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Old 04-21-2010, 03:29 PM
 
Location: egypt
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No you don't feel sorry for me, but i do hope you find the truth before you commit a horrible sin against God in jihad .

All the killing from all of us needs to stop ! But it won't until the Creator rules over us we will continue to do what we do best and thats kill each other .

You don't have the answer and I don't either .

To enjoy the act of slowly cutting another humans head off or hacking up little girls is not of the God I want to worship .
peace to you
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Old 04-27-2014, 09:48 PM
 
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If the Muslim religion started somewhere in the early 600's AD, my question always has been, what was God Allah doing the rest of the time that the earth had been around?

It just never made a lot fo sense to me how a religion started so late caught on thats all.
Funny question, it has been said that their were over 124000 prophets sent to mankind.

All with the same message, of the belief in one God. The final and complete message coming around 1400 years ago.
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Old 04-27-2014, 09:57 PM
 
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I have some study on islam, and it seems to me the radicals are the ones who go by the book, not the moderates . But I'm not totally sure thats why i ask .

Most will tell you that the verses that call for violence are for war or just a verbal phrase not to be taken literily .
The people who are radical do NOT go by the book. They claim to.

If you want to understand the Quran, read Rumi his Mathnawi, which as he states, is the Roots of the Roots of the Roots of the Islamic religion.
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Old 04-27-2014, 10:19 PM
 
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But for 600 years people had believed that Jesus died on the cross. Why did Allah wait so long before correcting them, and then told only one obscure man, far away?
You can't look at God's decisions with the perspective of what you would do in that situation, lol you are hilarious!

What is the need to correct people? If they believe that Jesus died on the cross, and they were sincere in their intentions, that is the main thing, they will be pardoned because they were sincere.

About God telling one "obscure" man, isn't that the method of God's revelation? lol

"Far-away?" , were you expecting someone from your home-town?

Cmon guys, if you are really sincere in learning about religion, get into it and do some serious reading.
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Old 04-27-2014, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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Muslim women go through hell on earth and will go through hell in paradise if they have to share one man with 72 others , what is their reward for being a good muslim ? Living eternity in sexaul frrustration while the men have orges ? Or will they all be lesbians .
One of the biggest misconceptions non-Muslims and even some Muslims believe. No place in the Qur'an does it say we will get 72 virgins in heaven We do know heaven is beyond description but to compare it in human terms what we are told we will get in heaven is:

From surah 56

1. When the Event (i.e. the Day of Resurrection) befalls.2. And there can be no denying of its befalling.
3. It will bring low (some); (and others) it will exalt;
4. When the earth will be shaken with a terrible shake.
5. And the mountains will be powdered to dust.
6. So that they will become floating dust particles.
7. And you (all) will be in three kinds (i.e. separate groups).
8. So those on the Right Hand (i.e. those who will be given their Records in their right hands), Who will be those on the Right Hand? (As a respect for them, because they will enter Paradise).
9. And those on the Left Hand (i.e. those who will be given their Record in their left hands), Who will be those on the Left Hand? (As a disgrace for them, because they will enter Hell).
10. And those foremost [(in Islamic Faith of Monotheism and in performing righteous deeds) in the life of this world on the very first call for to embrace Islam,] will be foremost (in Paradise).
11. These will be those nearest to Allah.
12. In the Gardens of delight (Paradise).
13. A multitude of those (foremost) will be from the first generations (who embraced Islam).
14. And a few of those (foremost) will be from the later time (generations).
15. (They will be) on thrones woven with gold and precious stones,
16. Reclining thereon, face to face.
17. They will be served by immortal boys,
18. With cups, and jugs, and a glass from the flowing wine,
19. Wherefrom they will get neither any aching of the head, nor any intoxication.
20. And fruit; that they may choose.
21. And the flesh of fowls that they desire.
22. And (there will be) Houris (fair females) with wide, lovely eyes (as wives for the pious),
23. Like unto preserved pearls.
24. A reward for what they used to do.
25. No Laghw (dirty, false, evil vain talk) will they hear therein, nor any sinful speech (like backbiting, etc.).
26. But only the saying of: Salam!, Salam! (greetings with peace) !
27. And those on the Right Hand, - Who will be those on the Right Hand?
28. (They will be) among thornless lote-trees,
29. Among Talh (banana-trees) with fruits piled one above another,
30. In shade long-extended,
31. By water flowing constantly,
32. And fruit in plenty,
33. Whose season is not limited, and their supply will not be cut off,
34. And on couches or thrones, raised high.
35. Verily, We have created them (maidens) of special creation.
36. And made them virgins.
37. Loving (their husbands only), equal in age.
38. For those on the Right Hand.
39. A multitude of those (on the Right Hand) will be from the first generation (who embraced Islam).
40. And a multitude of those (on the Right Hand) will be from the later times (generations).


Basically what we know what we will find in heaven is Peace, comfort, companionship and peaceful eternity with no unfilled needs. No evil thoughts or deeds. Pure pious bliss and comfort. All beyond human comprehension


Virgins are mentioned twice in the Qur'an




Al-Waqi'a (The Event)

56:36 (Asad) having resurrected them as Virgins, [14]

At-Tahrem (The Banning)

66:5 (Asad) [O wives of the Prophet!] Were he to divorce [any of] you, God might well give him in your stead spouses better than you - women who surrender themselves unto God, who truly believe, devoutly obey His will, turn [unto Him] in repentance [whenever they have sinned] worship [Him alone] and go on and on [seeking His goodly acceptance] [9] - be they women previously married or Virgins. [10]
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