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Old 01-21-2010, 08:15 PM
 
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You cannot believe anything a Muslim tells you about Islam and Allah or Muslim society because they are COMMANDED by Allah to deceive the infidels in any way possible to promote the cause of Allah and Jihad (Dar al-Harb), period.

this is one hundred percent true. personally when I see a collective repudiation by moslems of the never ending barbarous acts committed by moslems in the name of the sumarian moon god they worship I might consider taking them at their words.
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Old 01-22-2010, 04:27 AM
 
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You cannot believe anything a Muslim tells you about Islam and Allah or Muslim society because they are COMMANDED by Allah to deceive the infidels in any way possible to promote the cause of Allah and Jihad (Dar al-Harb), period.
You're not making any sense, this is like me saying i cant believe you because you are commanded Jesus to defend your religion.
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Old 01-22-2010, 10:23 AM
 
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You're not making any sense, this is like me saying i cant believe you because you are commanded Jesus to defend your religion.
Nonsense . . . there is no similar commandment in Christianity. There is no separation of religion and state in Islam. The state of war (Dar al-Harb) exists because Israel exists. That makes it mandatory for all Muslims to aid global jihad by deceiving the infidels in any way possible. They ALL get credit with Allah for any overt acts of terrorism against the infidels by any jihadi. As long as this war exists . . . they are untrustworthy sources of information about Islam and its goals.
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Old 01-22-2010, 10:28 AM
 
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Old 01-22-2010, 10:56 AM
 
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You cannot believe anything a Muslim tells you about Islam and Allah or Muslim society because they are COMMANDED by Allah to deceive the infidels in any way possible to promote the cause of Allah and Jihad (Dar al-Harb), period.
Absolutely true I'm afraid. Those who profess to interpret the Qu'Ran as a peaceful text are either deluded by their mosque leaders, are hiding their true feelings towards those who perpetrated The Crusades on them a few years back, or are simply "Sheeple" enough to not want to stand up for what's obviously moral and right. Else, how can the radical element exist, protected, in North American mosque congregations without their peers turning them in?

I just can't see the local Presbyterian elders sitting by and calmly listening to some kook suggesting, in whispered tones, that maybe some of them could help him out when he goes to bomb a US. Government office next week. Or then, after it happens, not turn him in. Or, better yet, be captured by CNN gleefully dancing in the streets after 9/11. Wow!

And yet....

It's orchestrated evil for the peasant masses, IMHO.
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Old 01-22-2010, 11:53 AM
 
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Well what I get from the muslim apologetics is that it's actually ok to beat women as long as you call it "disciplining" instead of "beating". You can also go nuts as long as you don't leave a visible mark though that can't be very hard if your wife wears a burqa.

Men who even raise a finger towards women are scum.
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Old 01-22-2010, 01:41 PM
 
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Im not trying to influence anyone nor make friends, but you still need to be more open minded when you deal with people from different backgrounds, but at least i know how you're culture/tradition work and how ours does. Which makes it easier for me to communicate with you guys, but unfortunately every once in a while, i have to face someone ignorant who bases his/her info off the media.
I have had enough of political correctness. I have lived in and had good relations with many cultures over the years. Relations have always been fun and cordial. But, I have never had the problems I do with you muslim apologists. You whine and complain that no one understands your culture or don't get a fair break in the media. However, do you denounce the evil the radicals do? No, you don't.
The world media does a pretty good job of ferreting out the problems the muslim culture has. In fact, they probably don't report aggressively enough.

So, before you catergorize someone as ignorant you need need to examine your own views. Living in the 7th century is the problem.

And, if you can't see the huge negatives of the muslim culture then you are blind.
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Old 01-22-2010, 02:53 PM
 
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Im not trying to influence anyone nor make friends, but you still need to be more open minded when you deal with people from different backgrounds, but at least i know how you're culture/tradition work and how ours does. Which makes it easier for me to communicate with you guys, but unfortunately every once in a while, i have to face someone ignorant who bases his/her info off the media.
the ignorant ones are those that maintain this view quoted and it is a common enough trait in moslem people. ignorance seems to be your stock in trade. deceit is the vehicle by which moslems operate. I don't believe anything any moslem says.
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Old 01-23-2010, 10:25 AM
 
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Nonsense . . . there is no similar commandment in Christianity. There is no separation of religion and state in Islam. The state of war (Dar al-Harb) exists because Israel exists. That makes it mandatory for all Muslims to aid global jihad by deceiving the infidels in any way possible. They ALL get credit with Allah for any overt acts of terrorism against the infidels by any jihadi. As long as this war exists . . . they are untrustworthy sources of information about Islam and its goals.
Islam dosen't support terrorism, but its permissible to defend your country if the invaders invade your country by force and act hostile towards the locals.
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Old 01-23-2010, 10:33 AM
 
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I have had enough of political correctness. I have lived in and had good relations with many cultures over the years. Relations have always been fun and cordial. But, I have never had the problems I do with you muslim apologists. You whine and complain that no one understands your culture or don't get a fair break in the media. However, do you denounce the evil the radicals do? No, you don't.
The world media does a pretty good job of ferreting out the problems the muslim culture has. In fact, they probably don't report aggressively enough.

So, before you catergorize someone as ignorant you need need to examine your own views. Living in the 7th century is the problem.

And, if you can't see the huge negatives of the muslim culture then you are blind.
Dean Trails, just keep in mind that i lived in the middle east and North America, so im not blind, im thankful that i learned a lot of things, so i know how how your culture/traditions work, and how ours does, so i know how to balance them and respect both of them because both of them are valuable, but as for you, you wouldn't know as much because you haven't lived in the middle east, so the diffrence bettween me and you is huge.
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