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Old 07-04-2011, 02:55 PM
 
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When you touch someone in a manner to correct them you are treating them as a child and it is a humiliation.

You cannot know what a woman feels when she is treated in such a way because you are a man.

All I see is humiliation and degradation and muslims in support of such behavior.

You being a Jewish female means you are ripe for having your husband and father killed so you can be taken in and sold as one of Muhammad's sex slaves. That's what Islam is all about.
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Old 07-04-2011, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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a light tap is always ok.
Could it be time to open up a new sub forum for those who like smacking/light tapping women around?
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Old 07-04-2011, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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You being a Jewish female means you are ripe for having your husband and father killed so you can be taken in and sold as one of Muhammad's sex slaves. That's what Islam is all about.
You go too far with your insults...At least stick to the truth.
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Old 07-04-2011, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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The purpose behind this is not to hurt or humiliate the woman,
rather it is intended to make her realize that she has transgressed against her husband’s rights, and that her husband has the right to set her straight and discipline her.


in other word to wake her up.

and rescue the marriage and the family and the house.

usualy when a husband hates his wife then he would leave her

but see what the Quran says regarding such case
“and live with them honourably. If you dislike them, it may be that you dislike a thing and Allaah brings through it a great deal of good” The Noble Quran.
what can you understand from the above verse. ?
what i understand is even if the husband hates his wife the Quran advise him not leave her
and he will be rewarded with a great deal of good.

can you see now how the Quran aim to rescue the family.



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Why do I see nothing mentioned about the husband getting "light taps" from the wife when he misbehaves? It's not always the wife's fault when things go sour....Can the wife beat on the husband when he's a bad boy? This may be off topic, but I have heard that the Muslim wife must obey the husband in all things including sex...Has the wife no right of refusal? If not, in most of the world that is considered rape.
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Old 07-04-2011, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Saudi Arabia
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I really don't care if it is a light tap or no tap at all. Just the idea that women can be disciplined by their husbands indicates that women are considered of less value than men...That idea is repulsive to me and belongs in the past.


never. in Islam women are not less valued than men, even a man should be disciplined in his treat towards wife Otherwise she will never live with him. so I ask you, who is a leader in your house, you or your wife?

So that Presence a leader in all affairs of life, does not mean that others is less value than him\her,the Qur'an gives men the degree of leadership, this does not mean that men should dominate women, they should deal with them in kindness, mercy, and love then they are disciplined by Condition Otherwise she will leave his or choose to divorce him

I see you are picking up woodrow's habit of deflection


I see it good

There are criminals in every society, and when caught are prosecuted...That is not the same as a religion that allows and teaches that women are worth less than men.
a religion never allows or teaches that women are worth less than men

how is that and the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) said, “ Paradise is at the feet of the mother.”


not men
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Old 07-04-2011, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Saudi Arabia
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You being a Jewish female means you are ripe for having your husband and father killed so you can be taken in and sold as one of Muhammad's sex slaves. That's what Islam is all about.

do not know that Judaism, Christianity was traded by slaves before Islam, Islam came and the Jews and the Christians were sold the slaves and treat them harsher treatment


you need to Educate yourself about these religions




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That's what Islam is all about


just in your Dark mind
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Old 07-04-2011, 04:36 PM
 
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do not know that Judaism, Christianity was traded by slaves before Islam, Islam came and the Jews and the Christians were sold the slaves and treat them harsher treatment


you need to Educate yourself about these religions








just in your Dark mind

Arabs and the slave trade:

Arab slave trade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Arab slave trade was the practice of slavery in the Arab World, mainly Western Asia, North Africa, East Africa and certain parts of Europe (such as Iberia and southern Italy) during their period of domination by Arab leaders. The trade was focused on the slave markets of the Middle East and North Africa. People traded were not limited to a certain color, ethnicity, or religion and included Arabs and Berbers, especially in its early days.



Sub-Saharan Africa: Slavery
The Slave Trade in East Africa & The Sahara

East Africa and The Sahara:
Before the 1500s, the majority of slaves taken from Africa were moved from East Africa to the Arabian mainland. Arab slave traders as opposed to European traders preferred to carry out raiding sorties, often travelling far into Africa

The African Holocaust—The Slave Trade

In evaluating the African slave trade, there was another "Middle Passage" often neglected by most scholars—the Arab slave trade. It is often forgotten that the Arab slave trade in East Africa and the slave trade from North Africa into Inner West Africa was protracted and ruthless. Sometimes the Arabs from the north who were Moslem enslaved Africans in the south who were also Moslems, thereby violating one of the most basic customs of their faith—that no Moslem should enslave another Moslem.

Slavery in Islam

Muslims were enslaving black Africans long before any slave ships sailed for the New World. Muslims were taking and making slaves all over the lands they had conquered. Later, when slave ships were loaded with black slaves, often, a Muslim slave broker had the human cargo all ready to go. American slavers rarely had to go into inland to capture slaves, they were already waiting there, courtesy of some Muslim ruler, and/or slave broker! In many cases, if the black slaves were not sent to the New World, they were sent to the Mideast to be enslaved by Arabs, or kept by other black Muslims as slaves.



Slavery was a holocaust and Jews, Christians and Muslims are guilty. Instead of pointing a finger and saying others are more guilty you might acknowledge the Arab part in it along side of the Jews and Christian people. It is something we all share guilt in.
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Old 07-04-2011, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Saudi Arabia
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You being a Jewish female means you are ripe for having your husband and father killed so you can be taken in and sold as one of Muhammad's sex slaves. That's what Islam is all about.

Oh, excuse me, I went to your profile

mmm, you are Christian

Did not know that when you are a Christian or a Jew should not be critical of Islam ?

do you want me to bring you a Violence in the Christian? so Do not know about the slave trade and tortured them by the Jews and the Christians before Islam then came islam and ride them of this persecution
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Old 07-05-2011, 12:51 AM
 
Location: egypt
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Arabs and the slave trade:

Arab slave trade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Arab slave trade was the practice of slavery in the Arab World, mainly Western Asia, North Africa, East Africa and certain parts of Europe (such as Iberia and southern Italy) during their period of domination by Arab leaders. The trade was focused on the slave markets of the Middle East and North Africa. People traded were not limited to a certain color, ethnicity, or religion and included Arabs and Berbers, especially in its early days.
we all know that islam came in the time when trade slavery were rooted practice in arab world

so what is your point ?

if you wanna to find a relation between slavery and islam then i suggest to you reading this link , this link is suggested by your link in the top of the site
Islamic views on slavery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Islamic prophet Muhammad encouraged manumission of slaves, even if one had to purchase them first. On many occasions, Muhammad's companions, at his direction, freed slaves in abundance. Muhammad personally freed 63 slaves, and his wife Aisha freed 67.[32] In total his household and friends freed 39,237 slaves
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Old 07-05-2011, 06:24 AM
 
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we all know that islam came in the time when trade slavery were rooted practice in arab world

so what is your point ?

if you wanna to find a relation between slavery and islam then i suggest to you reading this link , this link is suggested by your link in the top of the site
Islamic views on slavery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Islamic prophet Muhammad encouraged manumission of slaves, even if one had to purchase them first. On many occasions, Muhammad's companions, at his direction, freed slaves in abundance. Muhammad personally freed 63 slaves, and his wife Aisha freed 67.[32] In total his household and friends freed 39,237 slaves
My point is that Muslims, Christians, Jews and white Europeans and Arabs took part in the slave trade. Maybe you ought to read my links.
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