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Old 03-19-2010, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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As I told you, this is some wrong act which I reject; and it is the misinterpretation of the aya 4: 24


This is in the Quran 4: 23-24
حُرِّمَتْ عَلَيْكُمْ أُمَّهَاتُكُمْ وَبَنَاتُكُمْ وَأَخَوَاتُكُمْ وَعَمَّاتُكُمْ وَخَالاَتُكُمْ وَبَنَاتُ الأَخِ وَبَنَاتُ الأُخْتِ وَأُمَّهَاتُكُمُ اللاَّتِي أَرْضَعْنَكُمْ وَأَخَوَاتُكُم مِّنَ الرَّضَاعَةِ وَأُمَّهَاتُ نِسَآئِكُمْ وَرَبَائِبُكُمُ اللاَّتِي فِي حُجُورِكُم مِّن نِّسَآئِكُمُ اللاَّتِي دَخَلْتُم بِهِنَّ فَإِن لَّمْ تَكُونُواْ دَخَلْتُم بِهِنَّ فَلاَ جُنَاحَ عَلَيْكُمْ وَحَلاَئِلُ أَبْنَائِكُمُ الَّذِينَ مِنْ أَصْلاَبِكُمْ وَأَن تَجْمَعُواْ بَيْنَ الأُخْتَيْنِ إَلاَّ مَا قَدْ سَلَفَ إِنَّ اللّهَ كَانَ غَفُورًا رَّحِيمًا . وَالْمُحْصَنَاتُ مِنَ النِّسَاء إِلاَّ مَا مَلَكَتْ أَيْمَانُكُمْ كِتَابَ اللّهِ عَلَيْكُمْ
وَأُحِلَّ لَكُم مَّا وَرَاء ذَلِكُمْ أَن تَبْتَغُواْ بِأَمْوَالِكُم مُّحْصِنِينَ غَيْرَ مُسَافِحِينَ فَمَا اسْتَمْتَعْتُم بِهِ مِنْهُنَّ فَآتُوهُنَّ أُجُورَهُنَّ فَرِيضَةً وَلاَ جُنَاحَ عَلَيْكُمْ فِيمَا تَرَاضَيْتُم بِهِ مِن بَعْدِ الْفَرِيضَةِ إِنَّ اللّهَ كَانَ عَلِيمًا حَكِيمًا

The explanation:
(Prohibited to you [for marriage] are:

>> your mothers,

>> daughters,

>> sisters;

>> father's sisters,

>> mother's sisters;

>> brother's daughters,

>> sister's daughters;

>> foster-mothers who gave you suck,

>> foster-sisters;

>> mothers of your wives;

>> your step-daughters under your guardianship, born of your wives to whom you have gone in, no prohibition if you have not gone in;

>> [those who have been] wives of your sons proceeding from your loins;

>> and two sisters in wedlock at one and the same time,

except for what is past; for God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

>> Also [prohibited are] women already married,

except those [female war-prisoners] whom your right hands possess:

thus has God commanded you.


Lawful to you in marriage are:
all [women] other than those mentioned, so that you seek them [in marriage] with your wealth [by giving them the dower] in honest wedlock, not fornicating.

And those with whom you seek enjoyment by it [by marrying them], give to them their dowers as an obligation.

And there is no blame on you in what you do by mutual agreement [concerning the dower] after the obligation [has been stated.]

Surely, God is All-Knowing, Most Wise.)



So by misinterpreting this aya and fabricating some traditions this act has been made by some Muslims with their ignorance.

Quran Interpretation
Thanks for the link...I found the part on "Retorting the atheist" particularly funny and entertaining, not withstanding the fact that it is full of lies.

Retorting the Atheist
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Old 03-19-2010, 11:22 AM
 
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Thanks for the link...I found the part on "Retorting the atheist" particularly funny and entertaining, not withstanding the fact that it is full of lies.

Retorting the Atheist

Some people are the remnants of the pre-Islam paganism: the worshippers of planets and stars, particularly the Jady star; such people are liars, magicians and full of rancor. The liar in fact is the atheist and the disbeliever.
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Old 03-19-2010, 11:29 AM
 
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Whoa...let's be careful who we call LIARS.

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This can't possibly mean what I think it means.
Yep yep yep.

My doctor has no idea how much my blood pressure has suffered JUST from this one thread.

Luckily, there are some Muslims who continue to fight for gender equality in the Muslim world:

The rights of Muslim Women | International Humanist and Ethical Union
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Old 03-19-2010, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Some people are the remnants of the pre-Islam paganism: the worshippers of planets and stars, particularly the Jady star; such people are liars, magicians and full of rancor. The liar in fact is the atheist and the disbeliever.
I reject your mythology and substitute my reality....To deny that which is obvious as that site does, may not be entirely lies, but it is certainly massive ignorance.
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Old 03-19-2010, 11:36 AM
 
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Thanks for the link...I found the part on "Retorting the atheist" particularly funny and entertaining, not withstanding the fact that it is full of lies.

Retorting the Atheist
Holy crap! that's the islamic version of AIG. Why do people believe in this tripe? UGH
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Old 03-19-2010, 11:52 AM
 
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Holy crap! that's the islamic version of AIG. Why do people believe in this tripe? UGH
Smack your face again and again; the crap and tripe is the word of the atheist.
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Old 03-19-2010, 11:55 AM
 
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I reject your mythology and substitute my reality....To deny that which is obvious as that site does, may not be entirely lies, but it is certainly massive ignorance.

In reality I reject your atheism and ignorance.

I shall expose the atheist and the atheism in addition to the idolatry and associating others with God in the worshipping.
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Old 03-19-2010, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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In reality I reject your atheism and ignorance.

I shall expose the atheist and the atheism in addition to the idolatry and associating others with God in the worshipping.
Well you are not going to win friends and influence people with that attitude I'm afraid, nor will you win many debates by calling whole groups of people (atheists) ignorant, and other groups (Christians and other beliefs) worshipers of false gods.
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Old 03-19-2010, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Pawnee Nation
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In reality I reject your atheism and ignorance.
That's ok, we reject your god, your violence, your ignorance, and your smugness.

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I shall expose the atheist and the atheism in addition to the idolatry and associating others with God in the worshipping.
You've already exposed the failure and the lies of Islam for us to see.
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Old 03-19-2010, 06:09 PM
 
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Smack your face again and again; the crap and tripe is the word of the atheist.
It's understandable that you'd hate atheists because they don't buy into the lies spread by Islam but it just makes you look foolish. We are not the ones spreading lies, we are not the ones going around and beating our wifes while calling it "tapping" and we are not the ones who would condone something like the little gem on post 88.
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