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Old 02-15-2010, 10:51 AM
 
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it is very difficult to live with someone you hate. Especially if this one is the wife.

When the husband start to hate his wife for a reason or another then usually the normal Consequences for this hate is the divorce even if the wife loves him.

One of the most big achievement for Satan against human is to have the husband and the wife to get divorce.

See what the Quran say when the husband hates his wife

{O you who believe! it is not lawful for you that you should take women as heritage against [their] will, and do not straiten them in order that you may take part of what you have given them, unless they are guilty of manifest indecency, and treat them kindly; then if you hate them, it may be that you dislike a thing while Allah has placed abundant good in it.} 4:19

What is your interpretation for the above verse?

 
Old 02-15-2010, 10:56 AM
 
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That even a god understands, "Can't live with 'em, can't live without 'em."
 
Old 02-15-2010, 11:46 AM
 
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One of the most big achievement for Satan against human is to have the husband and the wife to get divorce.

Since the Quran not only accepts divorce but lays out the rules and procedures for obtaining one, I find it difficult to understand why Allah would find this to be a "big achievement" for Satan.
 
Old 02-18-2010, 09:56 AM
 
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Since the Quran not only accepts divorce but lays out the rules and procedures for obtaining one, I find it difficult to understand why Allah would find this to be a "big achievement" for Satan.
The divorce is twice, after that, either you retain her on reasonable terms or release her with kindness. And it is not lawful for you (men) to take back (from your wives) any of your Mahr (bridal-money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage) which you have given them, except when both parties fear that they would be unable to keep the limits ordained by Allaah (e.g. to deal with each other on a fair basis). Then if you fear that they would not be able to keep the limits ordained by Allaah, then there is no sin on either of them if she gives back (the Mahr or a part of it) for her Al-Khul‘ (divorce). These are the limits ordained by Allaah, so do not transgress them. And whoever transgresses the limits ordained by Allaah, then such are the Zaalimoon (wrongdoers)” [al-Baqarah 2:229] .



there are some odd cases where divorce or separation is considered a mercy

here is one case

My husband and i been married for the last 11 years and we could not have childrens due to my husband who had.......Islam Question and Answer - Ruling on asking for a divorce from a husband who has some medical problems

and another
Islam Question and Answer - Examples of acceptable reasons for asking one’s husband for khula’
 
Old 02-18-2010, 10:00 AM
 
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What, Muslims don't adopt children??

Divorce for lack of children has always seemed a pretty petty reason (JMHO), regardless of which religion the couple follows.
 
Old 02-19-2010, 04:20 AM
 
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Humans are born with only the natural love, which is fallible. Anytime we are not loving another, we are not loving ourselves. In order to overcome the material hardships we must strive to Love no matter what happens to us from another. Divorcing only masks the problems and can carry over into the next marriage or relationship. To overcome this, we must find out whay we act in such an unloving way and correct it. Most people think the divorce fixes it and then end up in several broken relationships. In order to fix the problems, we must fix the heart so that it can learn to love unconditionally.
 
Old 02-19-2010, 04:33 AM
 
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and another
[URL="http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/1859"
Islam Question and Answer - Examples of acceptable reasons for asking one’s husband for khula’[/url]
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Praise be to Allaah.
I put this question to our Shaykh ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Abd al-Rahmaan ibn Jibreen, and he answered as follows:
[LEFT]If a woman dislikes her husband’s treatment of her – for example, he is over-strict, hot-tempered or easily-provoked, or gets angry a lot, or criticizes her and rebukes her for the slightest mistake or shortcoming, then she has the right of khula’ [female-instigated divorce].[/LEFT]
[LEFT]If she dislikes his physical appearance because of some deformity or ugliness, or because one of his faculties is missing, she has the right of khula’.[/LEFT]
[LEFT]If he is lacking in religious commitment – for example, he doesn’t pray, or neglects to pray in jamaa’ah, or does not fast in Ramadaan without a proper excuse, or he goes to parties where haraam things are done, such as fornication, drinking alcohol and listening to singing and musical instruments, etc. – she has the right of khula’.[/LEFT]
[LEFT]If he deprives of her of her rights of spending on her maintenance, clothing and other essential needs, when he is able to provide these things, then she has the right to ask for khula’.[/LEFT]
[LEFT]If he does not give her her conjugal rights and thus keep her chaste because he is impotent (i.e. unable to have intercourse), or because he does not like her, or he prefers someone else, or he is unfair in the division of his time [i.e., among co-wives], then she has the right to ask for khula’.[/LEFT]
And Allaah knows best.
Other than the "does not fast", this fatwa seems to sum up the reason for almost every single divorce ever taken place.

Fair division of time between co-wives must be tough to do.
 
Old 02-19-2010, 09:39 AM
 
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A few children have been found that have had almost no contact with other people, and these children were not born with love and actually were more akin to wild animals. Love is a social construct and varies with societies. Love in one of many constructs that we are domesticated with in order to gain entrance to our social system. A history of such a thing would probably show this. Luhmann did a history of romance and that has changed through time and has been adapted to various societies and prevailing notions. Love is not a power or category that is transcendent to the human condition but a fabrication based and constructed on of some "emotional" presence within us. It is an interpretation of a condition and then the interpretation becomes a category and then takes on a life of its own.
 
Old 02-20-2010, 01:30 PM
 
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What, Muslims don't adopt children??

Divorce for lack of children has always seemed a pretty petty reason (JMHO), regardless of which religion the couple follows.
in islam he does not need to divorce his wife in order to marry another one
and this is one of the wisdoms for allowing more than one wife
 
Old 02-20-2010, 01:42 PM
 
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in islam he does not need to divorce his wife in order to marry another one
and this is one of the wisdoms for allowing more than one wife
'Wisdom', eh?

Sounds more like perversion and misogyny.
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