Jesus Christ is appearing to Muslims who seek the real God. And God is not impressed with big numbers, and that is why the world perished, and only eight were saved in the Ark of Noah.

http://video.google.com/googleplayer...86242029&hl=en
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Old 01-06-2010, 08:40 AM
 
Location: 30-40N 90-100W
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Sorry, Sir,
There is no comparison
Islam is a religion
It is the religion of truth
I was not actually comparing Islam to Fascism, I'm not one of those kinds of people. I also feel queasy with comparisons of it to a virus. It has many values I deem positive on charity and prayer.

That being said I am not a Muslim and I am not interested in becoming one. The growth of Islam is also mostly due to birth rates and conversion in certain kinds of cultures. (Often polygamous and pretty much always city-building) Islam has generally done poorly in societies that are less organized or strictly monogamous. It's a creation of a man who ran a town. When it came up against stateless societies, like the Igbo, its ability to convert was almost non-existent.

Granted there are cultures resistant to Christianity as well. Polygamous societies tended to be resistant. Although certain forms of African-Initiated Christianity allow polygamy so this might change. Also Christian belief in original sin is sometimes a disadvantage in societies with high infant mortality rates.

Still on the whole I'd say Pentecostalism is what's really going to grow through conversion. Islam's ability to convert Latin Americans seems to be fairly minimal. They are not polygamous and infant mortality rates are in decline. However Pentecostalism is growing in that region. I am saying this dispassionately because I am not particularly happy by the growth of Pentecostalism in the world. A visiting priest almost seemed to prefer Muslims as at least you honor Mary and don't seem obsessed on Catholics as particularly wicked. Still the statistics are what they are and I can't change them.
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Old 01-06-2010, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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It is the religion of truth
And it is the "religion of truth" why? Because it claims to be? You're not winning any cases with that circular logic.
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